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actually your point you were trying to make was flawed from the beginning. We already went through all of this with stats & facts that proved you wrong on Daks deep ball. instead of trying to start the debate again just go back & reread what was taught to you.

Dak follows an offensive scheme for what players we had on the team. he didnt go off plan like some certain other QB in the league. He is not a stat whore worrying about his ego. He just likes to win. Which only one other QB has done that better than him since he joined the league.

Yup. I was wrong. Dak is a great arm talent and is a fantastic deep ball thrower. Funny thing is the ONLY people saying this are Cowboy fans.
Most of us think Dallas is winning with a great run game and a nice D.
You guys should go to CowboyZone and see what some level headed Cowboy fans say about Dak. I remember a bunch of them stating Dak should be benched 8 games into last season
 

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I agree. It’s a combination of things. It’s ludicrous I sit here and praise an obviously really good team with stars at every level.Even added Dak is good too and has special talents. But I’m getting taken to task for saying he isn’t an elite passer. Incredible
not true.
None of us are claiming he is an elite passer.
you said it isnt even possible for him to be considered for an MVP (which had already happened)
We dont think Dak is the next coming of Dan Marino.
We think he is a leader that wins games.
Fact he doesnt have gaudy #'s makes you think he is less of a QB. Notice I said QB not passer. Where he cant win games, but when a game is on the line he always performs at a high level & usually gets the lead back for the team. Now if the defense turns around & gives it back up isnt his fault. When being a QB is more than just stats. In fact he does this at a higher level than your so called elite passer. Rather have that QB that can win in the final 2 or 4 minutes of a game vs. a QB that looks good for 50 mins & folds. Which is what happens with a lot of your so called elite passers with great stats.
 

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I know I know. Dak is an elite passer. The entire team can’t be criticized. They are all perfect
not true at all. We often criticize Dak. You should know you lurk on our board all the time.
Which is what is actually awesome. The guy has a nice resume already & has plenty of room to improve.
 

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Yup. I was wrong. Dak is a great arm talent and is a fantastic deep ball thrower. Funny thing is the ONLY people saying this are Cowboy fans.
Most of us think Dallas is winning with a great run game and a nice D.
You guys should go to CowboyZone and see what some level headed Cowboy fans say about Dak. I remember a bunch of them stating Dak should be benched 8 games into last season
well if that were the case. Dak wouldnt have more game winning drives in his 1st three years than anyone else in NFL history.
Just face it. There is an "it" factor to him that isnt in stats.
 

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not true.
None of us are claiming he is an elite passer.
you said it isnt even possible for him to be considered for an MVP (which had already happened)
We dont think Dak is the next coming of Dan Marino.
We think he is a leader that wins games.
Fact he doesnt have gaudy #'s makes you think he is less of a QB. Notice I said QB not passer. Where he cant win games, but when a game is on the line he always performs at a high level & usually gets the lead back for the team. Now if the defense turns around & gives it back up isnt his fault. When being a QB is more than just stats. In fact he does this at a higher level than your so called elite passer. Rather have that QB that can win in the final 2 or 4 minutes of a game vs. a QB that looks good for 50 mins & folds. Which is what happens with a lot of your so called elite passers with great stats.

Didn’t say he couldn’t win at a high level. I said he isn’t the type to carry a team.
Next I said he’s not capable of winning MVP. He’s not. That’s for the 40 TD, 4500 yard guys. Being mentioned by a couple guys at the midway point and not at all at the end of the season does not mean he can be an MVP quarterback.
 

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well if that were the case. Dak wouldnt have more game winning drives in his 1st three years than anyone else in NFL history.
Just face it. There is an "it" factor to him that isnt in stats.

He totally has an it factor. He does. He’s a good QB. All I’m saying is if you’re in the NFC championship game down 14 and Zeke gets hurt early it’s over.
 

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He totally has an it factor. He does. He’s a good QB. All I’m saying is if you’re in the NFC championship game down 14 and Zeke gets hurt early it’s over.
this is where we disagree.
 

