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interesting list choices if only 1996 on counts...
 

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Lambert played the MLB spot and Ham OLB...we're probably splitting hairs as to which one was better. Ham was probably the most consistent, he could cover and play the run. I just remember more splash plays by Lambert is all.

Yes, of the post 80s era...Troy is the one guy that I think every Steeler fan would pick.


Agree, both were fantastic, Lambert did all the dirty work up the middle and Ham was sideline to sideline with great tackling skills and tremendous in coverage...Ham was more athletic and Lambert was more of an intimidating presence.....As for Blount, he was a force, they changed rules because of him...they just stopped throwing to his side of the field after he won DPOY....
 

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Agree, both were fantastic, Lambert did all the dirty work up the middle and Ham was sideline to sideline with great tackling skills and tremendous in coverage...Ham was more athletic and Lambert was more of an intimidating presence.....As for Blount, he was a force, they changed rules because of him...they just stopped throwing to his side of the field after he won DPOY....

Big corners are nothing new...Blount was one of the originals 6'+ back in the 70s...like you mentioned the physicality he brought to the game had not been seen on that level...they did introduce rule changes because of him...the 5 yd chuck rule was known as the Mel Blount Rule.
 

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The 2000 Baltimore Ravens are the Mount Rushmore of defenses. And I don't like Baltimore.
 

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Lambert played the MLB spot and Ham OLB...we're probably splitting hairs as to which one was better. Ham was probably the most consistent, he could cover and play the run. I just remember more splash plays by Lambert is all.

Yes, of the post 80s era...Troy is the one guy that I think every Steeler fan would pick.
That's what I remember about those days as well. It was also the days of much more run heavy offense and what people remember most about Lambert was him filling the hole and blowing up RBs. I think even the fullbacks were a little intimidated by the dude.
 

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The 2000 Baltimore Ravens are the Mount Rushmore of defenses. And I don't like Baltimore.

That would be very challenging but taking a stab at it.

In no particular order

PIT '78, BAL '00, CHI '85, NYG '90

Hon. mention TB '02
 

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That's what I remember about those days as well. It was also the days of much more run heavy offense and what people remember most about Lambert was him filling the hole and blowing up RBs. I think even the fullbacks were a little intimidated by the dude.

He fed off the blow up hits...and very intimidating...the bigs up were really the guts of that Steel Curtain...Lambert stayed clean....I guess you can't put them all in, but it's a shame LC Greenwood is not a HOFer.
 

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Good one.

For me...I could go all 70s players, but Troy was transcendent.

Joe Greene
Mel Blount
Troy P
Lambert or Ham...tough call, but I went Lambert.

I would pick those exact 4 as well, Lambert over Ham as well.
 

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That would be very challenging but taking a stab at it.

In no particular order

PIT '78, BAL '00, CHI '85, NYG '90

Hon. mention TB '02
The gist I've gotten from the 85' Bears is that they aren't clearly the best defense but they are the best elite defense that also had a decent offense. Footballoutsiders had the 85 Bears as the 5th best offense in the league. Bears were 2nd in points scored. Darn good team.

Baltimore 00 is the best modern run defense ive seen. Tampa 2 is the best modern pass defense ive seen. Both of those offenses were pretty subpar/bad for their era.

FWIW, footballoutsiders also has the '74 Steelers as the best Steelers defense. I can't really speak too much to that because my knowledge of that era is very limited.
 

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The gist I've gotten from the 85' Bears is that they aren't clearly the best defense but they are the best elite defense that also had a decent offense. Footballoutsiders had the 85 Bears as the 5th best offense in the league. Bears were 2nd in points scored. Darn good team.

Baltimore 00 is the best modern run defense ive seen. Tampa 2 is the best modern pass defense ive seen. Both of those offenses were pretty subpar/bad for their era.

FWIW, footballoutsiders also has the '74 Steelers as the best Steelers defense. I can't really speak too much to that because my knowledge of that era is very limited.

Good stuff.

I go with the '85 Bears because they were so dominant with that Buddy Ryan front....they seemed to feed off the hype going into the playoffs and just steamrolled to and through the SB....they actually followed that up well....with a hodge of QBs ending with Flutie getting beat by the 'Skins.

PIT...'74...I can believe it...I was a young teen myself for the 1st two SBs and they clearly carried Bradshaw... the '76 DEF was awesome...the team got off to a slow start that year, and were 1-4 or something like that and then the DEF turned it up...3 or 4 shutouts in a row, at least 3 or 4 other games with 10 or less points scored...made the playoffs, but they got beat in the 1st rd...anyway...no ring, no glory, but that was a helluva DEF.
 

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The gist I've gotten from the 85' Bears is that they aren't clearly the best defense but they are the best elite defense that also had a decent offense. Footballoutsiders had the 85 Bears as the 5th best offense in the league. Bears were 2nd in points scored. Darn good team.

Baltimore 00 is the best modern run defense ive seen. Tampa 2 is the best modern pass defense ive seen. Both of those offenses were pretty subpar/bad for their era.

FWIW, footballoutsiders also has the '74 Steelers as the best Steelers defense. I can't really speak too much to that because my knowledge of that era is very limited.

Didn't 2000 Tenn have a better dvoa than the 00 Ravens?
 

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Good stuff.

I go with the '85 Bears because they were so dominant with that Buddy Ryan front....they seemed to feed off the hype going into the playoffs and just steamrolled to and through the SB....they actually followed that up well....with a hodge of QBs ending with Flutie getting beat by the 'Skins.

PIT...'74...I can believe it...I was a young teen myself for the 1st two SBs and they clearly carried Bradshaw... the '76 DEF was awesome...the team got off to a slow start that year, and were 1-4 or something like that and then the DEF turned it up...3 or 4 shutouts in a row, at least 3 or 4 other games with 10 or less points scored...made the playoffs, but they got beat in the 1st rd...anyway...no ring, no glory, but that was a helluva DEF.

76’ was their best D, bad start as you mentioned, win 9 straight, 5 shutouts during that stretch, allow 28 points in those 9 games......But no cigar with RB’s out vs Raiders.....Destroyed Colts in first round
 

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If you consider Deion a Cowboy, he has to be there IMO. Otherwise I like your 3 plus DeMarcus Ware
 

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Didn't 2000 Tenn have a better dvoa than the 00 Ravens?
Was that the game where Tennessee ran up and down the field and didn't score any points?

Top offense and defense in the NFL is impossible because the sample sizes, especially with the playoffs, are way too small. Its much easier to do that kind of thing with the NBA. Best this and best that. In the NFL, its really all about the best team from top to bottom.
 

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Was that the game where Tennessee ran up and down the field and didn't score any points?

Top offense and defense in the NFL is impossible because the sample sizes, especially with the playoffs, are way too small. Its much easier to do that kind of thing with the NBA. Best this and best that. In the NFL, its really all about the best team from top to bottom.

yes. And del Greco almost hit the long snapper with 2 FGs....and George fumbled a catch right into ray Lewis’s arms for a pick 6
 

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76’ was their best D, bad start as you mentioned, win 9 straight, 5 shutouts during that stretch, allow 28 points in those 9 games......But no cigar with RB’s out vs Raiders.....Destroyed Colts in first round

I thought they lost in the 1st round...how could I forgot that beatdown they put on the Colts! But no Franco the next week and Rocky was out and they got handled by OAK.

That was a beast of DEF!
 
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