All things offseason

deep9er · Mar 21, 2020

poewelch84 said:
1st round maybe 2nd if they move back. They don't pick again until the 5th. The offense was much better once they traded for Sanders.

"1st round" could mean either 13th or 31st, which one?

No doubt the offense needed Sanders and i also feel we now need to draft one of these WR's. We may not draft the very top prospects, but there are other quality WR's.

To get another 2nd rounder its more likely we trade back with the 13th. Not saying it needs to be the 13th, but more likely.

poewelch84 · Mar 22, 2020

deep9er said:
"1st round" could mean either 13th or 31st, which one?

No doubt the offense needed Sanders and i also feel we now need to draft one of these WR's. We may not draft the very top prospects, but there are other quality WR's.

To get another 2nd rounder its more likely we trade back with the 13th. Not saying it needs to be the 13th, but more likely.

It really depends on who is available when that they are picking at 13 and how quickly the top WR's are going off the board. This is where not being able to interview or work with current players could hurt because they might have a better idea about guys like Taylor or Hurd if they could or maybe other WR's that will be around later. Honestly I'm ok with trading the 31st for a mid to late 2nd and another or future pick and taking a WR in the 2nd round.

deep9er · Mar 25, 2020

This is Emmanual Sanders on JG:

"People could say whatever they want about the guy, but he's a winner. You go and check out his win percentage, his win percentage is high, and that's no mistake. That has a lot to do with him, his leadership, and his work ethic."

Sanders was impressed with Garoppolo's ability to look past in-game mistakes, put them behind him, and keep going.

Sanders added: "You take a guy like that, who hasn't had that much NFL experience in terms of playing in games, and you give him a couple of years of keep working on his game, and loving the game how he loves it, I feel like a lot of people might take back the words that they are saying about him because as of right now, he's a proven winner."

Garoppolo completed 69.1 percent of his pass attempts for 3,978 yards with 27 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, and a passer rating of 102.0 in 2019. He led the 49ers to a 13-3 record, a division championship, home-field advantage in the playoffs, and then the Super Bowl."

Sanders is saying this was JG's first full season and he still did well. Also, that JG has a lot of intangibles.

IMO with more experience his INT stat will go lower. Not expecting his other stats to "explode" because we're still going to run. But his INT's should go down.

I really like the 69.1 percent completion stat.

deep9er · Mar 29, 2020

https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/202...***********&utm_medium=dt&utm_campaign=affref

Interesting thought.

Yeah i guess there would be a LITTLE bit of an advantage, over "rebuilding" teams. But wouldn't other play-off teams be in similar situations?

deep9er · Mar 31, 2020

https://www.************.com/articl...doubt-surrounding-garoppolo-long-term-answer/

Ok, i have to admit this has a little merit to it, especially thinking of the SB. If you're in the media's seat, yeah i guess that's the perception you'd take. Thats fine because no matter how JG is viewed now - good or bad - it is still gonna be "what have you done for me lately?". He could be thought of same as Brady, but when the season starts that wouldn't matter either.

Anyway, i think the bigger reason we ran so much last SEASON, is the same reason i believe in.....unless the opponent can stop your run game, keep running. Running is safer not only for ball protection but in preventing injuries to the QB and O-line. It didn't keep us from scoring a lot of points last season, we actually scored more points than KC (regular season).

IF this "taints' the image or perception of JG, so be it, as long as we win.

Ricky Roma · Apr 1, 2020

Bucky Brooks? :rolleyes:

Dude the other week was thinking about Cam Newton in SF as well. And the week before it was Tom Brady. And the week before it was.....

deep9er · Apr 1, 2020

Ricky Roma said:
Bucky Brooks?

Dude the other week was thinking about Cam Newton in SF as well. And the week before it was Tom Brady. And the week before it was.....

Don't know much about this writer but Cam Newton to SF doesn't make sense to me either.

Ricky Roma · Apr 1, 2020

Former scout, who for some reason has jumped on the anti-Garoppolo train ride. It's pretty weak shit that guys like Florio and Stephen A. Smith had bee routinely barking about for months. Bucky is the most 'legit' of the group, but his take on this is lame.

deep9er · Apr 2, 2020

NFC West Betting Preview: 49ers still the favorite, Cardinals' odds make them an interesting sleeper

At this point all of this seems, all of this is reasonable to me. While the 49ers aren't likely to win 13 games, the other West teams have their own weaknesses, or issues. I really like Arizona now but without a decent defense, it is too hard over an entire season.

For me the biggest obstacle to the 49ers will be the SB 'hangover', ie more internal than external. Yes, we do have a tough schedule (external) but that's why i think 10 wins is reasonable, not 13 again.

As is the case every season, it starts with beating the other West teams.

deep9er · Apr 7, 2020

That's because, for as many tough decisions as the Niners had this offseason, things are going to get more difficult. While the 49ers will have a lot more cap space to work with next offseason, they're slated to have many key players in need of contract extensions.

