Will Bogdan Bogdanovic end up playing for the Bucks in the postseason?

shopson67 · Jan 23, 2020

buckalis said:
How old are you kid? You are in an age that you should be able to read, aren't you?

Also, why should Indy receive anything for their (ex) picks that the Bucks now own?

Explain why you wrote that the Kings have nothing to do with it?

Kid, lol.

shopson67 · Jan 23, 2020

tlance said:
Looks like you learned absolutely nothing from all your BS failed predictions this summer.

This deal has the Bucks sending out Bledsoe + filler for Covington, Rose, and upgrading their first to a lottery pick.

Honestly, this is every bit as bad as the George Hill, Tony Snell + I can’t remember who for Paul George.

Just utter garbage.

Not to mention that 3 way trades with this many moving parts rarely happen

buckalis · Jan 23, 2020

logic said:
While all that is good, it does not explain why they would do the Bucks such a huge favor for scraps. Plus Reggie Jackson has proven not the solution and at his best doesn't do what rose is doing.

"Scrups" is your word not mine... Jackson is playing more minutes and is starting for the Pistons whenever he is available.

buckalis · Jan 23, 2020

shopson67 said:
Not to mention that 3 way trades with this many moving parts rarely happen

Not if a team wants to add more youth on rookie contracts (like the Pistons want), or if another team has players to waive and has empty roster spots (like the Wolves do)... The Bucks OTOH, want to create empty spots, in order to move the 2-ways into the main roster (Mason and Reynolds) and bring up players from the Wisconsin Herd (which similarly to the Bucks in the NBA, dominates the G-league).

buckalis · Jan 23, 2020

shopson67 said:
Explain why you wrote that the Kings have nothing to do with it?

Kid, lol.

Because they haven't... It's a Bucks, Wolves & Pistons trade... There aren't any players of the Kings included in the suggestion, are there?

logic · Jan 23, 2020

buckalis said:
"Scrups" is your word not mine... Jackson is playing more minutes and is starting for the Pistons whenever he is available.

Actually scraps was my word, and that is all you are offering for Rose. Jackson has only played in 3 games this year due to injury. The first two at the beginning of the year, and yes he played more than Rose then because he was the established starter and they had no idea how well Rose would play. Jackson was fianlly able to go last night but Rose started and played more minutes than Jackson.

buckalis · Jan 23, 2020

logic said:
Actually scraps was my word, and that is all you are offering for Rose. Jackson has only played in 3 games this year due to injury. The first two at the beginning of the year, and yes he played more than Rose then because he was the established starter and they had no idea how well Rose would play. Jackson was fianlly able to go last night but Rose started and played more minutes than Jackson.

I would bet that Casey has a different opion than yours for what "scrap" is and additionally... He surely ain't interested in adding veterans other than in short term (2 years max) and then only if they are min contracts (no matter how good they may be)...

I can also ensure you that he values the picks and stepping up in the draft ranking much higher than you think too...

logic · Jan 23, 2020

buckalis said:
I would bet that Casey has a different opion than yours for what "scrap" is and additionally... He surely ain't interested in adding veterans other than in short term (2 years max) and then only if they are min contracts (no matter how good they may be)...

I can also ensure you that he values the picks and stepping up in the draft ranking much higher than you think too...

Svi, brown, and Galloway all have higher PER than any of the filler you are tossing out in your trade vs the only real viable PG and respectable high PER guy on the team. Moving up a few spots in the lottery is nice, but still a deal shoot. And 2 late second round picks, puh-lease. As all your trade proposals, this one too heavily favors your Bucks for reality. And why the neck would I believe you can assure me of anything Casey values? Like you are some insider with special knowledge----sure.

buckalis · Jan 23, 2020

logic said:
Svi, brown, and Galloway all have higher PER than any of the filler you are tossing out in your trade vs the only real viable PG and respectable high PER guy on the team. Moving up a few spots in the lottery is nice, but still a deal shoot. And 2 late second round picks, puh-lease. As all your trade proposals, this one too heavily favors your Bucks for reality. And why the neck would I believe you can assure me of anything Casey values? Like you are some insider with special knowledge----sure.

