2019/2020 OFF SEASON THREAD

SeattleCoug · Jan 23, 2020

And it begins

MarinersBestFan · Jan 23, 2020

SeattleCoug said:
And it begins

So true ... what a completely mismanaged cluster fuck of an organization from top to bottom.

They had the ENTIRE off season to address Hanigers status and wait till the worst possible time ( near beginning of ST ) to do anything about it.

I can confirm that mariners.org has $105,000 LESS dollars in their operating budget this season.
As I a 30+ year season ticket holder did NOT renew my 18 season tickets next to the dugouts.

To expect me to pay MLB prices to watch a AA team is laughable

They can eat a bag of dicks and enjoy another 90 loss season

NWinAZ · Jan 23, 2020

SeattleCoug said:
And it begins

Good ole Jerry.

NWinAZ · Jan 23, 2020

NWinAZ · Jan 23, 2020

SeattleCoug · Jan 23, 2020

NWinAZ said:

Hey I said the White Sox a few weeks ago. At least Jerry and I can agree on something

NWinAZ · Jan 23, 2020

NWinAZ · Jan 23, 2020

Cloud · Jan 23, 2020

Not only is Haniger one unlucky sob when it comes to injuries. He’s stuck with an incompetent organization from top to bottom for a while. Ffs man.

I guess Jerry is too busy figuring out trades than taking care of his current players.

One would think they’d spend a little bit more attention to one of their better hitter and make sure he’s 100%. The fact that he had an offseason workout injury that is related to his issues from last season tells me they stink even with the medical teams.

mcnabb7542 · Jan 24, 2020

SeattleCoug said:
Worst to 1st? Here are odds it happens this season

M's 4th most likely out of the 6. I guess that suprises me slightly because I'd have them 5th

God I hope not, then Servavis will look like a good manager

SeattleCoug · Jan 24, 2020

NWinAZ said:

Giving a second thought to this and trying my best not to be a negative Mariner fan, I'll roll with it because what choice do I have.
The main issue I have with this franchise is that they never seem to have a plan with what they are doing. This above indicates an outline of a plan. Obviously the plan was to go cheap this offseason and spend next offseason, which I guess goes with Dipotos 2021 self imposed competing window. I would have liked to see some movement forward this offseason but its clear thats not whats happpening. So I'll say I'm thankful there seems to be a plan even if its not what I would have chosen. However if things dont look bettter in 12-18 months Dipotos time needs to be up. In the mean time I'll be prepping for 95-100 loss year this season.

NWinAZ · Jan 24, 2020

NWinAZ · Jan 24, 2020

Right-hander Reggie McClain was designated for assignment to create roster space.

5 months ago:
“Really impressed with what I saw from Reggie McClain,” Servais said. “That’s an awesome step in the right direction for a guy that’s come a long way in one year. I’m excited to see more of him. Hopefully he can build on that outing tonight.

Read more here: https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/mlb/seattle-mariners/article233764927.html#storylink=cpy

ulmax · Jan 25, 2020

Prob..dfa.ed..to..tacoma..or..
K.c...or..baltimore..lol..
Reggie mcClain

Margevicius.is..the.extra pitcher
They needed..
Moving on
Prob no walker..now..

Eric falia..DH..watch out..voggie
He wants..your..job..

Nice DH depth..with eric though.
..

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ulmax · Jan 25, 2020

Eric filia..dark horse..coming out of nowhere.. ( bill murry..caddy shack )

Really..mariners..can use that depth at dh
Could we see eric on the 40 man
This year..??
..
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mcnabb7542 · Jan 25, 2020

SeattleCoug said:
Giving a second thought to this and trying my best not to be a negative Mariner fan, I'll roll with it because what choice do I have.
The main issue I have with this franchise is that they never seem to have a plan with what they are doing. This above indicates an outline of a plan. Obviously the plan was to go cheap this offseason and spend next offseason, which I guess goes with Dipotos 2021 self imposed competing window..

In a certain way it makes sense not to spend this year, you want the young guys to get their feet wet and understand the way this whole thing works. How to work out of hitting slumps, more direct contact with them during BP or scheduled practices.

You want to see who is ready to step up and take their position on the big club, who's going to take the reins to be one of the voices in the club house, you want to find that core group. Bring in high priced vets right now could be a distraction to some of these younger guys. Maybe shows them bad habits...

This team has sucked for years with high priced not average talent what's one more of summer of sucking but with the chance of 5-6 guys growing up in front of our eyes.

NWinAZ · Jan 25, 2020

Mariners GM Jerry Dipoto plans to address pitching situation soon
Originally posted on MLB Trade Rumors | By Connor Byrne | Last updated 1/23/20

The rebuilding Mariners have largely stayed away from making noteworthy acquisitions this offseason. To this point, starter Kendall Graveman and reliever Carl Edwards Jr., two low-cost signings, have been their most recognizable pickups of the winter.

It’s possible that will change soon, however, with general manager Jerry Dipotoplanning to further address the team’s starting staff and bullpen imminently. Dipoto said Thursday afternoon that the Mariners could make signings within 48 to 72 hours or by sometime next week, Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times reports.

