Texas Rangers 2019-2020 Offseason Thread

DT LUNA · Jan 17, 2020

saddles said:
From Baseball America:

Here's how we project their lineup in 2023, with their 2023 age in parentheses.

Catcher: Sam Huff (25)
First Base: Ronald Guzman (28)
Second Base: Rougned Odor (29)
Third Base: Josh Jung (25)
Shortstop: Elvis Andrus (34)
Left Field: Nick Solak (28)
Center Field: Leody Taveras (25)
Right Field: Joey Gallo (29)
Designated Hitter: Willie Calhoun (28)

No. 1 Starter: Mike Minor (35)
No. 2 Starter: Hans Crouse (24)
No. 3 Starter: Joe Palumbo (28)
No. 4 Starter: Ronny Henriquez (23)
No. 5 Starter: Kolby Allard (25)
Closer: Demarcus Evans (26)

Hopefully Odor will not be our 2b 2023. If so, JD needs to go for certain.

saddles · Jan 17, 2020

WastinSomeTime said:
If Acuna has the athleticism of Ronald Acuna we have us some kind of SS for the future.

And Acosta is ranked ahead of Ocuna.

saddles · Jan 17, 2020

DTC · Jan 17, 2020

At least T.R. agrees with me about Pillar and Santana from last nights post.

Mailbag article from this morning.

“The Rangers would love the luxury of having Santana as a utility player, but they still need a legitimate center fielder. Kevin Pillar might be the right guy. He may no longer be Gold Glove-caliber defensively, but he can handle the position and provide some offensive power.” T.R. Sullivan

Inbox: Could the Rangers still add to OF or 'pen?

scotsman1948 · Jan 17, 2020

DTC said:
At least T.R. agrees with me about Pillar and Santana from last nights post.

Mailbag article from this morning.

“The Rangers would love the luxury of having Santana as a utility player, but they still need a legitimate center fielder. Kevin Pillar might be the right guy. He may no longer be Gold Glove-caliber defensively, but he can handle the position and provide some offensive power.” T.R. Sullivan

Inbox: Could the Rangers still add to OF or 'pen?

if we are going to pursue a CF'er, and that's a big if, I hope we are looking at a better option than Pillar.
I could see us going after Kintzler and maybe Buchter for the pen

jta4437 · Jan 17, 2020

DTC said:
At least T.R. agrees with me about Pillar and Santana from last nights post.

Mailbag article from this morning.

“The Rangers would love the luxury of having Santana as a utility player, but they still need a legitimate center fielder. Kevin Pillar might be the right guy. He may no longer be Gold Glove-caliber defensively, but he can handle the position and provide some offensive power.” T.R. Sullivan

Inbox: Could the Rangers still add to OF or 'pen?

Congrats?

DTC · Jan 17, 2020

jta4437 said:
Congrats?

lol it’s just that no one seems to agree that he would be a good pick up. Finally found someone who did ha

WastinSomeTime · Jan 17, 2020

It was interesting reading the take by some players on the Astros cheating fiasco.

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/20...r4QlnlQwInOJeDHtwREDjOnBZ4KIgCUIky6Jpbd0H2JQU

WilltheThrill · Jan 18, 2020

Yu Darvish had a 1.27 ERA in the Divisional Series and NLCS in 2017. He was almost unhittable. Then he had a 21.00 ERA against the Astros in the World Series. Nobody could explain how his first two opponents could hardly touch him but he couldn’t get any Astros out. After the series, a few Astros players infamously told him he had been tipping his pitches and they always knew what was coming. He took them at their word and spent an entire offseason working on hiding his pitches better. Then he failed to get the contract he was looking for in free agency and had to settle for a slightly lesser one (albeit a still lucrative one) from the ONLY team that gave him an offer, the Cubs. Multiple teams told his agent they were scared off by his World Series meltdown.

Now Yu’s publicly questioning whether he was tipping his pitches or the Astros were just stealing them. I don’t blame him one bit.

You see, it’s situations like Yu’s that prove the Astros cheating affects more than just who won the World Series they year. They were KNOWINGLY negatively altering multiple pitchers’ career numbers and potentially costing them money in the future. Despicable.

Kelleyman · Jan 18, 2020

It is astonishing to know with absolute certainty that the Astros organization cheated but not be able to indict one single player who cheated.

Total disconnect and an injustice to other players affected.