Correct and fast rebuilds are always the partial ones and Casey is among the most experienced coaches to handle one...

I believe he will rely on his personal relationships with players that owe to him for next season... The Pistons have plenty of cap space for next season and I believe Casey will make a "King's offer" and will land Fred Van Vleet to Detroit... Van Vleet went undrafted and it was Casey that picked him up and signed him in Toronto, he owes to him the start of his career (he could not have a career at all if Casey wouldn't have pick him out of the undrafted)...

The Pistons have now secured Doumbouya, Kennard and Wood for their future and will keep Drummond who is on an age that they can count on him for their future, unless if there is an offer which will bring them back even more valuable return than Drummond's worth... That is a (future) starting SG, a starting SF a starting PF and a starting CF... If they can add Van Vleet through free agency, it will complete the starting roster for the future and then they can look to upgrade it further as they go...

Now add to the above, Griffin, Svi and Snell and you end up with a team which is on a very good truck to end up with a roster which has a combination of talent and experience as well as with ensured long term sustainability and progress...

Therefore what the Pistons will be looking at in this upcoming off-season, will be this:

1. To make the most out of the draft night (in what Casey is a master)...
2. To add out of free agency a young starting PG which fits Casey's system well, in order to secure and complete their future and long term line-up.
3. Ta add more youth, but with proven abilities, so that they expand their depth and be competitive for the entire game...

Trades don't always work like "hey this guy is better than that guy, so lets do it" it's rather adding what a team needs that makes a successful trade and surely the Pistons needs and priorities are very different to the Bucks or the Lakers...

Therefore for Casey, getting young but proven rotation pieces on Wilson and adding a solid wing on Connaughton (or Brown? who can additionally to Pat be a ballhandler and play PG?) is of high value, but even more so, the picks and the two places they can pick higher in this upcoming draft... (of course the 1st picks exchange will be protected against a lottery outcome that would lift them up to the highest places...)

Wamu · Jan 23, 2020

buckalis said:
My view is

Correct and fast rebuilds are always the partial ones and Casey is among the most experienced coaches to handle one...

I believe he will rely on his personal relationships with players that owe to him for next season... The Pistons have plenty of cap space for next season and I believe Casey will make a "King's offer" and will land Fred Van Vleet to Detroit... Van Vleet went undrafted and it was Casey that picked him up and signed him in Toronto, he owes to him the start of his career (he could not have a career at all if Casey wouldn't have pick him out of the undrafted)...

The Pistons have now secured Doumbouya, Kennard and Wood for their future and will keep Drummond who is on an age that they can count on him for their future, unless if there is an offer which will bring them back even more valuable return than Drummond's worth... That is a (future) starting SG, a starting SF a starting PF and a starting CF... If they can add Van Vleet through free agency, it will complete the starting roster for the future and then they can look to upgrade it further as they go...

Now add to the above, Griffin, Svi and Snell and you end up with a team which is on a very good truck to end up with a roster which has a combination of talent and experience as well as with ensured long term sustainability and progress...

Therefore what the Pistons will be looking at in this upcoming off-season, will be this:

1. To make the most out of the draft night (in what Casey is a master)...
2. To add out of free agency a young starting PG which fits Casey's system well, in order to secure and complete their future and long term line-up.
3. Ta add more youth, but with proven abilities, so that they expand their depth and be competitive for the entire game...

Trades don't always work like "hey this guy is better than that guy, so lets do it" it's rather adding what a team needs that makes a successful trade and surely the Pistons needs and priorities are very different to the Bucks or the Lakers...

Therefore for Casey, getting a proven rotation piece on Wilson and adding a solid wing on Connaughton (or Brown? who can additionally to Pat be a ballhandler and play PG?) is of high value, beu even more so, the picks and the two places they can pick higher in this upcoming draft... (of course the 1st picks exchange will be protected against a lottery outcome that would lift them up to the highest places...)

buckalis · Jan 23, 2020

logic said:
Svi, brown, and Galloway all have higher PER than any of the filler you are tossing out in your trade vs the only real viable PG and respectable high PER guy on the team. Moving up a few spots in the lottery is nice, but still a deal shoot. And 2 late second round picks, puh-lease. As all your trade proposals, this one too heavily favors your Bucks for reality. And why the neck would I believe you can assure me of anything Casey values? Like you are some insider with special knowledge----sure.