It’s unclear whom the Mariners are targeting, but with most high-quality arms off the free-agent market, any signing is likely to be of the buy-low variety. While Mariners rumors have been scarce since the offseason began, the team did show interest in Jimmy Nelson before he signed a cheap pact with the Dodgers. The M’s have also been in on Taijuan Walker, an ex-top prospect and former starter of theirs who remains available after two seasons ruined by arm problems. As inexpensive hurlers with some upside whose careers have been derailed by injuries over the past couple years, Graveman, Nelson and Walker are all cut from the same cloth.

In the Mariners’ non-contending position, it seems logical to vie for lottery tickets on the open market, perhaps in hopes the pitchers they land will rebuild their stock and wind up as in-season trade chips.

Speculatively, Matt Harvey and Shelby Miller stand out as other free-agent starters who might interest the club. Regardless, the M’s rotation could use the help. Among their starters, only Marco Gonzales looks like a strong bet to put up above-average production in 2020.

Questions also abound in Seattle’s bullpen, a unit that had a hard time keeping runs off the board last season and hasn’t welcomed many new faces since then. The bullpen market, where someone like Collin McHugh may be a fit, contains far more options than the starting class, so the Mariners could be deciding among a host of different relievers right now.

ulmax · Jan 25, 2020

NWinAZ said:
Mariners GM Jerry Dipoto plans to address pitching situation soon
Originally posted on MLB Trade Rumors | By Connor Byrne | Last updated 1/23/20

The rebuilding Mariners have largely stayed away from making noteworthy acquisitions this offseason. To this point, starter Kendall Graveman and reliever Carl Edwards Jr., two low-cost signings, have been their most recognizable pickups of the winter.

It’s possible that will change soon, however, with general manager Jerry Dipotoplanning to further address the team’s starting staff and bullpen imminently. Dipoto said Thursday afternoon that the Mariners could make signings within 48 to 72 hours or by sometime next week, Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times reports.

It’s unclear whom the Mariners are targeting, but with most high-quality arms off the free-agent market, any signing is likely to be of the buy-low variety. While Mariners rumors have been scarce since the offseason began, the team did show interest in Jimmy Nelson before he signed a cheap pact with the Dodgers. The M’s have also been in on Taijuan Walker, an ex-top prospect and former starter of theirs who remains available after two seasons ruined by arm problems. As inexpensive hurlers with some upside whose careers have been derailed by injuries over the past couple years, Graveman, Nelson and Walker are all cut from the same cloth.

In the Mariners’ non-contending position, it seems logical to vie for lottery tickets on the open market, perhaps in hopes the pitchers they land will rebuild their stock and wind up as in-season trade chips.

Speculatively, Matt Harvey and Shelby Miller stand out as other free-agent starters who might interest the club. Regardless, the M’s rotation could use the help. Among their starters, only Marco Gonzales looks like a strong bet to put up above-average production in 2020.

Questions also abound in Seattle’s bullpen, a unit that had a hard time keeping runs off the board last season and hasn’t welcomed many new faces since then. The bullpen market, where someone like Collin McHugh may be a fit, contains far more options than the starting class, so the Mariners could be deciding among a host of different relievers right now.

the standings

Nice..i have..been..speculating
On
Tiejuan Walker..
And
Shelby miller

The others..not yet..but.i do think..there is room..
For
At least..one more..

X

wazzu31 · Jan 26, 2020

mcnabb7542 said:
In a certain way it makes sense not to spend this year, you want the young guys to get their feet wet and understand the way this whole thing works. How to work out of hitting slumps, more direct contact with them during BP or scheduled practices.

You want to see who is ready to step up and take their position on the big club, who's going to take the reins to be one of the voices in the club house, you want to find that core group. Bring in high priced vets right now could be a distraction to some of these younger guys. Maybe shows them bad habits...

This team has sucked for years with high priced not average talent what's one more of summer of sucking but with the chance of 5-6 guys growing up in front of our eyes.

Great point, but problem with going strictly young is you essentially have to keep Seager and Gordon. If you take a look at all of the teams that went young but eventually made it got an experienced vet to teach the kids how to get through slumps. Most likely the real core of the team shouldn’t be on the roster until 2021. I’d love Kelenic and Rodriguez to make the club out of spring training but it’s highly doubtful.

mcnabb7542 · Jan 26, 2020

wazzu31 said:
Great point, but problem with going strictly young is you essentially have to keep Seager and Gordon. If you take a look at all of the teams that went young but eventually made it got an experienced vet to teach the kids how to get through slumps. Most likely the real core of the team shouldn’t be on the roster until 2021. I’d love Kelenic and Rodriguez to make the club out of spring training but it’s highly doubtful.

I honestly don't have a problem keeping those two around. I mean the only thing you can possibly do with Seager is cut him and you're eating a ton of money, why not make him earn his trade. Make him show he can stay healthy and hit with consistency then trade him when his value is back up.

And Dee Gordon is that vet you want younger guys to have around. You never see Dee having issues with guys on the field, he's always smiling and having fun. And a lot of former M's players have said the guy is a great club house teammate.....

Now granted you would be moving him if some of these younger guys start develop and pushes him out of the lineup

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