2019/2020 OFF SEASON THREAD

NWinAZ · Dec 11, 2019

SeattleCoug said:
That makes sense if the rebuild was still going to take a few more years. Dipoto wants to compete in 12 months. Classic case of saying one thing and doing another. You cant have it both ways. Thats why I am turned off, because there still is no solid plan here.

You are way too smart to believe we are anything close to competing next year. DIPoto just like a magician trying to have you keep your eye on the ball while he pulls something from his sleeve....usually a turd.

NWinAZ · Dec 11, 2019

NWinAZ · Dec 11, 2019

mcnabb7542 · Dec 12, 2019

NWinAZ said:

So explain to me on this, if they don't use the pick then it just saves them cash correct?

SeattleCoug · Dec 12, 2019

NWinAZ said:
You are way too smart to believe we are anything close to competing next year. DIPoto just like a magician trying to have you keep your eye on the ball while he pulls something from his sleeve....usually a turd.

My assumption is nothing has really changed. (Shocking right). Build for the future and try and compete as cheaply and easy as possible. Basically continue to reserve that nice comfy spot on the fence and sit there. Maybe there are some fans still fooled by that but after 20 years a lot of us arent naive idiots anymore

mcnabb7542 · Dec 12, 2019

RHP Yohan Ramirez from the Astro's is the selection!

srf1957 · Dec 12, 2019

Looks like a pick that will be returned to Astros . No control .

NWinAZ · Dec 12, 2019

mcnabb7542 said:
So explain to me on this, if they don't use the pick then it just saves them cash correct?

No, I believe it gives them more to spend on the draft. More picks, more spending money allotted. So at #6, there may be a top talent passed on by the other 5 picks because of signability issues but with the extra money M's might be able to buy him away from college. Same goes with the new pick obviously.

There is actually a cap on spending of draft picks which to me is just nuts.

NWinAZ · Dec 12, 2019

Video of Rule 5 Pick.

mcnabb7542 said:
RHP Yohan Ramirez from the Astro's is the selection!

SeattleCoug · Dec 12, 2019

NWinAZ said:
Video of Rule 5 Pick.

why am im not suprised Dipoto took this kind of reliever.

mcnabb7542 · Dec 12, 2019

NWinAZ said:
Video of Rule 5 Pick.

Yeah but some times those wild cards are fun to watch !

Duders · Dec 12, 2019

NWinAZ · Dec 12, 2019

Rosenthal: With market for third basemen heating up,...

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NWinAZ · Dec 12, 2019

NWinAZ said:
Rosenthal: With market for third basemen heating up,...

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Multiple Clubs Interested In Kyle Seager

By Connor Byrne | December 12, 2019 at 9:00pm CDT

Although he has earned a reputation as a trade-happy general manager, the Mariners’ Jerry Dipoto hasn’t swung many significant deals yet this offseason. He could add to his list of trades soon, however, as Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (subscription link) reports that multiple clubs are showing interest in Mariners third baseman Kyle Seager.

Seager has an undesirable clause in his contract that could scuttle a deal, as his $15MM club option for 2022 will turn into a player option if he’s traded. However, Seager may be open to amending that, per Rosenthal, who suggests that he’d rather play for a winner than a rebuilding team (Seattle) and could give up his option rights if an acquiring team’s willing to hand him more money upfront. Alternatively, the Mariners could just include cash in the deal and/or attach a good prospect in an effort to offset the player option, Rosenthal notes.

As of now, Seager’s due a guaranteed $37MM over the next two seasons. That would’ve looked like a wholly unappealing sum 12 months ago, at which point the typically productive Seager was coming off the worst year of his career. But Seager put himself back on the map with a 2.9-fWAR 2019 in which he batted .239/.321/.468 (110 wRC+) and swatted 23 home runs in 443 plate appearances. Now, with teams such as the Nationals, Braves, Twins and Rangers among those seeking third basemen, they could turn to Seager if they don’t sign Josh Donaldson or find a way to pry Kris Bryantfrom the Cubs.

mcnabb7542 · Dec 13, 2019

NWinAZ said:
Multiple Clubs Interested In Kyle Seager

By Connor Byrne | December 12, 2019 at 9:00pm CDT

Although he has earned a reputation as a trade-happy general manager, the Mariners’ Jerry Dipoto hasn’t swung many significant deals yet this offseason. He could add to his list of trades soon, however, as Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (subscription link) reports that multiple clubs are showing interest in Mariners third baseman Kyle Seager.

Seager has an undesirable clause in his contract that could scuttle a deal, as his $15MM club option for 2022 will turn into a player option if he’s traded. However, Seager may be open to amending that, per Rosenthal, who suggests that he’d rather play for a winner than a rebuilding team (Seattle) and could give up his option rights if an acquiring team’s willing to hand him more money upfront. Alternatively, the Mariners could just include cash in the deal and/or attach a good prospect in an effort to offset the player option, Rosenthal notes.

As of now, Seager’s due a guaranteed $37MM over the next two seasons. That would’ve looked like a wholly unappealing sum 12 months ago, at which point the typically productive Seager was coming off the worst year of his career. But Seager put himself back on the map with a 2.9-fWAR 2019 in which he batted .239/.321/.468 (110 wRC+) and swatted 23 home runs in 443 plate appearances. Now, with teams such as the Nationals, Braves, Twins and Rangers among those seeking third basemen, they could turn to Seager if they don’t sign Josh Donaldson or find a way to pry Kris Bryantfrom the Cubs.

God they are gonna have to eat a lot of $$$ if they trade him and the value back wont be greater then a bag of balls.

SeattleCoug · Dec 13, 2019

Here's the problem.

Trading Seagar now after he had a decent second half absolutely makes sense. Does it have to happen now for salary relief? Absolutely not. I would be otherworldly upset if we traded a prospect to move Seagars contract. The payroll which I posted somewhere in this thread i think or another, is under $100 mill as is. And since the only free agents we are signing is via dumpster diving, we DONT HAVE TO shed salary. You trade Seagar if it provides value to the team. Salary relief is not value to the team currently, prospect return is. So i ask you again Dipoto, please try and hold the fucking cards on this one.

NWinAZ · Dec 13, 2019

mcnabb7542 said:
God they are gonna have to eat a lot of $$$ if they trade him and the value back wont be greater then a bag of balls.

Which is more than it was back in June.

mcnabb7542 · Dec 13, 2019

Once Donaldson signs the market could get very interesting for Kyle, I don’t know if you can get a solid player back and have to eat Kyles contract might have to pull the trigger on this

ulmax · Dec 16, 2019

Ex mariners pitcher taijuan walker..
Are the mariners interested
After ..t.j.and shoulder prob
He was..non tendered.by D backs
Heck..at tacoma..or..mlb..i would..give him..a try..

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ulmax · Dec 16, 2019

I get what Rosenthal is saying

Let me get this strait...give up seager..and a prospect..and eat cash...
For what..more prospects..

Sure give up seager and cash..maybe...

But either one seems far fetched
Unless it is for a..AAA starting
Pitcher...
That is ready..for mlb..now

Then..the mariners would .need a 3b
Noooooo
More..
Fleeesing
The
Mariners..
Rosey

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