All players who play at below 0.500 teams have higher PER than the bench of the Bucks... An experienced coach is watching games, not reading PERs... What interests him, is how the Bucks can have 40pts coming from bench each night and how Connaughton can restrict Lebron to score 30% less pts, or how Wilson "killed" his own Griffin and then AD a game later last year by playing state of the art defense against them... (there was room for Wilson to much higher use last season - this year the Bucks have Ilyasova healthy and have added Bender)!

logic · Jan 23, 2020

That sure was a lot of words to fail to explain why the Pistons would donate Rose to the Bucks.

Wamu · Jan 23, 2020

logic said:
That sure was a lot of words to fail to explain why the Pistons would donate Rose to the Bucks.

According to the onion.-com sports section AD, DeMar DeRozan, Fred VanVleet & Andre Drummond will all take big discounts to play for the Bucks next year.

SteelersPride · Jan 23, 2020

I got a good laugh reading some of this. Thank you @tlance and most of all thank you @buckalis

shopson67 · Jan 24, 2020

buckalis said:
Because they haven't... It's a Bucks, Wolves & Pistons trade... There aren't any players of the Kings included in the suggestion, are there?

Trade should read like this of course (Kings have nothing to do with it):

Pistons receive: Matthews, Connaughton, Wilson + (some garbage from Wolves) and 1st from Wolves + 2x2nds from Bucks (both from Indy)

Kings receive: Bledsoe + Markieff Morris + Bucks 1st (from Indy)

Bucks receive: Covington + Rose + 1st from Pistons.

You have the Kings receiving Bledsoe, Morris, and a 1st, but they're not part of the trade? If you meant Wolves, just admit your typo and move on. Christ.

buckalis · Jan 24, 2020

logic said:
That sure was a lot of words to fail to explain why the Pistons would donate Rose to the Bucks.

Did I ever say that the Pistons would donate Rose to the Bucks?

I said that they would find the offer (if happens) tempting... There is always the chance that someone else will come up with a more tempting for the Pistons offer.

I also suggested during the preseason that the Bucks would trade Middleton on a sign and trade (and keep Brogdon) if they could get Paul from OKC (I was the only one who predicted that OKC will blow it up) and even suggested Hill, Snell and Divincenzo and the picks from Indy as a trading package that the OKC should find tempting at the days... It doesn't mean that another team can't come up with a crazy offer like the the Clippers did... Lol... 6 picks + Alexander + quality fillers...
The Bucks would never give 6 picks next to Divincenzo + quality fillers...

SteelersPride · Jan 24, 2020

buckalis said:
Did I ever say that the Pistons would donate Rose to the Bucks?

I said that they would find the offer (if happens) tempting... There is always the chance that someone else will come up with a more tempting for the Pistons offer.

I also suggested during the preseason that the Bucks would trade Middleton on a sign and trade (and keep Brogdon) if they could get Paul from OKC (I was the only one who predicted that OKC will blow it up) and even suggested Hill, Snell and Divincenzo and the picks from Indy as a trading package that the OKC should find tempting at the days... It doesn't mean that another team can't come up with a crazy offer like the the Clippers did... Lol... 6 picks + Alexander + quality fillers...
The Bucks would never give 6 picks next to Divincenzo + quality fillers...

flyerhawk · Jan 24, 2020

buckalis said:
"Scrups" is your word not mine... Jackson is playing more minutes and is starting for the Pistons whenever he is available.

Pretty sure scrups is your word.

buckalis · Jan 24, 2020

flyerhawk said:
Pretty sure scrups is your word.

Pretty sure masturbation is a habit of yours you can't live without...

flyerhawk · Jan 24, 2020

buckalis said:
Pretty sure masturbation is a habit of yours you can't live without...

Tell me about.

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