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Why Arkansas should be in the Big XII

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To be honest, OP, I kinda wish Arkansas WOULD go back to the SWC. I hated that whole fake rivalry with South Carolina, just because they entered the league together.
 

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To be honest, OP, I kinda wish Arkansas WOULD go back to the SWC. I hated that whole fake rivalry with South Carolina, just because they entered the league together.
And the new fake rivalry is replacing South Carolina with A&M.
 

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And the new fake rivalry is replacing South Carolina with A&M.

Yeah, don't care for that one, either. Gotta start somewhere, I guess, but the SEC for over 20 years pushed Arkie-LSU and Arkie-SC, and now it's as if they never existed. If I was the Razorbacks I would take my ball and go home
 

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I went to a "rave".

It was held in Fayetteville around '93ish if I recall correctly. A group of us from Tulsa went, as some dj's from here were booked at the event. Mostly gabber dj's...which is a vile form of music. They had inbred goth rave zombies there. Lots of good acid and nitrous though...those inbred goth rave zombies know how to party.

I never want to go back. I saw some things there that are better left unspoken of.

Northwest Arkansas has grown a ton in the last 15-20 years, thanks in large part to Walmart and Tyson money. One of the fastest growing places in the country now. The rest of the state is pretty bland for the most part. NWA will likely have a higher population than Little Rock in about a decade.

And the new fake rivalry is replacing South Carolina with A&M.

At least we have history with A&M in the SWC. The whole "rivalry" they're pushing with Missouri is dumb.

Right now we're so bad in football we wouldn't be competitive in any conference, but long-term we would have had moderately more success in the Big 12 than we've had in the SEC. In 2011 for instance we finished #5 in the country yet 3rd in the SEC West and beat the Big 12 co-champions in the Cotton Bowl by 15. We've had sporadic success in football (three SEC West division titles and a BCS bowl appearance), basketball (national title in '94 but pretty mediocre since), and baseball (multiple CWS appearances and nearly a national title last year) but haven't been consistent in anything but maybe baseball (and track). I see us as a comparable or better program historically to Oklahoma State so I'm not sure why we can't do what they've done under Gundy here.

The money we get from the SEC is hard to turn down and we have pretty great facilities in all 3 major sports but our average recruiting ranking in football would be around 3rd-5th in the Big 12 most years compared to around 10th in the SEC so it is easy to see why it might be attractive to not be in the same division as Alabama, LSU and Auburn anymore.
 

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Northwest Arkansas has grown a ton in the last 15-20 years, thanks in large part to Walmart and Tyson money. One of the fastest growing places in the country now. The rest of the state is pretty bland for the most part. NWA will likely have a higher population than Little Rock in about a decade.



At least we have history with A&M in the SWC. The whole "rivalry" they're pushing with Missouri is dumb.

Right now we're so bad in football we wouldn't be competitive in any conference, but long-term we would have had moderately more success in the Big 12 than we've had in the SEC. In 2011 for instance we finished #5 in the country yet 3rd in the SEC West and beat the Big 12 co-champions in the Cotton Bowl by 15. We've had sporadic success in football (three SEC West division titles and a BCS bowl appearance), basketball (national title in '94 but pretty mediocre since), and baseball (multiple CWS appearances and nearly a national title last year) but haven't been consistent in anything but maybe baseball (and track). I see us as a comparable or better program historically to Oklahoma State so I'm not sure why we can't do what they've done under Gundy here.

The money we get from the SEC is hard to turn down and we have pretty great facilities in all 3 major sports but our average recruiting ranking in football would be around 3rd-5th in the Big 12 most years compared to around 10th in the SEC so it is easy to see why it might be attractive to not be in the same division as Alabama, LSU and Auburn anymore.

There weren't any co champions in 2011
 

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Its not entirely crazy to see Arky joining the Big XII....once the great reshuffle happens.

If the Big XII survives to the day when P5 CFB consolidates to the 4 16-team P4 Conferences I could see Arky and Mizzou and possibly Nebraska return to the new "Big XVI" South. A&M and Colorado would be readmitted as well.
 

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There weren't any co champions in 2011

I guess Kansas State finished 2nd, must have misremembered. You'd think I'd be able to remember the last season we were any good better than that :D
 

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I guess Kansas State finished 2nd, must have misremembered. You'd think I'd be able to remember the last season we were any good better than that :D

I had to go double check myself. I was pretty sure we won it outright but couldn't remember if KSU only had one conference loss as well.
 

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didn’t arkansas lose to north texas? put them in the wac or conference usa
 

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didn’t arkansas lose to north texas? put them in the wac or conference usa
They did. One of the lowest points in the programs history. Well.. ..it is a toss up between that and the Citadel loss in '92. Does not change a thing. Arkansas will not be going to the Big XII.
 
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