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dtgold88

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seriously...?

laughing because you actually believe NFL refs affect outcomes more...

sorry, not buying...
When it comes to one call I agree with him. One bad call will affect the NFL game more. But overall we are on the same page. Because of the nature of the sports I think more calls are missed in the NBA and LB.
 

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When it comes to one call I agree with him. One bad call will affect the NFL game more. But overall we are on the same page. Because of the nature of the sports I think more calls are missed in the NBA and LB.
The balls and strikes calls even out generally.

Football refs affect who wins the game more. And they even have their own version of an umpires subjective strike zone, sometimes refs call a tight game, sometimes they "let them play". It's said that on almost every play there's technically a holding, and almost always some kind of illegal contact in the secondary. But if they called everything by the book games would take 5 hours.

So I'm still quite sure football officiating is more important to game outcomes than other sports.
 

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seriously...?

laughing because you actually believe NFL refs affect outcomes more...

sorry, not buying...
No need to apologise, you not agreeing with me doesn't make me any less correct. In fact it probably helps my case:D
 

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No need to apologise, you not agreeing with me doesn't make me any less correct. In fact it probably helps my case:D

well, i believe you're dead wrong. so if that SOMEHOW " helps your case" roll with that...

it's America. you're entitled to your oddball opinions...:dhd:
 

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And as I already replied, a missed ball or strike call doesn't affect the whole game outcome the way a missed fumble or bad/missed pass interference call does. I stand by it, refs are most powerful in football.

And as also mentioned, robot umpires are coming

Saw that after my post. However, it's not as simple as a missed ball or strike. The umpire literally decides how pitchers pitch and what hitters have to swing at. That's for the entire game.

And if strike zone is inconsistent, it has an even bigger affect.
 

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sometimes refs call a tight game, sometimes they "let them play".

And the same can be said about basketball refs and umpires in baseball. Some refs in basketball call everything and some "let them play". In baseball some umps have a big strike zone, others have a smaller one.
 

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Better watch out, fellas. Dolphins going to have all of the 1st round picks by the time the season's over.....and still fuck it up.
 

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Better watch out, fellas. Dolphins going to have all of the 1st round picks by the time the season's over.....and still fuck it up.
i cant believe the Steelers made that deal without Big Ben.

That could end up being a top 12 pick very easily. Especially if the Browns and Ravens take care of business against them.

Dolphins are gonna own the draft. As a Browns fan- i remmeber those days- when the draft was by far the biggest day of the year.
 

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Myles Garret is a BEAST.

OBJ - no one was catching him.

Cleaned up a lot of stuff this week, but still a long way to go.
 

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Myles Garret is a BEAST.

OBJ - no one was catching him.

Cleaned up a lot of stuff this week, but still a long way to go.

The offense looked horrible. If they dont play better than they did these first 2 weeks on offense then they're going to have a rough time winning more than 1 of their next 5. Baker looked like shit once agai
 

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You take the win of course but man they have to play much better if they plan on beating the rams, ravens, 49ers, Seahawks, & pats
 

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Myles Garret is a BEAST.

OBJ - no one was catching him.

Cleaned up a lot of stuff this week, but still a long way to go.

I'm not saying I called that Wiggy would return exactly when the Browns won a game....oh who am I kidding, I am saying that.

Welcome back! Jets suck but you guys are still going to be a fun, good team. Steelers toast, just you and the Ravens.
 

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Better watch out, fellas. Dolphins going to have all of the 1st round picks by the time the season's over.....and still fuck it up.

Jets look like shit too. First ever division with TWO 0-16 teams? (Fins and Jets)
 

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Saw that after my post. However, it's not as simple as a missed ball or strike. The umpire literally decides how pitchers pitch and what hitters have to swing at. That's for the entire game.

And if strike zone is inconsistent, it has an even bigger affect.

I gotta say, I'm either too high or not high enough to figure out why I can't get my point across.

All I'm saying is, NFL games get decided by one blown call all the time. Has that ever happened in any important MLB game? 1 NFL game = 10 MLB games...10 games blown by a bad strike zone call?
 
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