Lamar Jackson Defended....

There is A Moose at 3rd said:

I am sure the Ravens fans on this forum will react to this OP in an entirely calm and reasonable manner.

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Sharkonabicycle said:

Ravens fans on this forum wont say shit, because they deep down know that Lamar is on an EXTREMELY limited window and I'm accurate.

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Sharkonabicycle said:

Well no shit media outlets.. of course Harbaugh would defend his QB.

Harbaugh defends Jackson's playoff failure

Now I do find this rather amusing Harbaugh is talking about all time greats like Manning, Montana, Favre, Young, Rodgers, etc. and their playoff record...

There's a difference Hardouche.. they weren't going to be out of the league in < 5 or so years because none of them ran the football near as much, were actually good passers, and didn't take hits like Jackson does.

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Oldschool739 said:

LJ has been way over hyped like every black qb that wins a few games in the NFL these days...
He looks to be Mike Vick the sequel at this point, but that loss was not his fault IMO....
Harbs left out a few facts with his little excuse pep talk.....
1. This team as a whole , won 14 games beating the best team in the league along the way.
2. was #1 seed and highest scoring team in the league
3. got an extra week to rest and game plan
4. Home field advantage
5. top 3 D and best against the run
Everything you could ask for was in their favor
What does this outstanding HC do, let a 6 seed that barely made the playoffs, with a backup qb and a player trying to be a HC, beat the snot out of them in front of a home crowd....
He defended the qb and rightly so, but he should've apologized to the fans and his players for his no show effort to coach them to what should have been a breeze through .
He was out coached, and he let his players get out played because of his ineptness...
It's all on Harboob, plain and simple....

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Sharkonabicycle said:

I......

I'm at a loss.....

Would you please marry me? That's an extremely honest answer and accurately addresses points from a fan within a fanbase I'm criticizing. Overall, it makes complete sense to me. Great reply man, my work here is done...

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Cedrique said:

I can't get past the first line because I could not disagree more. Do you think if they ran this offense with a guy like Tim Tebow and he had the same success that he would be less hyped because he's white? I think there was more hype around Baker Mayfield this year until Jackson had some successes on the field, which he did early and often.

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Dr. Strangelove said:

I agree on Mayfield being far more hyped. And I wouldn't go so far as to say Lamar is another version of Michael Vick. I think Lamar has potential. But I agree with @Oldschool739 on Harbaugh in the rest of those points. Badly outcoached in that game. Gotta give the Titans some credit though. They found the weaknesses and exploited them just enough.

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blue_suns said:

lol I couldn't give 2 shits what people think about Lamar.

Lamar haters were M.I.A. for like 3 months after talking shit about him all offseason. Of course they wait until he has a bad game/loss to come out of hiding.

Young QB's struggling in playoff games isn't a new thing. The guy clearly made great strides as a passer after last year with room to get better with age. Not terribly worried about him tbh.

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Dr. Strangelove said:

I agree on Mayfield being far more hyped.

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boogiewithstu2007 said:

He's a talent , but he's gonna have to adjust and stop running so much, it's gonna catch up to him, he's gotta become more of a passer ... The runs will be there sometimes, take um, but being the young QB he is he tends to run way too much even when it's not there... He's fun to watch though, that's for sure...

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Jikkle said:

The fatal flaw the Ravens have is Greg Roman is an excellent run game coordinator but poor pass game coordinator and combined with Lamar still developing as a passer it leaves them in a bind when someone shuts down their running on offense.

In the playoffs especially you're almost always going to run into a team that shuts down what you do best and you've got to be able to win in other ways.

Last Sunday's Vikings vs 49ers game perfectly highlights that dynamic. The 9ers completely shutdown the outside zone and play action passing of the Vikings and after that the Vikings had nothing else to go to. The Vikings' defense started out by focusing on stopping the run and Shanahan just dialed up pass plays till they were forced to back off than he ran it down their throats until they stopped it which never happen so he kept running it.

That's what the Raven's offense is going to need to evolve into which being an offense that can tear you up running the ball and if you stop that Lamar can just cut you to shred throwing the ball with surgical precision.

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Jikkle said:

The fatal flaw the Ravens have is Greg Roman is an excellent run game coordinator but poor pass game coordinator and combined with Lamar still developing as a passer it leaves them in a bind when someone shuts down their running on offense.

In the playoffs especially you're almost always going to run into a team that shuts down what you do best and you've got to be able to win in other ways.

Last Sunday's Vikings vs 49ers game perfectly highlights that dynamic. The 9ers completely shutdown the outside zone and play action passing of the Vikings and after that the Vikings had nothing else to go to. The Vikings' defense started out by focusing on stopping the run and Shanahan just dialed up pass plays till they were forced to back off than he ran it down their throats until they stopped it which never happen so he kept running it.

That's what the Raven's offense is going to need to evolve into which being an offense that can tear you up running the ball and if you stop that Lamar can just cut you to shred throwing the ball with surgical precision.

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Stakesarehigh said:

I think Roman did a very good job designing an offense that highlights Lamars strengths.

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Jikkle said:

I agree Roman is great at designing a running based offense but it's fatal flaw right now is when the running game is slowed down like the Titans did this year and the Chargers did last he's not good at designing a passing attack to counter it.

And granted I don't want to put it all on Roman because Lamar himself is still developing as a passer but he was a run game coordinator at Standford and nothing I've seen from him when he was with the 9ers and up until now suggest he's creativity with the run game translates into the passing game.

His pass plays have always basic (in NFL terms) and I just don't think he's gifted in that way like a Shanahan or Payton who can cook up plays passing and running.

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Oldschool739 said:

LJ has been way over hyped like every black qb that wins a few games in the NFL these days...
He looks to be Mike Vick the sequel at this point, but that loss was not his fault IMO....
Harbs left out a few facts with his little excuse pep talk.....
1. This team as a whole , won 14 games beating the best team in the league along the way.
2. was #1 seed and highest scoring team in the league
3. got an extra week to rest and game plan
4. Home field advantage
5. top 3 D and best against the run
Everything you could ask for was in their favor
What does this outstanding HC do, let a 6 seed that barely made the playoffs, with a backup qb and a player trying to be a HC, beat the snot out of them in front of a home crowd....
He defended the qb and rightly so, but he should've apologized to the fans and his players for his no show effort to coach them to what should have been a breeze through .
He was out coached, and he let his players get out played because of his ineptness...
It's all on Harboob, plain and simple....

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