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Is Tom Brady really the greatest QB of all time?

NEhomer

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Peyton Manning, then everyone else. He wasn't a system QB, he WAS the system. He controlled the entire NFL with his brain alone. The way he commanded the line of scrimmage was something magical. It didn't matter who was in front of him. A pass rush wasn't getting to him. Then his unhuman accuracy basically ended the game before it even started.

Added bonus, he wasn't a bitch. Tough as the next guy. He's sorely missed.

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Rivers' stance is precisely the stance I've always held. Wins are a TEAM stat, not a player stat - particularly in a sport where one player is 1/53 of the equation (not counting coaches & management). It's asinine to crown a player the "Greatest" because of team accomplishments. And his citation of the SEA-NE Super Bowl is spot-on too.

Brady is one of the best; not necessarily the best.

This ^^^^^

IMO...he’s not the most talented, but the most accomplished in terms of winning championships...GOAT in any one position doesn’t really mean that much to me in football.

It’s good for discussion forums, and the media, but this ain’t boxing or golf...takes a complete team to win championships at the highest level.
 

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Hey, he didn't get to play against a Brady-lead team in the first round every year.

He would have played Brady more often in the 2nd round if he didn't play like a choking dog in the first round :nod:
 

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Are we talking about just the Patriots?

Or do you mean the AFC East?

If we're going Patriots, I'd say Steve Grogan.

If we're talking about the whole division I'd say Dan Marino.

If we were talking about the greatest QB of all time for the NFL (obviously we're not) that answer is obvious.

Peyton Manning. Period.

Should we lock this thread now?
 

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Are we talking about just the Patriots?

Or do you mean the AFC East?

If we're going Patriots, I'd say Steve Grogan.

If we're talking about the whole division I'd say Dan Marino.

If we were talking about the greatest QB of all time for the NFL (obviously we're not) that answer is obvious.

Peyton Manning. Period.

Should we lock this thread now?

Should we lock this thread now?

If you never got overly emotional and needed to retreat from the site to therapy, you could have locked it yourself.
 

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Brady isn't even eligible for consideration.
 

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Are we talking about just the Patriots?

Or do you mean the AFC East?

If we're going Patriots, I'd say Steve Grogan.

If we're talking about the whole division I'd say Dan Marino.

If we were talking about the greatest QB of all time for the NFL (obviously we're not) that answer is obvious.

Peyton Manning. Period.

Should we lock this thread now?

You missed one of his stats that may never be broken.
The number of games won and lost in the confines of a nice cozy dome.
 

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Brady isn't even eligible for consideration.
IMO, you at least have to put him in the discussion somewhere behind Steve Grogan, Drew Bledsoe and Jim Plunkett.
 

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IMO, you at least have to put him in the discussion somewhere behind Steve Grogan, Drew Bledsoe and Jim Plunkett.

Can you explain your feelings for us? It's very interesting.

I would think Reche Caldwell's gift to Peyton in 2006 would have healed some of your hurt.
 

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LOL...

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IMO, you at least have to put him in the discussion somewhere behind Steve Grogan, Drew Bledsoe and Jim Plunkett.

At least you have him ahead of Tony Eason. You’re making progress! :thumb:
 

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Are we talking about just the Patriots?

Or do you mean the AFC East?

If we're going Patriots, I'd say Steve Grogan.

If we're talking about the whole division I'd say Dan Marino.

If we were talking about the greatest QB of all time for the NFL (obviously we're not) that answer is obvious.

Peyton Manning. Period.

Should we lock this thread now?
I had Marino as the best of the best until Manning's career
 
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