Kyle Shanahan, stick a fork in him?

Tapey · Feb 16, 2020

Montalban said:
You would be wrong: See the link below

Super Bowl 2020: Chiefs’ Andy Reid finally wins the big one vs. 49ers | Here’s why ex-Eagles coach was able to win elusive Lombardi Trophy

How are they the best team then?

Montalban · Feb 16, 2020

HaroldSeattle said:
What Shanahan's late Super Bowl play-calling should tell us

When the 49ers took over again with 6:13 remaining, Kansas City had cut the lead to 20-17. The 49ers’ first offensive play was from their own 20-yard line.

Mostert gained 5 yards on first down, setting up a second-and-5. It was wide open for Shanahan to run or pass. The Chiefs had eight defenders in the box. At this stage of the game, Garoppolo had completed 18 of his 22 pass attempts.

Garoppolo faked an inside handoff to Mostert, who if he had been handed the ball would have run into the teeth of the Kansas City defense to the left. Kittle, lined up in the right slot, was wide open for what would have been at least a 10-yard gain in the middle of the field.

Shanahan has no regrets on abandoning run down stretch

When asked if he wished they had run the ball more on that possession, Shanahan stood by his decision.

"No not at all," he said. "The last thing you're thinking about when you're up three points and there is that much time left, the clock is not an issue at that time, especially with the timeouts. The issue was moving the chains. If you move the chains, then you will wind the clock."

Jimmy G. choked away the game.

That really makes Shanahan look bad. He knows darn well he should have run there but won't admit it. He knows, as do you, that the only way the clock could stop is with an incomplete pass and he brought that chance into the equation with the poor play call. His ego got the best of him.

Montalban · Feb 16, 2020

Tapey said:
How are they the best team then?

Won more games than any team while playing in the toughest division and the toughest conference. KC was the better team on Super Bowl Sunday. They played 60 minutes instead of 54 like the 49ers did.

Montalban · Feb 16, 2020

packerzrule said:
You are going to give yourself a fit. This really kills you doesn't it? Poor little guy.

Another horrible miss.

Practice more and come back and try again.[/QUOTE]
Still butthurt. Hard to believe you can't get over the beating you took here and keep coming back for more.

HaroldSeattle · Feb 16, 2020

Montalban said:
That really makes Shanahan look bad. He knows darn well he should have run there but won't admit it. He knows, as do you, that the only way the clock could stop is with an incomplete pass and he brought that chance into the equation with the poor play call. His ego got the best of him.

6 or almost 6 minutes is too early just to run the ball, you need first downs. The defense is looking to stop the run with 8 in the box. second and 5 is the ideal time to try a pass to get that first down. Jimmy gets that first down and I bet you declare Shanahan brilliant and Jimmy MVP. Course Jimmy choked so Shanahan an idiot for counting on him from distraught 49er fans.

packerzrule · Feb 16, 2020

Montalban said:
Another horrible miss.

Practice more and come back and try again.

Still butthurt. Hard to believe you can't get over the beating you took here and keep coming back for more.[/QUOTE]

Again with the panty waist tern of "butt hurt"?

Perhaps I should be more creative like this dill weed

SteelersPride said:
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I think, perhaps, you need to calm down. Its just a thought.

You lose again skeezeks.

SteelersPride · Feb 16, 2020

packerzrule said:
Still butthurt. Hard to believe you can't get over the beating you took here and keep coming back for more.

Again with the panty waist tern of "butt hurt"?

Perhaps I should be more creative like this dill weed

You lose again skeezeks.[/QUOTE]
"nonsense"

handicappers · Feb 16, 2020

Monty really taking a beating in here. So sad.

msgkings322 · Feb 16, 2020

HaroldSeattle said:
6 or almost 6 minutes is too early just to run the ball, you need first downs. The defense is looking to stop the run with 8 in the box. second and 5 is the ideal time to try a pass to get that first down. Jimmy gets that first down and I bet you declare Shanahan brilliant and Jimmy MVP. Course Jimmy choked so Shanahan an idiot for counting on him from distraught 49er fans.

As I've said many times, all JG had to do was not overthrow Sanders on one single play and the following are declared by most here and the media:

1. JG is a SB MVP and a top 10 QB
2. Shanahan is the new young genius coach (his play call got Sanders wide open after all)
3. Andy Reid is still a choker
4. Mahomes is soft
5. KC has little chance to get back to the SB

One play.

Tapey · Feb 17, 2020

Montalban said:
Won more games than any team while playing in the toughest division and the toughest conference. KC was the better team on Super Bowl Sunday. They played 60 minutes instead of 54 like the 49ers did.

Sounds like the 49ers weren’t the best team

SteelersPride · Feb 17, 2020

msgkings322 said:
As I've said many times, all JG had to do was not overthrow Sanders on one single play and the following are declared by most here and the media:

1. JG is a SB MVP and a top 10 QB
2. Shanahan is the new young genius coach (his play call got Sanders wide open after all)
3. Andy Reid is still a choker
4. Mahomes is soft
5. KC has little chance to get back to the SB

One play.

