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Best two way player in game today. Jayson Tatum. Ceiling ?
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You're obviously an idiot
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bucky has discovered the facepalm button. Reminds me of when my infant son discovered his willie.
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I recommended for you to pay visit to your shrink if you keep diminishing Bledsoe and also suggested to "end the conversation"... You kept insisting and I asked you to come with 5 better than Bledsoe who is 11th in P.E.R ranking...
You came back claiming that all the 15th, the 16th, the 23rd, the 42nd and the 45th are all better than the 11th...
Therefore thanks for you "opinion", please end it here and go check with your shrink...
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I recommended for you to pay visit to your shrink if you keep diminishing Bledsoe and also suggested to "end the conversation"... You kept insisting and claiming nonsense like "he's 30", "he has large contract" and I had to asked you to come back with 5 better than Bledsoe PGs, who is 11th in P.E.R ranking...
You came back claiming that the 15th, the 16th, the 23rd, the 42nd and the 45th in P.E.R ranking PGs, are all better than the 11th...
Therefore thanks for you "opinion", please end it here and go check with your shrink...
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According to PER, Trae Young is the 3rd best point guard in basketball. TJ McConnell is the 20th best PG in the NBA. And Derrick Rose is the 5th best PG in the NBA.
You agree with that?
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NO! I'm not getting into this...
1. I suggested a trade on how Bledsoe can end to the Lakers, although the Lakers have nothing which would interest the Bucks, but Lebron wants Bledsoe to play with him...
2. The trade was this: Lakers receive Bledsoe, Bucks receive: Bogdanovic (on a S&T for 65/4M) + Bjelica (non guaranteed for next season), Kings receive: Kuzma + Green + 2x2nd (one from Bucks through Pacers, the other from LAL)
3. You started arguing that this is bad for all sides but the Bucks, that the Kings have plenty of cap space to resign BB, that Green is ageing and the Kings would want young players to take back for Bjelica, that BB worths more than Kuzma + 2x2nd because (better IYO) Brogdon was traded for a mid-low 1st + 2x2nd and you've ended up diminising Bledsoe and even compared him with ...Beverly in his game qualities!
4. I replied back proving to you that the Kings don't have enough cap space and even if they had, it would be stupid for them to become (financially) unable to progress the roster, that Bjelica is also aging and on a non guaranteed contract for one more season, that the value payed for BB is more than what the return was on Brogdon's trade, because Kuzma worths more than a mid-low 1st and therefore the Kings get significantly more value back than what the return was for Brogdon and that Bledsoe is a clutch PG better than any you suggested and on an "steal contract" too (3/54M remaining) for his real value. I then suggested to stop the conversation and you visit a shrink (because of your stupid evaluations on matters).
5. Now you come back again and obviously want to divert the conversation (yet again) to Bledsoe's value... No! I'm not going back in circles... I suggest you visit a shrink first, take some medication and if you come to your senses, then come back to quote me by saying:
"Hey, that's a nice win-win-win trade you suggest there"... The Bucks gain depth on the guards and wings for next season, the Lakers become significantly better and add the playmaking they desperately need and the Kings add youth and talent next to the rest talented young they have, in a position which fits great next to rest of the young ones and also gain a deep financial breather.
Then I'll know you are cured and can discuss with you matters!
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Correction.
LeBron WANTED Bledsoe to play him.
When he was in Cleveland.
And while I am sure LeBron and the Lakers would love to add a PG who can take some of the playmaking burden off of LeBron, they will only make a move like that at a reasonable cost. Subtracting 2 key rotation players is not the type of move they would seek out unless they player they return is significantly better than what they give.
At this current time, Bledsoe is not greater than Kuzma + Green.
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Lastly, @buckalis,
If Bledsoe was truly as valuable as you claim, you would not be throwing him in every possible trade idea you have. He is a good player. About a league average PG, maybe slightly above. His contract is fair. He has some trade value, but he is not a premium asset because at age 30 there is no more upside. He is who he is. A really good defender who can attack the rim but struggles for consistency with his jumpshot.
