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Series Thread: Rangers Face The Tigers In Detroit June 25-27

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Let's see what we can accomplish against one of the 6 or 7 teams who are currently looking to be sellers at the deadline.
 

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Let's see what we can accomplish against one of the 6 or 7 teams who are currently looking to be sellers at the deadline.

Hoping for not much resistance. If we’re serious about trying to get a wildcard, 2/3 is a must.
 

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Don't know if you guys listened to Hitzges this morning but his take on Odor was: 'The time has come to reward the guys who's been playing well and demote/bench the one's who aren't. Since Odor can't be sent down, pine-time is what he has to get. It's not fair for this overachieving team to have one guy hitting so poorly, yet gets to start almost daily.'.........My words, but that's what he said.

He did add it wouldn't surprise him to see Odor play during the Detroit series b/c we don't have to make any more moves until Gallo/Pence come back. Besides, if he can't get it going against one of the worst pitching staffs in the majors, then what choice do you have?
 

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Don't know if you guys listened to Hitzges this morning but his take on Odor was: 'The time has come to reward the guys who's been playing well and demote/bench the one's who aren't. Since Odor can't be sent down, pine-time is what he has to get. It's not fair for this overachieving team to have one guy hitting so poorly, yet gets to start almost daily.'.........My words, but that's what he said.

He did add it wouldn't surprise him to see Odor play during the Detroit series b/c we don't have to make any more moves until Gallo/Pence come back. Besides, if he can't get it going against one of the worst pitching staffs in the majors, then what choice do you have?
No I did not hear him. Thanks. Good post.
 

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Don't know if you guys listened to Hitzges this morning but his take on Odor was: 'The time has come to reward the guys who's been playing well and demote/bench the one's who aren't. Since Odor can't be sent down, pine-time is what he has to get. It's not fair for this overachieving team to have one guy hitting so poorly, yet gets to start almost daily.'.........My words, but that's what he said.

He did add it wouldn't surprise him to see Odor play during the Detroit series b/c we don't have to make any more moves until Gallo/Pence come back. Besides, if he can't get it going against one of the worst pitching staffs in the majors, then what choice do you have?
Odor needs to be on the bench and Santana needs to be playing. He can be sent down, he just has to consent to it. I would go to Odor and tell him that they want him to go down. If he refuses, I would DFA his ass.
 

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Don't know if you guys listened to Hitzges this morning but his take on Odor was: 'The time has come to reward the guys who's been playing well and demote/bench the one's who aren't. Since Odor can't be sent down, pine-time is what he has to get. It's not fair for this overachieving team to have one guy hitting so poorly, yet gets to start almost daily.'.........My words, but that's what he said.

He did add it wouldn't surprise him to see Odor play during the Detroit series b/c we don't have to make any more moves until Gallo/Pence come back. Besides, if he can't get it going against one of the worst pitching staffs in the majors, then what choice do you have?

Very interesting post. I’m surprised that thought never crossed the minds of anyone in our front office.
 

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Odor needs to be on the bench and Santana needs to be playing. He can be sent down, he just has to consent to it. I would go to Odor and tell him that they want him to go down. If he refuses, I would DFA his ass.

You’d just hand him 50 million to leave? Easy to say when it’s not your money. It’s not a good situation and it can get ugly. The front office has botched this situation in a major way. Around the beginning of June, odor accumulated 5 years of major league service time.

The options are

1) continue to pretend that he doesn’t suck and play him everyday over more talented players on the bench.

2) attempt to demote him. He has to consent. If he says no and you send him down anyway. He can collect the $50 million we owe him and ride off into the sunset on that beautiful pony we gave him.

3) Bench him for more talented players. Use him as a defensive replacement when rosters expand. Use him as alate inning roster replacement if we’re blowing people out or getting blown out. Try to prevent him from getting at bats that impact the outcome of the game because he will usually fail based on his track record.

I guess option 3 is the best at this point. The front office is so stubborn that I wouldn’t surprise if there was a directive for woody to play him every day. It is what it is.
 

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I know he hit awhile ago, but I never imagined I’d like Calhoun as much as I have.

It seems like a no brainer that we have to keep him. He hits the ball hard almost everytime and he barely strikes out. A rare, but very potent combination for a hitter.
 

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You’d just hand him 50 million to leave? Easy to say when it’s not your money. It’s not a good situation and it can get ugly. The front office has botched this situation in a major way. Around the beginning of June, odor accumulated 5 years of major league service time.

The options are

1) continue to pretend that he doesn’t suck and play him everyday over more talented players on the bench.

2) attempt to demote him. He has to consent. If he says no and you send him down anyway. He can collect the $50 million we owe him and ride off into the sunset on that beautiful pony we gave him.

3) Bench him for more talented players. Use him as a defensive replacement when rosters expand. Use him as alate inning roster replacement if we’re blowing people out or getting blown out. Try to prevent him from getting at bats that impact the outcome of the game because he will usually fail based on his track record.

I guess option 3 is the best at this point. The front office is so stubborn that I wouldn’t surprise if there was a directive for woody to play him every day. It is what it is.

I totally agree with your first line about the $50 mil. I don't think the Rangers are the only team who would be 'extremely reluctant' to just let a 25 years old go AND give him $50 mil.....I've beat this pony to death, but I said from day one 'why the hell did we sign this guy to this much after one decent season?'.......Maybe they were hoping to catch Elvis in a bottle again.

But I can't imagine that the time isn't coming and soon, where the team has to either see if he'll go down, or bench him.
 

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I know he hit awhile ago, but I never imagined I’d like Calhoun as much as I have.

It seems like a no brainer that we have to keep him. He hits the ball hard almost everytime and he barely strikes out. A rare, but very potent combination for a hitter.

If they were to send him down this could cause a crack in the clubhouse, and I can't imagine that Willie's attitude wouldn't head due south; fast too.
 

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If they were to send him down this could cause a crack in the clubhouse, and I can't imagine that Willie's attitude wouldn't head due south; fast too.

I can’t imagine that he is a candidate to be sent down. All the guy does is hit the crap out of the ball and get on base. Deshields doesn’t deserve it either because he’s been great since we demoted him and brought him back up.

I’d DFA Guzman at this point. It would also free up some playing time for forsythe and Santana who deserve it.
 

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Don't know if you guys listened to Hitzges this morning but his take on Odor was: 'The time has come to reward the guys who's been playing well and demote/bench the one's who aren't. Since Odor can't be sent down, pine-time is what he has to get. It's not fair for this overachieving team to have one guy hitting so poorly, yet gets to start almost daily.'.........My words, but that's what he said.

He did add it wouldn't surprise him to see Odor play during the Detroit series b/c we don't have to make any more moves until Gallo/Pence come back. Besides, if he can't get it going against one of the worst pitching staffs in the majors, then what choice do you have?
I like the idea of benching him, but he needs to learn the OF. With so few bench players you need ones who play multiple positions.
 
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