My top 25 QBs of all time

Ricky Roma · Jul 23, 2019

Shanemansj13 said:
Average...other than his short playoff runs that were great that's what he is. One stat isn't everything but lets look at QB Rating...

Out of 30 NFL Qb's

2018 - 21st
2017 - 25th
2016 - 22nd
2015 - 13th
2014 - 15th
2013 - 35th..backup Qb's were better. This is sad. Played 16 games too.
2012 - 14th
2011 - 7th
2010 - 17th
2009 - 11th
2008 - 15th
2007 - 25th
2006 - 18th
2005 - 23rd
2004 - Started 7 games

This was actually worse than I anticipated. He can't be a top 25 QB when he isn't even a top 15 QB in the league RIGHT NOW in this generation. This is pathetic. You using passing TD's and yards pretty much says it all...you have nothing else to backup why he is worthy for this list...shit worthy for a top 75 QB list.

Top 10 QB Rating ONCE in his CAREER and it wasn't even top 5. Like I said, one stat doesn't say everything but this is a pretty telling stat that he was really average to below average in most of his career.

QB Rating can be a bit tricky, but I generally agree with your point. Eli Manning has been an average to above-average QB for his entire career. At no point was he considered a top 3/top 5 guy, and those guys are the true HOF players. There simply is no legit argument for Eli to be in the HOF, and there never will be.

That's not to say he won't get it.

Shanemansj13 · Jul 23, 2019

Wamu said:
Eli is the definition of average. But there's not a QB w/ 110+ wins, 55,000+ yards, 350+ TD's & 2 S.B. mvp's that's been left outta the HOF.

Which is why they will probably put him in. He doesn't belong though

Shanemansj13 · Jul 23, 2019

eaglesnut said:
QB rating is a made up combination of real stats.

In other words

Shut the Fuck up.

If you could read I said not one stat can define a player but regardless Eli is average. Nothing is top 10 QB about him...right now...nothing is top 25 QB of all-time about him.

Your logic: He has a lot of passing yards and TD's ain't cutting it kid

broncosmitty · Jul 23, 2019

rmilia1 said:
10 of the Top 18 all time in INTs are on my list lol

Sure.

And #1 is Top 5.

broncosmitty · Jul 23, 2019

Shanemansj13 said:
Which is why they will probably put him in. He doesn't belong though

I kinda think he does tbh.

He's not in my Top 25 for sure.

But I were to go rogue and start my own Hall, Id save a spot for him. Eventually.

broncosmitty · Jul 23, 2019

megalodon30 said:
How long did Julio Franco play baseball? Does that make him an all-time great?

I think he might still be playing.

Seriously.

Somewhere they don't speak English, or even Spanish. Unless it is the Phillipines. I don't think it's the Phillipines. But it could be.

broncosmitty · Jul 23, 2019

Update:

Julio DOES still play baseball. And they speak English AND Spanish, in a magical place, called Fort Worth.

Crazy shit maign, dude was in the big leagues before I ever had a birthday.

broncosmitty · Jul 23, 2019

Further Update:

The team in Fort Worth no longer exists. It's prolly the Phillipines after all.

jontaejones · Jul 23, 2019

I think Rodgers should be at least #3.

If you put Montana and Brady ahead, it's fine.

But he's better than Peyton.

And Favre ahead of him is a collossal joke. Favre's season with the Jets should drop him out of the Top 10.

rmilia1 · Jul 23, 2019

jontaejones said:
I think Rodgers should be at least #3.

If you put Montana and Brady ahead, it's fine.

But he's better than Peyton.

And Favre ahead of him is a collossal joke. Favre's season with the Jets should drop him out of the Top 10.

It's really just a matter of 2 things right now . Favres career is over so ( by my system ) he got more points for being higher in yards and TDs than Rodgers ( who could obviously still catch him ) and Favre has one extra MVP that Rodgers doesnt. When I added the advanced stats it made them fairly close but Favre still led by a bit. Oh and Favre has an extra SB appearance as well

rmilia1 · Jul 23, 2019

Rodgers side note . He's actually closer to being 9th than 3rd but Brees is the only guy currently playing who could pass him this year assuming Rodgers plays the whole season

Tapey · Jul 23, 2019

Wamu said:
Shane's list only goes to 9 though.

Leave me alone I have cte

tducey · Jul 23, 2019

Thanks for sharing this, won't do a top 25 but my top 10 is:

1. Brady
2. Montana
3. Peyton Manning
4. Unitas
5. Elway
6. Marino
7. Young
8. Favre
9. Brees
10. Rodgers

megalodon30 · Jul 23, 2019

eaglesnut said:
QB rating is a made up combination of real stats.

In other words

Shut the Fuck up.

When did robotdevil hack your account?

eaglesnut · Jul 23, 2019

Shanemansj13 said:
If you could read I said not one stat can define a player but regardless Eli is average. Nothing is top 10 QB about him...right now...nothing is top 25 QB of all-time about him.

Your logic: He has a lot of passing yards and TD's ain't cutting it kid

I didn't read it, but I was impressed with your effort. Not many go into the details around here and even if you were looking at an inconsequential number you still looked at it thoroughly and I like that.

eaglesnut · Jul 23, 2019

jontaejones said:
I think Rodgers should be at least #3.

If you put Montana and Brady ahead, it's fine.

But he's better than Peyton.

And Favre ahead of him is a collossal joke. Favre's season with the Jets should drop him out of the Top 10.

Let's see what Rodgers does his age 39 season.

Favre never failed his team and got injured during his prime.

PDay8810 · Jul 23, 2019

LOL..boy, some opinions do stink worse than others

Brees#1 · Jul 24, 2019

rmilia1 said:
I gave equal weight to MVPs as I did Super Bowls because ( imo ) a MVP award signifies season long excellence as opposed to ( potentially ) a few game hot streak ( see Eli or Flacco )

Statistically Manning crushed Montana although I did use practical era comparisons ( which is why I have Marino over Brees ) but ultimately for my criteria Peyton's MVPs overcame the 2 less SBs when comped to Montana

Drew Brees was close to MVP four times in his career. He never won it because someone else showed off (LT, Mahomes) or his team won more games (2009 Manning).

rmilia1 · Jul 24, 2019

Brees#1 said:
Drew Brees was close to MVP four times in his career. He never won it because someone else showed off (LT, Mahomes) or his team won more games (2009 Manning).

Yep been very close . One more SB or MVP and he will pass Young and Marino for sure and potentially Rodgers ( at least in my rankings ). If he gets both he could vault to 4th

Brees#1 · Jul 24, 2019

But some people have won MVPs in years that never matched those? Brees and the Saints tend to win in tough years. They are better than the 15' Panthers and 16' Falcons.

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