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It has nothing to do with the topic. Of course Dallas would be in trouble. He’s a good fucking QB.

How does it not have to do with the topic. Fact is Dallas will be in trouble if one out of Dak, Zeke, DLaw, Martin, TSmith, Cooper got hurt early in the SB.
So are you saying if Dallas made the SB and Dak got hurt the team would be OK?

This answer should be good, please enlighten us.
 

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So if I’m wrong and Dak actually has a good arm (and the team doesn’t let him show it in a passing league) what are his weaknesses.

The team is BUILT the run behind a line built to run block. The Cowboys game plan isn't hard to understand.
 

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How does it not have to do with the topic. Fact is Dallas will be in trouble if one out of Dak, Zeke, DLaw, Martin, TSmith, Cooper got hurt early in the SB.
So are you saying if Dallas made the SB and Dak got hurt the team would be OK?

This answer should be good, please enlighten us.

Didn’t I already say they’d be in trouble without Dak just like every other team that loses their starting QB. All I’m trying to say is if there was a big game and you needed to be a pass team to catch-up you’re in trouble cause Dak isn’t that QB. Dak isn’t the type to go out and have a huge game carrying the team on his shoulders and that’s OK cause he’s plenty good at other things.
 

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Didn’t I already say they’d be in trouble without Dak just like every other team that loses their starting QB. All I’m trying to say is if there was a big game and you needed to be a pass team to catch-up you’re in trouble cause Dak isn’t that QB. Dak isn’t the type to go out and have a huge game carrying the team on his shoulders and that’s OK cause he’s plenty good at other things.

So how in hell can you say I can't process the situation?

Not many teams can carry on without thier starting QB, except the Eagles of course.
 

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I agree. It’s a combination of things. It’s ludicrous I sit here and praise an obviously really good team with stars at every level.Even added Dak is good too and has special talents. But I’m getting taken to task for saying he isn’t an elite passer. Incredible


You could just give it up instead of begging for insults!
 

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So how in hell can you say I can't process the situation?

Not many teams can carry on without thier starting QB, except the Eagles of course.

Because you make arbitrary and capricious statements that leave me sitting back like, “Huhhh”
 

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So if I’m wrong and Dak actually has a good arm (and the team doesn’t let him show it in a passing league) what are his weaknesses.

Who were the receivers before cooper last year? I’ll wait...
 

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Who were the receivers before cooper last year? I’ll wait...

Yes Cooper was desperately needed and Dak was much better with him. I don’t think you’re following the argument. Dak is a good QB with some very special talents.
I’m just saying he’s not an MVP candidate because he doesn’t have very good arm talent.

Actually that reminds me of an argument that me and Manster has last year. He said they don’t need Dez because their 3rd round pick WR can easily put up the same numbers.
 

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So how in hell can you say I can't process the situation?

Not many teams can carry on without thier starting QB, except the Eagles of course.

Because it has nothing to do with what we are talking about
 

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what you don't get is most Cowboy fans know exactly what he is which is a very good QB that had a helleva lot to do with Dallas being in the playoffs 2 outta his first 3 seasons. He has far and away outplayed his draft position. I don't give a rats ass about MVP caliber bull shit you spew, fact remains he was the rookie of the year and at one point in that season, he was in the MVP conversation, and besides your OSU fanboy bull shit, he had everything to do with the way he was playing and not the because of the OSU RB. The biggest fan boy in these Dak conversations remains you and your OSU bias shit you spew. Dallas went 3-3 in year two when Elliott was out, the replacement RB got his yards...they were 3-3 because the D was suspect and the oline had injury issues. It sure as hell wasn't cause the RB fucked up and had to sit out 6 games as you so often say here.

BUT BUT....the better point about Dak is the character he brings to a team, his leadership, and the off the carts attitude to improve at his craft he brings to this team every day. Now....he might not be top 10 as we sit here today, but he remains the most important aspect to this team, a team that has drafted very well and has good players throughout the roster. A team that is unquestionable a contender. Dak is the most important player on this team going forward and is the reason why he will get paid regardless of the money bull shit you and others like you love to spew. I'll say it again, Dallas fans are fans of their team and should not have to apologize for being a fan. It's the fucking haters like yourself and the bull shit you spew that requires a fan of this team to call out.

Stick to your strengths bud, be the OSU fan boy you are and hope like hell your Browns will finally become NFL relevant, and stop pointing your finger at people for being what you are, which is a fan of a team, even if it's not your team.

Lastly...YES he had a phenomenal year for a rookie which was why he was named Rookie of the Year that season and at one point, in the MVP conversation. Duplicate? it's been 2 seasons shithead and besides you stupidty, year 3 was pretty darn close to as good. It's been 3 years for this 4th round draft pick, why not pipe down your constant bull shit and lets see how this turns out. Dallas fans are no different than any other fanbase, they see the glass half full. Take a look in the mirror and buy a fucking clue
Pretty much all I needed to see was you trying to bring my OSU fandom into the conversation to know you're entirely full of shit. Zeke could've gone to Washington A&M for all I care, I'm far from the only person to know - and point out - that without Zeke, Dak simply is a different QB.

Great for you if you think year 3 was close to year 1. It was still absolutely nowhere remotely close to being MVP-level good.
 

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Yes Cooper was desperately needed and Dak was much better with him. I don’t think you’re following the argument. Dak is a good QB with some very special talents.
I’m just saying he’s not an MVP candidate because he doesn’t have very good arm talent.

Actually that reminds me of an argument that me and Manster has last year. He said they don’t need Dez because their 3rd round pick WR can easily put up the same numbers.

What specifically do you mean by “arm talent”?
 

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Nobody is saying Dak is an MVP. Why can't we say he can be? Dak is a good QB and still young. Half the teams in NFL would like to have a QB like Dak......
I bet half of them would, because he's better than probably half of the starting QBs in the NFL. You can say whatever you want, I'm simply pointing out that he hasn't had a year that's anywhere close to the MVP-level seasons you see nowadays. Until he starts approaching that sort of production as a passer, what's to say he's actually capable of it? What's to say what you see is what you get - a pretty good QB who is undoubtedly outplaying his draft position, but isn't in the group of elite QBs and hasn't shown that he's going to get there?
 

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I bet half of them would, because he's better than probably half of the starting QBs in the NFL. You can say whatever you want, I'm simply pointing out that he hasn't had a year that's anywhere close to the MVP-level seasons you see nowadays. Until he starts approaching that sort of production as a passer, what's to say he's actually capable of it? What's to say what you see is what you get - a pretty good QB who is undoubtedly outplaying his draft position, but isn't in the group of elite QBs and hasn't shown that he's going to get there?

I don't have issue with this, I have issue with those reading their crystal balls saying Dak CAN'T win it. Hell I'll even admit the cards are stacked against him as there are a good number of better players and only one MVP is awarded.
 
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