If Bledsoe was truly as valuable as you claim, you would not be throwing him in every possible trade idea you have. He is a good player. About a league average PG, maybe slightly above. His contract is fair. He has some trade value, but he is not a premium asset because at age 30 there is no more upside. He is who he is. A really good defender who can attack the rim but struggles for consistency with his jumpshot.
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Did you ask Lebron and he replied to you that he doesn't want Bledsoe to start behind him anymore?
You start with "correction"... you correct me (LOL) on what?
Then:
"the Lakers would love to add a PG who can take some of the playmaking burden off of LeBron",
but:
"they will only make a move like that at a reasonable cost" and also:
"subtracting 2 key rotation players is not the type of move they would seek out unless they player they return is significantly better than what they give".
I guess you don't "correct me" but instead "confirm me"!!!
1. There is no PG around at more reasonable cost than Bledsoe given his abilities and what he would add to the Lakers given he is the fastest PG in the league (exactly the reason why he is Bron's favorite PG).
2. Bledsoe's minutes alone, would exceed what would Green and Kuzma play given that the starting line up would be Bledsoe, KCP, Bron, AD, McGee and Bledsoe is capable (as he has many times proved) to even play all 48mins (if needed).
3. The salary cost of Green and Kuzma for the Lakers is about the same as Bledsoe's salary, but given that Kuzma is still on the salary of his rookie contract, the cost is projected to be about double of what it is today a couple of season's later (while Bledsoe's salary is "locked" to rise at an equivalent percentage or less as the threshold rises for each of the next three seasons).
4. The Lakers open a roster spot up to add another wing or combo guard next to Bron.
5. The Lakers can get Green back (like Bledsoe he is "Klutch"... remember?) If he refuses his P.O. (I doubt the Kings would have any objection - probably it would make them very happy too if they can avoid his salary and empty another roster spot up - they bought J. Parker already to rotate on Bjelica's place) or a season later if he doesn't. (surely the Kings wouldn't resign him given his age, or include him on their future plans for that matter).
Obviously, you are known to be "the smart ass" in here who argues only for arguing purposes, and nothing more or for "prestige among stupid purposes", but it only proves you stupid to do so... You know less than elementary on the game with respect to me and it shows.
I hope you bother to read, because you never do and you keep quoting on other all the time... it will help you learn some...
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OK... now his contract is "fair"! No it's not "fair", it's a steal!
"If Bledsoe was truly as valuable as you claim, you would not be throwing him in every possible trade idea you have."
Now that's truly laughable! You know how many clutch combo guards the Bucks have?
We bring Hill (the best 3pt shooter in the entire league this season) and Donte from bench!
Now, obviously we will be starting Donte at 2 for the postseason, but the kid hasn't had even 90 games yet! On him the Bucks have their 3rd All Star next to Giannis and Middleton for both their present and future success and the Bucks additionally have two clutch ballhandlers/playmakers on Giannis and Middleton in their starting roster...
What would the Bucks look for next, is to add the 4th clutch piece in their roster and BB "fulfills the bill" perfect being at the correct age which fits our time table in order to keep contending for as long as Giannis career lasts... We won't have to look for a replacement for at least another six seasons...
Then it's the salary of Bledsoe... he has the 3rd largest contract in the Bucks roster after accepting a long term "team friendly" in order to stay with the Bucks (he said: "Those past two seasons were the most fun in my career and I want to stay here" in the interview after he signed the extension mid-season last year) and therefore can bring buck valuable return, while the Bucks already have enough depth so that they won't miss anything if they replace him...
Bledsoe and Ilyasova add up to nearly 24M for the Bucks next season and if we add the MLE, the Bucks can add 35M of return which will then turn them to an unbeatable super team!
But as I said before:
"Obviously, you are known to be "the smart ass" in here who argues only for arguing purposes, and nothing more or for "prestige among stupid purposes", but it only proves you stupid to do so... You know less than elementary on the game with respect to me and it shows."
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