Among the starters or major contributors scheduled to be unrestricted free agents after next season are tight end George Kittle, running backs Tevin Coleman and Matt Breida, fullback Kyle Juszczyk, receivers Kendrick Bourne and Trent Taylor, defensive linemen D.J. Jones and Ronald Blair III, cornerbacks Richard Sherman, K'Waun Williams and Ahkello Witherspoon and safety Jaquiski Tartt.

Well you can't fill every single spot with top talent, so you TRY to fill key spots and go from there. They will obviously extend or re-sign or tag Kittle, but IMO also key players are DJ Jones, Juszczyk, and K'Waun Williams. I almost want to put Tartt in here too, but again you just can't keep everybody.

Looking at this list now, does it affect how we draft now?

RobertPhD01 · Apr 7, 2020

The DC needs an extension and the players he needs or he will move on to a HC job elsewhere.

deep9er · Apr 7, 2020

RobertPhD01 said:
The DC needs an extension and the players he needs or he will move on to a HC job elsewhere.

That is a difficult thing to stop, if Coordinators want to become HC's, they'll just take the first opportunity. Having a currently good defense is a secondary factor.

A GM and HC has to look at the team, they can't defensive players just to satisfy the DC.

deep9er · Apr 13, 2020

49ers Announce Roster Moves

Don't think this means much because we've typically done this going into drafts. These two will not count against the cap yet as they aren't one of the highest 51 (?) players.

AM a little surprised they re-signed Verret, even what is likely minimum wage.

deep9er · Apr 27, 2020

https://www.************.com/articl...s-49ers-d-line-looking-drafting-javon-kinlaw/

Totally agree DJ Jones will be a big factor this season, please don't get hurt again. Kinlaw will have those flash plays but DJ will be the consistent cog in the middle.

deep9er · Apr 28, 2020

https://www.************.com/articl...est-buckner-allowed-49ers-move-forward-lynch/

Two years ago, a year ago, very hard to resist signing top Free Agents. We had lots of cap space so most here keep saying why don't we sign him and him and him? Why aren't we trying hard to improve? The York's are cheap, etc etc. We DID add a few (Sherman and Alexander) but fans complained we didn't add more.

Well in no time your cap space evaporates as your own players become stars. This off season we're already close to the hilt and next off season Lynch will have even tougher decisions. Not expecting us to pick up top free agents next off season either, unless you count our own players.

deep9er · Apr 30, 2020

https://www.************.com/articles/136540-trotter-49ers-objectively-you-cannot-say-theyre-better/

Yes, the 49ers are not better today, you can't just plug in two rookies and say 'no change'.

But this question is for the overall team and IMO most will improve just by being in the system. Some will regress due to logering injuries and a little for age, but not enough to pull down all the improvements.

On paper this team is still one of the best so we'll see how the SB hangover affects us?

poewelch84 · May 1, 2020

deep9er said:
https://www.************.com/articles/136540-trotter-49ers-objectively-you-cannot-say-theyre-better/

Yes, the 49ers are not better today, you can't just plug in two rookies and say 'no change'.

But this question is for the overall team and IMO most will improve just by being in the system. Some will regress due to logering injuries and a little for age, but not enough to pull down all the improvements.

On paper this team is still one of the best so we'll see how the SB hangover affects us?

I read the article and my reaction was thanks for the obvious incite. Clearly you aren't better right away with those addition particularly when comparing Kinlaw to Buckner. Now with Sanders to Aiyuk that could be very different particularly as the season progresses. Sanders is a very good WR but he isn't irreplaceable.

Ricky Roma · May 3, 2020

deep9er said:
https://www.************.com/articles/136540-trotter-49ers-objectively-you-cannot-say-theyre-better/

Yes, the 49ers are not better today, you can't just plug in two rookies and say 'no change'.

But this question is for the overall team and IMO most will improve just by being in the system. Some will regress due to logering injuries and a little for age, but not enough to pull down all the improvements.

On paper this team is still one of the best so we'll see how the SB hangover affects us?

You can't say they're worse either. Kinlaw could be Reggie White or Steve Emtman. Aiyuk could be Jerry Rice or Charles Rogers. Only time will tell.

Groo · May 3, 2020

Ricky Roma said:
You can't say they're worse either. Kinlaw could be Reggie White or Steve Emtman. Aiyuk could be Jerry Rice or Charles Rogers. Only time will tell.

It's easier to say a couple of rookies don't make us better
One day they might

deep9er · May 3, 2020

He's talking about the TEAM and not just rookies. I also took it to mean the team right now, so yes a little captain obvious the team isn't better.

But maybe enough players in on the upswing to balance the immediate loss of DeFo and Sanders?

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