Saints or Steelers - Who is in trouble more without their QB

steelparrot · Sep 16, 2019

Oh we screwed pretty good i would say

packerzrule · Sep 17, 2019

Steelers

bksballer89 · Sep 17, 2019

packerzrule said:
Steelers

It is the obvious answer.

1 QB is out for the season and the other is returning at the halfway mark of the season.

NFL-Solomon · Sep 17, 2019

redseat said:
Simple question (and I apologize if this has already be asked) but

Which team is more "screwed" with their QB going down?

Steelers or Saints?

I was just inquiring as to when you completely lost your fucking mind?
Bring back Hammerdown?
That's like asking to bring back Smallpox.

MilkSpiller22 · Sep 17, 2019

the easy answer is the saints...

The Steelers were not seen to be a Superbowl favourite,

The Saints were...

so the saints are more screwed...

With that said, I think that the saints will do better with Bridgewater than The steelers will with Rudolph

Cedrique · Sep 17, 2019

Is Taysom Hill going to start now or is Sean Payton finally ready to admit that he's only been doing that shit for the last 2 years to piss off fantasy football nerds?

On a side note, when I saw the Steelers traded for Minkah Fitzpatrick last night there was that split second where I read it and thought they had acquired "Fitzmagic"

mr.hockey4242 · Sep 17, 2019

How is this a question much less a toss up in responses??

Ben is out for year

Brees 6 games

molsaniceman · Sep 17, 2019

bksballer89 said:
People are basically judging Teddy because he was thrown in the game with basically no practice reps with the 1's on the road against one of the best teams in football lmao.

You guys can't possibly be this silly.

Damn near every backup will fail in that situation.

brady 5/10 for 46 yards in relief of bledsoe :suds:

Saints have a D that will keep them in games Steelers not so much

CaptainStubing · Sep 17, 2019

steelers. bridgewater is less of a step down from Brees than rudolph from Ben.

Brees hasn't been able to throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield for quite a while now.

Debbie Does · Sep 17, 2019

Screwed how? For this season, or into the future?

Saints could have been a contender, and might narrowly make the playoffs, but only if Brees comes back and is healthy.

Steelers didn't look like champions this year. My guess is that Big Ben is done and will hopefully retire before the draft so Pittsburgh can look for a replacement.

Schmoopy1000 · Sep 17, 2019

CaptainStubing said:
steelers. bridgewater is less of a step down from Brees than rudolph from Ben.

Brees hasn't been able to throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield for quite a while now.

Drew Brees has a 75% cmp pct. of passes over 15 yds (air yards) this year. LOL
Only one with a higher pct. is Nick foles but is only 2 for 2 before his injury.

People trying to spin things like he has lost a step, his arm is weak, has been quite funny to me.

CaptainStubing · Sep 17, 2019

Schmoopy1000 said:
Drew Brees has a 75% cmp pct. of passes over 15 yds (air yards) this year. LOL
Only one with a higher pct. is Nick foles but is only 2 for 2 before his injury.

People trying to spin things like he has lost a step, his arm is weak, has been quite funny to me.

How Many attempts compared to others?

Schmoopy1000 · Sep 17, 2019

CaptainStubing said:
How Many attempts compared to others?

let me pull it up. I am tracking all Qbs on this stat this year.

CaptainStubing · Sep 17, 2019

Schmoopy1000 said:
let me pull it up. I am tracking all Qbs on this stat this year.

We could also look at last year for a bigger sample size since he didn't play much this year

Carnzo · Sep 17, 2019

Saints waving a chance to go to the SB goodbye.

Schmoopy1000 · Sep 17, 2019

Brees is 6 of 8 over 15 yards.

Maybe most impressive right now is rivers (he has a lot of attempts with a good cmp pct.)
Rivers 13 of 20 65% 1 TD 1 INT

11 QBs has more completions but only 3 of them are above 60%

Rivers see above

Dak 8 of 11 72.73% 4TDs 1 INT If ball does bounce out of cobbs hands for INT would have been 80%
Brady 8 of 11 72.73% 2 TDs 0 INTs

other QBs over 60%

Gardner Minshew 5/8 62.5% 0 TDs 1 INT
Jacoby Brissett 5/8 62.5% 1 TD 0 INT
Nick Foles 2/2 100% 1 TD 0 INT
Luke Falk 2/3 66.67% 0/0

Most of the guys with a lot of attempts have poor cmp pct. since they are weaker teams in desperation mode.

on a side note
the Phenom with super arm talent is
5 of 17 29.41% 2 TDs 2 INTs (Eli has a better pct. :heh:

)

I would just post the entire list every week, but havent figured out how to post the pic of it on here.
Tried in week 1. But apparently I am too stupid to figure it out LOL

Anyhow Drew brees was accurate as fuck over 15 yds last week
he & Rivers were 6 of 7 over 15 yards. 85.71% Which is the point I am making. IF he didnt go out at start of week 2, he probably be top 3 in comp. over 15 yards with a high pct.

Schmoopy1000 · Sep 17, 2019

CaptainStubing said:
We could also look at last year for a bigger sample size since he didn't play much this year

well I didnt track it last year so that would be a lot of homework to start from scratch LOL

Schmoopy1000 · Sep 17, 2019

just saw this on another thread. Obviously it was after week 1 because Mahomes was on the least side but did nothing but throw long in week 2 (16 times)
but here it is (shows Drew Brees throwing more air yards than most the NFL) of the 4 only Brees had a good cmp pct.

Battlelyon said:
Very telling

CaptainStubing · Sep 17, 2019

Schmoopy1000 said:
just saw this on another thread. Obviously it was after week 1 because Mahomes was on the least side but did nothing but throw long in week 2 (16 times)
but here it is (shows Drew Brees throwing more air yards than most the NFL) of the 4 only Brees had a good cmp pct.

looking at 2018, Brees average intended air yards was way low compared to other starters. Their offense now is most definitely dink and dunk. Brees doesn't stretch the field as much as other QB's.

NGS | NFL Next Gen Stats

Schmoopy1000 · Sep 17, 2019

CaptainStubing said:
looking at 2018, Brees average intended air yards was way low compared to other starters. Their offense now is most definitely dink and dunk. Brees doesn't stretch the field as much as other QB's.

NGS | NFL Next Gen Stats

not sure what I was staring at. But I will take your word for it.
thing is the Saints were a balanced offense. Dink & dunk is most good teams nowadays. Unless you are always plaaying from behind no reason to do it a ton.
My question is. How well did he throw, when he did throw over 15 yds. Is he still good at it, or was he struggling?

PE1 was saying Dak sucked at the long ball because he didnt do it a lot. he didnt have too. Not doing it a lot doesnt mean you have a weak arm or cant make the throw. How successful you are when you do it is a way better barometer.

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