POLL The Zeke Elliot Fiasco

jarntt · Aug 24, 2019

PhoenixEagles1 said:
Could you please amplify...

HE'S LIKE 0.5 WAR :suds:

jarntt · Aug 24, 2019

PhoenixEagles1 said:
Yeah, I just wanted to use a quote from GodFather We shall see. I just think theres something extra special about him. He just like one of those dudes where youre up 5 with 6 minutes to go and you giver him the ball 9 straight times and he runs the clock out. But they have a fantastic run blocking line maybe they dont need to invest heavily at RB. Really I dont know but I think they suffer a bit without him... unless this new kid is as good as everyone is saying.
Could you imagine if Zeke sits and Pollard runs for 178 and 212 the first two games. Zeke will shit himself.

Pollard may be fantastic in spurts and he may even be a Kamara type (not saying as good but similar type skill set) but I suspect he will never be Zeke. Zeke is a legit superstar. But he still shouldn't get $15M a year two years early and with his off the field issues and certainly not by doing it the wrong way and holding out. Next year? Sure if he is still great and stops getting into trouble. :2cents:

SteelersPride · Aug 24, 2019

PhoenixEagles1 said:
Yeah, I just wanted to use a quote from GodFather We shall see. I just think theres something extra special about him. He just like one of those dudes where youre up 5 with 6 minutes to go and you giver him the ball 9 straight times and he runs the clock out. But they have a fantastic run blocking line maybe they dont need to invest heavily at RB. Really I dont know but I think they suffer a bit without him... unless this new kid is as good as everyone is saying.
Could you imagine if Zeke sits and Pollard runs for 178 and 212 the first two games. Zeke will shit himself.

It can happen they have a good line.

Manster7588 · Aug 24, 2019

SteelersPride said:
It can happen they have a good line.

Yep, and I'm banking on that line. Zeke makes the team better no doubt, but there's enough talent across the team where Zeke sitting ends the season
Now Zeke sitting and Dak or an OLine man or 2 out, I'd say yes it's over. With Zeke the team might be able to afford a loss or two up front.

eaglesnut · Aug 24, 2019

SteelersPride said:
and they are a dime a dozen, you can pick one off the street and him run for 100+ 3 days later, we saw that last year. #RBDontmatter. Metrics back it up. All of your what if statements, and this and that are meaningless unless you actually bring some real data. Your just spewing mindless BS

You must be deranged if you think a random 100 yard day refutes anything. You can't even grasp the difference between the real backs and the fake backs that can't hack it. Yet you want to yap about it. Pretty sad.

eaglesnut · Aug 24, 2019

SteelersPride said:
right the steelers missed the playoffs because they didnt have bell........you really do have holes in your brain....

Did you think I forgot how the Steelers PR team messed your brain up? Lol, this topic is above you.

eaglesnut · Aug 24, 2019

Schmoopy1000 said:
LOL
Love when someone looks at something in a vacuum.

Mike Tomlin and Ben being terrible leaders is a part of the equation. Of course that's also related to the Bell situation and how extremely useful backs like Bell and Zeke get fucked financially by the league compared to their peers. You should at least understand that.

SteelersPride · Aug 24, 2019

eaglesnut said:
You must be deranged if you think a random 100 yard day refutes anything. You can't even grasp the difference between the real backs and the fake backs that can't hack it. Yet you want to yap about it. Pretty sad.

pretty sad u cant acknowledge facts. Its ok. We understand.

eaglesnut said:
Did you think I forgot how the Steelers PR team messed your brain up? Lol, this topic is above you.

thats the best you have? your grasping .........

Schmoopy1000 · Aug 24, 2019

eaglesnut said:
Mike Tomlin and Ben being terrible leaders is a part of the equation. Of course that's also related to the Bell situation and how extremely useful backs like Bell and Zeke get fucked financially by the league compared to their peers. You should at least understand that.

RBs do get screwed. That I agree.
but I am not gonna blame a team for that. If one team doesnt take advantage. That literally gives the other 31 teams an advantage over them. Only way that will change is if they change some rules.

Funny when talking about the team. You only hear either how they are screwing a player or how they are overpaying the player.

SteelersPride · Aug 24, 2019

RUNNING BACKS 2018 | Football Outsiders

analytics........man im out of my league......

Schmoopy1000 · Aug 24, 2019

SteelersPride said:
RUNNING BACKS 2018 | Football Outsiders

analytics........man im out of my league......

not sure what I am reading on here.
but what I take from it is.....
Zeke should only get paid top ten money according to this :becky:

SteelersPride · Aug 24, 2019

Schmoopy1000 said:
not sure what I am reading on here.
but what I take from it is.....
Zeke should only get paid top ten money according to this

if that.
@There is A Moose at 3rd can provide some realllly nice metrics.

Hank Kingsley · Aug 25, 2019

I wouldn't pay him. No way.

JJ might though because his team has a shot this year.

Wazmankg · Aug 25, 2019

No clue, if I have to guess I guess Jones caves. In the NFL, with few guarantees, these guys have to get it while they can by any means necessary, so I don't fault Zeke at all.

HaroldSeattle · Aug 25, 2019

Schmoopy1000 said:
RBs do get screwed. That I agree.

Yes they do, but on the other hand QBs get massively over paid. Until the CBA gets change, teams have to deal with the CBA in place.

fordman84 · Aug 25, 2019

If Zeke doesn't report by week one, seeing us stomp the Giants and all his teammates having fun then he is going to report. No chance he misses out on chances to have fun and party. I'd say it hurts his brand, but that's not true for Zeke.

Schmoopy1000 · Aug 25, 2019

Zeke didnt have a single carry last year either.
I would like for him to be in camp to be in football shape, but sounds like he is doing his best to be as close to football shape as he can while not being here. Still think he ends up here by Week 1. So he can work on his 1400+yds again.

wood20ks · Aug 25, 2019

eaglesnut said:
All the RBs are supposed to get paid. They are all being fucked. They get hit the most and get the smallest piece of the pie every year.

That would be the dline and oline.....Thats where it all starts and ends......

eaglesnut · Aug 26, 2019

wood20ks said:
That would be the dline and oline.....Thats where it all starts and ends......

Yeah, that's why they're the biggest bodies on the field. And when compared to RBs, the good linemen are getting paid for their work.

Stakesarehigh · Aug 26, 2019

Rock Strongo said:
I tend to side with zeke on this. Running backs are being devalued in football these days, particularly first-round draft picks. Teams essentially run them into the ground and have the flexibility to avoid a major payday with a fifth-year option and up to two franchise tags.

He's arguably the best RB in football, and is involved in something crazy like 90% of the teams offensive snaps.

How does this end?

That is basically the issue. After a seventh season a guy with Zeke's wear is pushing late 20's with two tags and his market value is basically shot.

POLL The Zeke Elliot Fiasco

How does this fiasco end?

Zeke caves, reports, and honors his contract.

Jerry Jones caves, signs Zeke to an extension.

Zeke holds out for the year or longer.

All aboard the Jerry Jones grab ass bus for potato salad.

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