The Irishman (2019)

Sgt Brutus · Dec 13, 2019

One of the best films I’ve seen this year

Pacino does a great job

Ojb81 · Dec 13, 2019

California Creme Puffs said:
Yes, I do.

You're either a Millennial or Gen X dumb fuck who doesn't understand nor is capable of appreciating nuanced art. You are likely one of the tens of millions of dumb fucks who just can't sit still when watching a movie and has to check their goddamn phones every 10 minutes while watching a film- damaging any other nearby viewers' experience of the film- and then complains to others about how the film (or TV show; I mean it's not like you know the difference) was boring.

I mean, I'll level with you. I'm drunk as fuck and I was born in 1997. I've been surrounded my whole life with anti-art and anti-cinema twats. And I grew up in the Delaware Valley, probably the same as you judging by your fandom of Philadelphia sports team. So, I've been around a lot of you fucks and naturally, I come off a bit cranky.

But, in all truth and objectivity, it is one thing to dislike The Irishman. That is a totally reasonable take that I get. I mean, I hate Casino, The Last Temptation of Christ, and New York, New York and two of those three films are regarded as among Scorsese's best.

But it's another thing to suggest that The Irishman be converted into a three-part TV series. Another thing entirely. It means that you're an anti-intellectual, cellphone-addicted, Venmo-paying, vape-blowing, Uber-riding, millennial cocksucking fucktard who should, if the gods were so gracious, be taken out back and shot. I respect Hitler more than you because while Hitler was directly responsible for the deaths of >10 million people, he never fucking opined that The Irishman should be a fucking three-part TV series.

Godbless you, @omar382. Never change

Sparhawk · Dec 13, 2019

California Creme Puffs said:
Yes, I do.

You're either a Millennial or Gen X dumb fuck who doesn't understand nor is capable of appreciating nuanced art. You are likely one of the tens of millions of dumb fucks who just can't sit still when watching a movie and has to check their goddamn phones every 10 minutes while watching a film- damaging any other nearby viewers' experience of the film- and then complains to others about how the film (or TV show; I mean it's not like you know the difference) was boring.

I mean, I'll level with you. I'm drunk as fuck and I was born in 1997. I've been surrounded my whole life with anti-art and anti-cinema twats. And I grew up in the Delaware Valley, probably the same as you judging by your fandom of Philadelphia sports team. So, I've been around a lot of you fucks and naturally, I come off a bit cranky.

But, in all truth and objectivity, it is one thing to dislike The Irishman. That is a totally reasonable take that I get. I mean, I hate Casino, The Last Temptation of Christ, and New York, New York and two of those three films are regarded as among Scorsese's best.

But it's another thing to suggest that The Irishman be converted into a three-part TV series. Another thing entirely. It means that you're an anti-intellectual, cellphone-addicted, Venmo-paying, vape-blowing, Uber-riding, millennial cocksucking fucktard who should, if the gods were so gracious, be taken out back and shot. I respect Hitler more than you because while Hitler was directly responsible for the deaths of >10 million people, he never fucking opined that The Irishman should be a fucking three-part TV series.

Tell us how you really feel...

Orlando Eagles · Dec 13, 2019

Ok. I finally got it all pounded out.

I honestly came in with lower expectations. I just couldn’t see this working. So it was better than I thought and is a totally justified 7/10.

It’s not Scorsese’s best. He’s surely winding down too. But, Netflix brings you a boatload of money to make something to counter Disney + and you take it and do it. The very Scorsese shots and use of music are very much there. Some of the more famous places used (Umbertos for example) just didn’t look right. Especially when they use news footage from the actual shooting right after the scene at Umbertos. But....minor things.

The aging these guys down was noticeable for sure. But it did not pull me out of the movie like I thought it would.

DeNiro was very good. Pacino was....about what you’re going to get out of Pacino anymore. But, I have to say, I thought Pesci was sublime. He was fantastic as Russ Buffalino.

And also hats off (pun intended) to them casting Lois from Goodfellas as Jo Hoffa!

Clayton · Jan 1, 2020

It could be recency bias but I think this is Scorsese's best movie.

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This was way easier to get through than True Detective Season 3. Three hours well spent.

Clayton · Jan 1, 2020

So I think my favorite part about this movie is how it subverts the mafia family image by simply denying you access to family. De Niro is a guy with 4 daughters, an ex-wife and a wife and you never get a romanticized idea of him having some sort of redeeming qualities. De Niro is caught up with the gangster lifestyle. His family is the Union Thugs who are a bunch of narcissists and sociopaths and he is right there with them. The opening to the movie sets this up perfectly with De Niro making 2 guys dig their graves and he was always impressed at how hard they were digging when he was the guy with the gun. He then almost immediately admits that he is always afraid of dying as if he doesn't even see anything beyond dog-eat-dog. About an hour or so goes by and the wife gets fired and out of nowhere you get just a tiny glimpse of the wife's perspective as she tries to work out whether or not her car is going to explode and its awesome. You then have the daughter who has like only one word in the whole movie and a bunch of glances. Outside of that, they might as well be furniture but you can tell that it wears on the him at the end. He does actually care about the people around him and you see De Niro try and work out the betrayal of Hoffa in his head for quite a long time but ultimately he does what he is told.

The script is great. DeNiro plays to his strengths, Pacino plays to old-man Pacino strengths. Pesci isn't playing his normal role but he does the best acting of the group. And because all of the family time is cut out of the movie, its 3 hours of no-filler. You get 4 or 5 solid scenes with Deniro and Pacino together. You get at least an hour of Pesci and Deniro together.

I could go on...I enjoyed it a lot.

michaeljordan_fan · Jan 6, 2020

Pesci steals the show, but it was well-acted all around.

Wazmankg · Jan 6, 2020

michaeljordan_fan said:
Pesci steals the show, but it was well-acted all around.

Agreed.

Orlando Eagles · Jan 7, 2020

michaeljordan_fan said:
Pesci steals the show, but it was well-acted all around.

Watched it a second time over the break and loved it all the more. The jarring aspect of the CGI de aging and the fact they still walk like old men dropped dramatically on second view for me.

Really good performances. But Pesci stood out all the more for his performance. In Goodfellas and Casino he plays a hothead with a Napoleon complex. And he plays it well.

In this one he goes a completely different way. And it’s as good if not better.

Orlando Eagles · Jan 26, 2020

So I grabbed “I Heard You Paint Houses” on Audible and gave it a listen recently.

The crux of the story told in the book matches extremely well to what the movie showed. Except for the book doesn’t spend as much time on the daughter. I guess at 3.5 hours for a movie you can do all that.

The bonus at the end is the authors pretty strong case that this is absolutely what happened to Hoffa. He’s a former prosecutor and lays out the case well. It’s not perfect (nothing 30 years old would be) but I am often a proponent that the more simple explanations are the reality. And this is EXACTLY how the Mafia would have handled a high profile guy shooting his mouth off.

I’ve been a strong follower of the Hoffa mystery for a long time and this satisfies it for me. Frank Sheeren waxed him and he was cremated immediately.

Bonus to it was he did a solid deep dive and case on Joey Gallo and I super inclined to believe Frank did that too.

Stakesarehigh · Jan 26, 2020

Really liked it I thought it was a little drawn out in spots but solid performances

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