The 2019 NFL Free Agency/Trade Thread

NWPATSFAN · Apr 3, 2020

FlyerFinFan said:
Are you serious? The Fins were giving him the starting job whereas the Saints only offered a backup opportunity. Let's ponder this beat out no one or try to beat out brees. Did anyone believe that brees would retire last year or even this year are you friggin trying to pass that BS? Now if bridge passed on Carolina this year and remained the backup again I could see your point but he didn't. Why? Because there is no opportunity there. Brees sees Brady hanging around so why would he hang them up?

You also seem to know without a shadow of a doubt that Miami didn't up their offer by even a little bit. Who are you Inspector Clouseau or something? The Fins have shown that they will turn over every stone in an attempt to find players. But with bridge they magically decided not to. Makes sense.

Lastly if bridge made such a great decision where were all of the fantastic offers from contenders? Where? Only a rebuilding Carolina who could just as easily draft a QB this year. Basically this is a two deal not a four with an option. Wow he hit it out of the park and he's not getting any younger brother.... I will laugh my ass off if Carolina drafts a QB this year as we all know it's coming who can really bet the farm on the guy when he hasn't proven much lately.

Please, please, please don't ever change. You now know more than the player.

Drew Brees gives timeline on when he'll make a decision about whether or not to retire

FlyerFinFan · Apr 3, 2020

SteelersPride said:
You're right, I can't logically debate the illogical.

pot meet kettle. Again, I've quoted
Multiple times what I've said, then you still twist it. I'll quote what you said, then it's "out of context"......

Btw it's not running when the same person regurgitates the same stuff and moves the goal posts.

it is childish not to ever admit you're wrong however. I do miss you sweetie. You gonna try that card now? You utter my name in 50% of your posts....

You pulled up posts that have nothing to do with the topic at hand? In some cases partial posts to suit your agenda. No one needs that BS so stop trying to sell it...

Of course we're all wrong from time to time I admitted I was wrong about Parker and you then argue with me that he's crap. Ok I guess I was was still right according to you so what am I to do... I guess anyone who doesn't agree with you is wrong gotcha... funny thing is we can take either side and you will take the other just to argue.

FlyerFinFan · Apr 3, 2020

NWPATSFAN said:
Keep posting keep proving the collective hoop posters.

By the way what is the basiss? I'm having trouble comprehending.

Keep derping you can life entertaining.

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Whoa you caught a typo on a message board. Thump your chest Jayne. But of course you can't answer simple questions...

FlyerFinFan · Apr 3, 2020

NWPATSFAN said:
Please, please, please don't ever change. You now know more than the player.

Drew Brees gives timeline on when he'll make a decision about whether or not to retire

Of course not but a betting man would take the over especially when he has bowl shots. Everyone except you of course...

NWPATSFAN · Apr 3, 2020

FlyerFinFan said:
Whoa you caught a typo on a message board. Thump your chest Jayne. But of course you can't answer simple questions...

You talk about others comprehension abilities and right after make a simple typo. You're not very bright are you Skippy?

Keep derping.

NWPATSFAN · Apr 3, 2020

FlyerFinFan said:
Of course not but a betting man would take the over especially when he has bowl shots. Everyone except you of course...

Remind us who said this boy genius.

"Did anyone believe that brees would retire last year or even this year are you friggin trying to pass that BS?"

Keep posting, keep on proving.

SteelersPride · Apr 3, 2020

NWPATSFAN said:
Remind us who said this boy genius.

"Did anyone believe that brees would retire last year or even this year are you friggin trying to pass that BS?"

Keep posting, keep on proving.

Should we sound the alarms?

HaroldSeattle · Apr 3, 2020

FlyerFinFan said:
Are you serious? The Fins were giving him the starting job whereas the Saints only offered a backup opportunity.

Dolphins were offering to let him be a band aid, but only if he signs a short term below market contract that allows them to dump him as soon as they wish without a cap hit. Panthers offer includes guaranteed money that assures he'll be there at least 2 years.Let me quote Salguero.