Kelleyman · Jan 18, 2020

WilltheThrill said:
Yu Darvish had a 1.27 ERA in the Divisional Series and NLCS in 2017. He was almost unhittable. Then he had a 21.00 ERA against the Astros in the World Series. Nobody could explain how his first two opponents could hardly touch him but he couldn’t get any Astros out. After the series, a few Astros players infamously told him he had been tipping his pitches and they always knew what was coming. He took them at their word and spent an entire offseason working on hiding his pitches better. Then he failed to get the contract he was looking for in free agency and had to settle for a slightly lesser one (albeit a still lucrative one) from the ONLY team that gave him an offer, the Cubs. Multiple teams told his agent they were scared off by his World Series meltdown.

Now Yu’s publicly questioning whether he was tipping his pitches or the Astros were just stealing them. I don’t blame him one bit.

You see, it’s situations like Yu’s that prove the Astros cheating affects more than just who won the World Series they year. They were KNOWINGLY negatively altering multiple pitchers’ career numbers and potentially costing them money in the future. Despicable.

Yu has a history against the Astros. He was really good. He would never play for them He is not mercenary

And now for him to redigest their comments about him tipping pitches. Yes it is all despicable.

And the way he points it out is all class. Astro players got a cakewalk. Not even an insincere Luhnow apology.

I am not for players getting nailed but there is going to be some payback

Kelleyman · Jan 18, 2020

Yu retweet re Gurriel distasteful mocking

saddles · Jan 18, 2020

I wonder if some players like Yu will sue other players and the Astros for monetary damages?

WastinSomeTime · Jan 18, 2020

WilltheThrill said:
Yu Darvish had a 1.27 ERA in the Divisional Series and NLCS in 2017. He was almost unhittable. Then he had a 21.00 ERA against the Astros in the World Series. Nobody could explain how his first two opponents could hardly touch him but he couldn’t get any Astros out. After the series, a few Astros players infamously told him he had been tipping his pitches and they always knew what was coming. He took them at their word and spent an entire offseason working on hiding his pitches better. Then he failed to get the contract he was looking for in free agency and had to settle for a slightly lesser one (albeit a still lucrative one) from the ONLY team that gave him an offer, the Cubs. Multiple teams told his agent they were scared off by his World Series meltdown.

Now Yu’s publicly questioning whether he was tipping his pitches or the Astros were just stealing them. I don’t blame him one bit.

You see, it’s situations like Yu’s that prove the Astros cheating affects more than just who won the World Series they year. They were KNOWINGLY negatively altering multiple pitchers’ career numbers and potentially costing them money in the future. Despicable.

Something tells me this isn't over and MLB may be forced to do more.

fordman84 · Jan 18, 2020

WastinSomeTime said:
Something tells me this isn't over and MLB may be forced to do more.

MLB will be forced to do more only if the opposing players decide to actually get their pound of flesh. It is going to take a manager or owner standing up to MLB and their "don't talk about this" order. Tell your pitchers you will cover their fines, but every time Altuve gets to the plate you put one in his ribs. Every time. And in the post game you say that you don't care the penalties, you will tell your pitchers to keep hitting him until the league steps in and punishes the players that benefited at the cost of the rest of the league, and you invite every pitcher in baseball to do the same.

Something drastic like that will have to happen, but as long as MLB thinks ignoring it will make it go away no one will be punished.

fordman84 · Jan 18, 2020

Kelleyman said:
It is astonishing to know with absolute certainty that the Astros organization cheated but not be able to indict one single player who cheated.

Total disconnect and an injustice to other players affected.

Someone was triggering the buzzer. I'm sure MLB knows who that was but knows they can't punish the players without unraveling years of cheating like this.

Kelleyman · Jan 18, 2020

fordman84 said:
Someone was triggering the buzzer. I'm sure MLB knows who that was but knows they can't punish the players without unraveling years of cheating like this.

That is what is a bit bizarre. MLB has this thorough investigation and declare with certainty that there was cheating but no one receives suspensions other than GM and coach who were not the hands on people. There has to be other coaches/workers besides Cora. Beltran is taking hit as a coach now. A lot of blanks remain unanswered.

This has legacy implications too. Let's say a guy like Springer was innocent but now he is guilty by association. Too much invisible here but how MLB handles umpires why should I be surprised.
Come across as fraternity or no disrespect intended good ol boy mentality.

Pretty short sighted too if they have to reopen investigation. Wonder what the spin is.

Kelleyman · Jan 18, 2020

20 years from now God willing we will look back at this day and see it as a historic dark time in baseball. Baseball history going down as we speak

Only plus personally is if Rangers win WS soon and we are the first Texas team to win an untainted WS.

saddles · Jan 18, 2020

8 years ago today we signed Yu.

scotsman1948 · Jan 18, 2020

WastinSomeTime said:
Something tells me this isn't over and MLB may be forced to do more.

eventually the MLB will have to take some form of action against players with suspensions etc

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