If Ben doesn't throw a ball to santonio. Then Kurt Warner is more highly regarded. Bens a nobody.

Kicker misses a kick, does Brady become goat? I love revisionist history.

ATL96Steeler · Feb 17, 2020

msgkings322 said:
As I've said many times, all JG had to do was not overthrow Sanders on one single play and the following are declared by most here and the media:

1. JG is a SB MVP and a top 10 QB
2. Shanahan is the new young genius coach (his play call got Sanders wide open after all)
3. Andy Reid is still a choker
4. Mahomes is soft
5. KC has little chance to get back to the SB

One play.

The big what if game?

1....with his stats, he might still win MVP if he connects there, but if that DEF keeps KC stuck on 10...idk
2....no question that would've been the media's take
3....yep
4....doubtful
5....idk about that, keep the DEF intact and get a big RB, they will have a shot while Mahomes is on his rookie deal.

SteelersPride · Feb 17, 2020

ATL96Steeler said:
The big what if game?

1....with his stats, he might still win MVP if he connects there, but if that DEF keeps KC stuck on 10...idk
2....no question that would've been the media's take
3....yep
4....doubtful
5....idk about that, keep the DEF intact and get a big RB, they will have a shot while Mahomes is on his rookie deal.

Maybe if the dB would of turned around it's different too.

maybe if Kevin Dyson got 2 more yards..... oh the fun we could have.

msgkings322 · Feb 17, 2020

ATL96Steeler said:
The big what if game?

1....with his stats, he might still win MVP if he connects there, but if that DEF keeps KC stuck on 10...idk
2....no question that would've been the media's take
3....yep
4....doubtful
5....idk about that, keep the DEF intact and get a big RB, they will have a shot while Mahomes is on his rookie deal.

History shows the SB loser often doesn't even make the playoffs the next year let alone go to the SB again

Again, for the umpteenth time, I'm not saying KC didn't win that game as the better team. They did, they were. But the narratives we construct can be a little overwrought. Is Reid really a choker if JG makes that one throw? Is JG really so terrible because he missed it?

msgkings322 · Feb 17, 2020

SteelersPride said:
If Ben doesn't throw a ball to santonio. Then Kurt Warner is more highly regarded. Bens a nobody.

Kicker misses a kick, does Brady become goat? I love revisionist history.

You keep missing my point. If a kicker misses a kick, does that make Brady less awesome? If Ben doesn't connect with Santonio, is Warner truly better? I'm just musing on how narratives are constructed often on tiny things like that.

ATL96Steeler · Feb 17, 2020

msgkings322 said:
History shows the SB loser often doesn't even make the playoffs the next year let alone go to the SB again

Again, for the umpteenth time, I'm not saying KC didn't win that game as the better team. They did, they were. But the narratives we construct can be a little overwrought. Is Reid really a choker if JG makes that one throw? Is JG really so terrible because he missed it?

I'm not the best with hypothetical situations, but I didn't think you meant KC returning was a next year thing.

Reid...IDK about choker...I think KC was a 1.5 or 2 pt favorite iirc, but definitely the same ole Andy Reid...can't win the big one would've continued.

JG...naturally he's looked at in a different light if the pass is completed, but for me, the way Shanahan called these playoff games including the SB, that told me enough about JG....at least how Shanny perceives him. Clearly he did not take on the same type of game plan that he did with Matt Ryan.

To be honest...given JG's real game experience...can't really blame Shanahan but when your QB is making that kind of coin, you expect them to be the catalyst.

SteelersPride · Feb 17, 2020

msgkings322 said:
You keep missing my point. If a kicker misses a kick, does that make Brady less awesome? If Ben doesn't connect with Santonio, is Warner truly better? I'm just musing on how narratives are constructed often on tiny things like that.

Like your doing here, its all how you twist things.

Small things are what seperates the elite from the average, heck the NFL guys from the XFL guys. The guys who get drafted to the UDFA

msgkings322 · Feb 17, 2020

SteelersPride said:
Like your doing here, its all how you twist things.

Small things are what seperates the elite from the average, heck the NFL guys from the XFL guys. The guys who get drafted to the UDFA

I'm referring to how OTHER players small things can affect a DIFFERENT player's legacy. Or a coach's.

SteelersPride · Feb 17, 2020

msgkings322 said:
I'm referring to how OTHER players small things can affect a DIFFERENT player's legacy. Or a coach's.

Yes. I get that. Those small things they do, and those small results, are what separates them.

msgkings322 · Feb 17, 2020

SteelersPride said:
Yes. I get that. Those small things they do, and those small results, are what separates them.

Is Reid a choker if JG makes that throw?

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