Because any starting quarterback whom a team has a conviction about usually gets a longer-term deal — typically four years — which guarantees the player will be around at least two years before the team can vacate the agreement without a huge salary-cap backlash.

FlyerFinFan said:
Did anyone believe that brees would retire last year or even this year are you friggin trying to pass that BS?

Talk about trying to pass BS. NWPATSFAN already took 5 seconds to show what a load of crap that is with a link.

FlyerFinFan said:
Lastly if bridge made such a great decision where were all of the fantastic offers from contenders? Where? Only a rebuilding Carolina who could just as easily draft a QB this year. Basically this is a two deal not a four with an option.

Even in year 3 there is a 5 million cap hit. Go ahead and put the Dolphins offer besides the the Panthers offer. Lets compare them. Let me quote Salguero again.

If Bridgewater can’t get that deal from the Dolphins he can always go back to New Orleans and wait out the 40-year-old Brees or try to hit the market again next year and find a better situation.

See how Salguero called this ? It was so predictable. It all worked out great for Bridgewater. The Dolphins were trying to take advantage and play Bridgewater for a fool. It's plain to see.

dtgold88 · Apr 3, 2020

FlyerFinFan said:
Logic makes sense as he most likely realized his mistake last year which set him back a year and a ton of money. Most people won't make the same mistake again Either it was his decision or bad advice from his agent take your pick then. I personally think he was scared because Miami wasn't a perfect situation but he was dumb in thinking so.

Now let's play this the other way according to you the saints was the best opportunity as brees is old blah blah blah....then why didn't he stay there as a backup again due to all of your reasons? Remember the panthers are rebuilding similar to what happened in Miami so what magically changed his mind? Perhaps he learned his lesson.....things that make you say hmmmmmm.

you think he gets a 3 year, $60 mil offer last year/

dtgold88 · Apr 3, 2020

NWPATSFAN said:
Have you taken note that you're the ONLY one here on the Hoop that seems to understand you?

Think he's a little out there on his TB comments, but seems OK otherwise.

dtgold88 · Apr 3, 2020

Schmoopy1000 said:
Long story short.
He would have ended up being like Rosen if he went to miami. his career would have been dead man walking.
Now he is going to be an actual starter.

I'll admit Triple F is wrong.

I agree on premise it would have been dumb to go to Miami, but disagree on this. Rosen ended up as he did because he is Rosen and probably just not very good. I think if TB played he'd have done better than Rosen. Not sure he keeps the job as Fitz can play some, as well.

dtgold88 · Apr 3, 2020

FlyerFinFan said:
So why would he have done worse than Fitz? Fitz is an old backup QB. Are you saying bridge is worse and backup at best? If so then maybe he was a little scared to show what he has as he knew he couldn't do it.

Comparing him to a shell shocked 2 year QB is pretty weak. Bridge has been around a lot longer no? Rosen simply wasn't ready to start and maybe he never will be that's another story. Either way looking back the coaches probably made the right decision to let Rosen learn on the sideline from the vet. Bridge would have been the starter too as Fitz wouldn't have been needed. Let's see compete against brees or Rosen that's tough.

agree....Rosen comparison not a good analogy.

dtgold88 · Apr 3, 2020

NWPATSFAN said:
Keep posting keep proving the collective hoop posters.

By the way what is the basiss? I'm having trouble comprehending.

Keep derping you can life entertaining.

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He probably had a simple typo (and you knew what it meant), but this makes sense?....."Keep derping you can life entertaining."

Schmoopy1000 · Apr 3, 2020

dtgold88 said:
I agree on premise it would have been dumb to go to Miami, but disagree on this. Rosen ended up as he did because he is Rosen and probably just not very good. I think if TB played he'd have done better than Rosen. Not sure he keeps the job as Fitz can play some, as well.

