2019/2020 OFF SEASON THREAD

ulmax · Feb 16, 2020

Im with the draft..there are 2 or 3
Good
LhPers that will be avalible..to the mariners..at.#6..if spencer torkelson is there..they may take him..
I have not had time this year..
To do..what i did last year..
(Wish i did..of coarse)

However..spring..ball..is just starting....lol

This draft.is just as big a deal
As last years.
Where..they did do.a really good job
But..that..is always judged..ten years from..now..by fans..
And...graphs.....lolol

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ulmax · Feb 16, 2020

But they could use more

lhpers
Of
1b
3b

Prob.in that order...if they miss on torkelson..the quality..goes down..a bit on 1b

And i dont expect..him..to last
To the mariners
But..ya still..gota..scout him
Just in case

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ulmax · Feb 16, 2020

Right now
If i had to.. i wouuuuld saaay

Asa lacy..LHP
Garrett crochet...LHP
Or
Mick abel...RHP..hs guy

Are the most..probable..

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ulmax · Feb 17, 2020

I dont usually agree with
Fansides...but this time

I do on tiejuan walker..

See that article

The future..is not..stone
As the past...is water..
And all that is left..is a memorie
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ulmax · Feb 17, 2020

Haniger..is out

But
Eric filia...is in..spring training
A guy to keep an eye on
And depth..at DH/rf..
He is not trumbo
He is a.. pete rose.. hitter
If you can remeber that far back
Lolol
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smokeyburgess · Feb 18, 2020

How about this marketing strategy for the upcoming season: Mariners baseball -- Minor League Baseball at Major League Prices!!!

NWinAZ · Feb 21, 2020

NWinAZ · Feb 21, 2020

NWinAZ said:

From Vancouver, WA. Go local guy!!!

srf1957 · Feb 21, 2020

That doesn't seem to be an upgrade . 3 years of showing he can't do the majors

NWinAZ · Feb 27, 2020

Never feel sorry for the Mariners ownership. You know they were making just as much.

NWinAZ · Feb 28, 2020

mcnabb7542 · Feb 29, 2020

NWinAZ said:

Huh, I want to insert some smart ass comment after reading this but I am in shock with the stat!

wazzu31 · Feb 29, 2020

NWinAZ said:
Never feel sorry for the Mariners ownership. You know they were making just as much.

The next CBA is going to be very interesting because of this exact thing.

mcnabb7542 · Mar 1, 2020

wazzu31 said:
The next CBA is going to be very interesting because of this exact thing.

Sock and Puck had one of the owners reps on the radio show last Saturday morning before the game and the rep was saying how the owner of the M's is putting the profits back into the team or the stadium. Of course those two weren't buying it they were hammering the guy for even saying it but it did make you stop and wonder. They have done some changes around the ballpark, ( no not a Chico's bailbond sign hanging in centerfield)

I am curious to see when these you guys are close and they open the check book for the missing pieces via free agency how much they are willing to move that payroll cap up

wazzu31 · Mar 1, 2020

mcnabb7542 said:
Sock and Puck had one of the owners reps on the radio show last Saturday morning before the game and the rep was saying how the owner of the M's is putting the profits back into the team or the stadium. Of course those two weren't buying it they were hammering the guy for even saying it but it did make you stop and wonder. They have done some changes around the ballpark, ( no not a Chico's bailbond sign hanging in centerfield)

I am curious to see when these you guys are close and they open the check book for the missing pieces via free agency how much they are willing to move that payroll cap up

That is what owners in every sport say though. Pro sports IMO is one of the only business models where it doesn’t hurt the overall health of the product if the revenue split between owners and players isn’t tilted way more towards the players side.

But that wasn’t necessarily my point with the CBA. The players union for so long had a gentleman’s agreement that the union allowed the owners to make huge profit by shafting younger players until they hit free agency then massively overpaying them, which isn’t the case anymore. It’s nice seeing deals like the Evan White deal start to happen but I’m guessing the players are going to start fighting for those type of deals to happen when a player is drafted.

NWinAZ · Mar 1, 2020

wazzu31 said:
The players union for so long had a gentleman’s agreement that the union allowed the owners to make huge profit by shafting younger players until they hit free agency then massively overpaying them

I could be wrong but minor leaguers aren't part of the CBA so they also get the shaft thanks to greedy owners and union.

wazzu31 · Mar 1, 2020

NWinAZ said:
I could be wrong but minor leaguers aren't part of the CBA so they also get the shaft thanks to greedy owners and union.

They pay union dues, I guess I didn’t think of that. The CBA has the structure of the minor league deals/rookie contracts though don’t they?

NWinAZ · Mar 1, 2020

wazzu31 said:
They pay union dues, I guess I didn’t think of that. The CBA has the structure of the minor league deals/rookie contracts though don’t they?

See I don't know that. I thought I heard it was a different union during suspension talks one time.

NWinAZ · Mar 1, 2020

wazzu31 said:
They pay union dues, I guess I didn’t think of that. The CBA has the structure of the minor league deals/rookie contracts though don’t they?

Good article:

Let’s Talk About the Minor Leagues

wazzu31 · Mar 1, 2020

NWinAZ said:
Good article:

Let’s Talk About the Minor Leagues

Wow, great article. Maybe it’s different now or it went somewhere else but when I was working with the Rainiers. All of the players were paying unions dues (only knew because of the brash hotshots took everyone out and bragged about their contracts and that little dues thing was on my paystub too when I looked at their check) and when I worked in the field as a bat or ball boy I had to punch in a different code and paid into them as well. I assumed it went to the MLBPA, but maybe not. I didn’t care and none of the players ever said anything about it so I guess I don’t know where those dues went. I also figured the MLBPA objected to the contracting of minor league teams because of that. So I guess retract most of my premise. I tried googling so is it when someone is put on a 40 man their dues go to the MLBPA? I knew there were contradicting reports of the PA wanted MLB rosters expanded because of that but I just assumed when you are on a MLB contract you receive more money, hence a higher percentage of dues.

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