The Chiefs have $177 in cap space.

NWPATSFAN said:

Oh yes because Andy has such a proven track record of winning in the playoffs? I love Andy but he's 1 game above 500 for his playoff career.

One hit wonder in the sense if they don't return to the SB this year, they likely won't in the near future. We can argue this all day but that doesn't make much sense since we're at least two years away from the outcome. Let's just wait and see. I have history on my side with teams who were in similar situations. Heck just look at Andy's former team. They aren't scaring anyone and are on a downhill slide. KCs overinflated contracts will come due. Even with Mahomes who they haven't PAID yet, they won't be any kind of perennial juggernaut. Competitive yes, someone teams are scared of not so much.

Enjoy the run while it lasts. That's a great young team. Fun to watch.

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There is A Moose at 3rd said:

The Patriots' core doesn't really exist without a QB, tbh.

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There is A Moose at 3rd said:

Some Patriots fans in here act like Stidham ≥ Brady in 2020 and the defense lost nobody.

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Scooby-Doo said:

No we haven't. You have no QB to speak of.

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NWPATSFAN said:

Ok so you feel one player is the core of a 53 man roster? Strange.

I remember a certain QB being out and the team not missing a beat on two occasions. I'll gladly take an 11-5 season.

Or are you saying without seeing Stidham in this system with all the first team snaps he can't or won't be as good as Cassel, Brissett or Jimmy G?

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sonnyblack65 said:

Belichick doesn't have a proven track without Brady, hopefully he can change that

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NWPATSFAN said:

I hope you're right. But what separates BB from the other coaches is his overall track record.

The question would be if you had to pick a coach to get you into and thru the playoffs and win the SB would you take Reid or BB?

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There is A Moose at 3rd said:

I am betting heavily against it based on his play at Auburn.

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NWPATSFAN said:

I hope you're right. But what separates BB from the other coaches is his overall track record.

The question would be if you had to pick a coach to get you into and thru the playoffs and win the SB would you take Reid or BB?

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NWPATSFAN said:

Fair enough.

Many also doubted that gangly kid out of MI going number 199.

They also doubted the three other QBs I mentioned who have had and are continuing to have decent careers. Better than the six picked before Brady in the 2000 draft.

I'll bet that BB found another capable starter? So far he hasn't given me any reason to doubt him when it comes to selecting QBs. DBs and WRs no we're talking a different story altogether.

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Pure Steel said:

If you added in taking you to good BBQ places.....I’d take Reid easily.....

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sonnyblack65 said:

Not sure yet, Bill only made the playoffs once w/o Brady so next few years will tell. It's obvious the QB makes a huge diff as Andy won the SB finally with a stud Mahomes, and could have last year, if Ford doesn't jump off sides against NE in AFCG.

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There is A Moose at 3rd said:

The thing is Cassel and Brisset were... never good?

I'll give you Jimmy G though.

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NWPATSFAN said:

Well if that is in fact a true statement not just conjecture on your part? You're proving my point. All three had winning records in NE under coach BB.

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sonnyblack65 said:

Cassell went 10-5 with an easy schedule like NE has this past season, and scored 200 pts less than the same 2007 team with Moss that won 18 games. He also went 10-5 in KC and they made the payoffs his 2nd year. Jimmy was 2-0 and Brissett was 1-1, Buffalo shutting out NE for first time in 40+ years in Foxborough

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NWPATSFAN said:

I'm not a subscriber to the easy schedule arguments. You play whatever NFL team is on your schedule every Sunday. Division games are routinely tougher because teams know each other that much more.

You're also helping prove my point. All three played well enough to win the BB system. We can go on and on about every QB and coach combo, year by year and see how they faired? But there are too many variables. Sometimes they have a good offense, sometimes they have a great D. Sometimes they have what some like to say is a tough schedule. Sometimes it's the weather or injuries...sometimes it's none or all and sometimes teams find a way to win.

Bottom line none of us know how Stidhman will perform assuming he even gets the starting gig? I'm simply saying BB has had a pretty good track record of finding QBs. I hope he's found one more?

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sonnyblack65 said:

No I'm not 1-1 is not a winning record and the loss was a shutout at home to Buffalo, Brady layed 41 pts on them on the road. If Pats didn't have an easy record in 19 , they would have been lucky to have gone 10-6. If Pats didn't have an easy schedule in 08, they lucky to go 8-8. They went 5-3 at home? They lost to Miami 13-38 at home, lost to Pitt 10-33 at home, getting the drift??

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NWPATSFAN said:

Ok so you feel one player is the core of a 53 man roster? Strange.

I remember a certain QB being out and the team not missing a beat on two occasions. I'll gladly take an 11-5 season.

Or are you saying without seeing Stidham in this system with all the first team snaps he can't or won't be as good as Cassel, Brissett or Jimmy G?

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fastforward said:

Let's wait until he beats out Hoyer and go from there.

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NWPATSFAN said:

1-1 is not a losing record either. So combined those three QBs mentioned have winning records under BB.

I think we've differed enough on the variables that are in play from week to week, year to year, game to game. No one knows what outcome any game would have if you change any or one of those variables for a given game or season. So we can continue to speculate, or we can look at the actual numbers. I know you feel it was more Brady than BB and that's fine. Time will shed a little insight on that? But we'll really never know as the variables will be different. How would Brady fair in NE in 2020 we'll never know even if he has a great season in Tamps Bay. Two different teams, two different schemes and two different schedules.

I hope them both the best, I just hope as a Pat fan BB does a little better like another SB win. If it comes against TB all that much sweeter.

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