I agree Bridgewater is better than Rosen. However Miami was a dumpster fire at start of season (vs. late in season) Rosen & Fitz got destroyed early on. Bridgewater would have started the season. Looked bad & replaced & would be in the same scenario as Rosen. Not implying he is like Rosen, but would be in same scenario.

dtgold88 · Apr 3, 2020

Schmoopy1000 said:
I agree Bridgewater is better than Rosen. However Miami was a dumpster fire at start of season (vs. late in season) Rosen & Fitz got destroyed early on. Bridgewater would have started the season. Looked bad & replaced & would be in the same scenario as Rosen. Not implying he is like Rosen, but would be in same scenario.

Wouldn't rule that out but I disagree. Rosen was beyond bad....I don't see TB playing like that.

Schmoopy1000 · Apr 3, 2020

dtgold88 said:
Wouldn't rule that out but I disagree. Rosen was beyond bad....I don't see TB playing like that.

I get where you are coming from. but a talented QB was gonna look bad early in the season. Name recognition would have kept that player from losing his job, but Bridgewater IMO would have. Then his rep would be trash. As he would have been a question mark going in.

All in all though. We agree he was smart to avoid that scenario altogether.

FlyerFinFan · Apr 3, 2020

NWPATSFAN said:
You talk about others comprehension abilities and right after make a simple typo. You're not very bright are you Skippy?

Keep derping.

Reading comprehension in comparison to a typo when on a phone....yep very similar in only NW's mind.

FlyerFinFan · Apr 3, 2020

NWPATSFAN said:
Remind us who said this boy genius.

"Did anyone believe that brees would retire last year or even this year are you friggin trying to pass that BS?"

Keep posting, keep on proving.

You seriously don't understand my point do you...wow. I can't even comment its too embarrassing.

Anointed One · Apr 3, 2020

Most of us PAC 12 fans saw the riding on the wall for Rosen the minute he was drafted... He just doesn't have the moxy to be an NFL QB... He's been terrible... No signs of improvement... TB is light years better than Rosen will ever be... Rosen will be lucky if he's in the league in 2 or 3 years...

FlyerFinFan · Apr 3, 2020

HaroldSeattle said:
Dolphins were offering to let him be a band aid, but only if he signs a short term below market contract that allows them to dump him as soon as they wish without a cap hit. Panthers offer includes guaranteed money that assures he'll be there at least 2 years.Let me quote Salguero.

Because any starting quarterback whom a team has a conviction about usually gets a longer-term deal — typically four years — which guarantees the player will be around at least two years before the team can vacate the agreement without a huge salary-cap backlash.

Talk about trying to pass BS. NWPATSFAN already took 5 seconds to show what a load of crap that is with a link.

Even in year 3 there is a 5 million cap hit. Go ahead and put the Dolphins offer besides the the Panthers offer. Lets compare them. Let me quote Salguero again.

If Bridgewater can’t get that deal from the Dolphins he can always go back to New Orleans and wait out the 40-year-old Brees or try to hit the market again next year and find a better situation.

See how Salguero called this ? It was so predictable. It all worked out great for Bridgewater. The Dolphins were trying to take advantage and play Bridgewater for a fool. It's plain to see.

Yes you know 100% that even if bridge played fantastic if he had accepted their offer that the Fins would just walk away from him and not offer anything close to what a rebuilding carolina offered. Gotcha. Makes a whole lot of sense for a team starving for a QB. Hell they are bringing back ancient Fitz for another year but they wouldn't do this with bridge if he performed. No contract extension once he's proven himself. I guess that you are so invested in your argument that you can't see anything else rational.

Again you or amando or baby Jesus have no idea what the Fins offered you can only speculate. They obviously wanted him enough to negotiate but weren't going to pay him 20 M last year without knowing his on field status. No one was including the saints. Now that he lucked out that brees went down for 5 games and showed that he can still play only one solid offer. ONE! Yet he made out like a bandit from your standpoint...comical. Even SP commented that he thought he'd get more so why didn't he? Perhaps not enough film especially when on a contender....

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