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this is where we disagree.

Dak ain’t the guy to take over a game and throw for 375 yards and 4 TDs putting the team on his back. He’s a system QB who is good at running the system. Taking the guaranteed 5 yards instead of risking it throwing it deep. Protecting the ball. Making smart plays. Running the ball for 9 yards in the red zone. Moving the chains. I think that’s fine cause Dallas is so talented that’s all they need. Romo could put a team on his back. Brees, Rodgers can put a team on their back. Dak ain’t that type of QB.
 

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Dak ain’t the guy to take over a game and throw for 375 yards and 4 TDs putting the team on his back. He’s a system QB who is good at running the system. Taking the guaranteed 5 yards instead of risking it throwing it deep. Protecting the ball. Making smart plays. Running the ball for 9 yards in the red zone. Moving the chains. I think that’s fine cause Dallas is so talented that’s all they need. Romo could put a team on his back. Brees, Rodgers can put a team on their back. Dak ain’t that type of QB.
you mean when the packers were up by 15 pts in the 4th qtr in the playoffs & Dak brought them back to 31-31 with 35 sec. left in game? Not his fault the Cowboys defense couldnt stop Rodgers in 35 seconds. he has already disproved your 14 down in 4th qtr BS.

but the nice thing about having a consistent QB. You dont have to pass for 375 & 4 tds. He does protect the ball, but again. When he has to drive & get that late score he normally does. Which is again. is more than just throwing it in the flats. but you are just to stubborn to admit that.
As far as being Brees or Rodgers. there is only a couple QBs in the league like that. So that is a silly comparison. or is 90% of the league just a system QB?
Pretending Dak cant do something because he plays well enough to not have too is kinda silly. Again he is consistent.
 

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I know I know. Dak is an elite passer. The entire team can’t be criticized. They are all perfect

Who the fuck is saying he’s “elite”? The topic is your dumb ass claiming he doesn’t have arm talent. You’re retarded and a poor talent evaluator regarding football.
 

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Dak ain’t the guy to take over a game and throw for 375 yards and 4 TDs putting the team on his back. He’s a system QB who is good at running the system. Taking the guaranteed 5 yards instead of risking it throwing it deep. Protecting the ball. Making smart plays. Running the ball for 9 yards in the red zone. Moving the chains. I think that’s fine cause Dallas is so talented that’s all they need. Romo could put a team on his back. Brees, Rodgers can put a team on their back. Dak ain’t that type of QB.


So by your standards Dak can’t lead his team to a comeback?

Guess who has the most 4th quarter comebacks not named Brady, in the last 3 years?
 

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Yup. I was wrong. Dak is a great arm talent and is a fantastic deep ball thrower. Funny thing is the ONLY people saying this are Cowboy fans.
Most of us think Dallas is winning with a great run game and a nice D.
You guys should go to CowboyZone and see what some level headed Cowboy fans say about Dak. I remember a bunch of them stating Dak should be benched 8 games into last season
Well in 2018 passes over 20 yds

Rating to the left
League avg 76.6
Wentz 145.8
Dak 90.8

To the middle
League avg. 89.6
Wentz 20.8 (not a misprint)
Dak 158.8

to the Right
League avg. 78.0
Wentz 26.3 (again not a misprint)
Dak 101.0

So again I am not saying he is great at the long ball. I am saying your way of thinking is flawed. he is above league avg in all three. Wentz is above in one.
 

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Dak ain’t the guy to take over a game and throw for 375 yards and 4 TDs
for shits & giggles I was curious the last time he passed for 4 tds.
I had to go allllllllllllllllll the way back to 2018 week 17 against the giants. 387 yds & 4 tds. he passed the ball 44 times.
all 4 were over 15 yds. 3 were over 20 & one of those were over 45.
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for shits & giggles I was curious the last time he passed for 4 tds.
I had to go allllllllllllllllll the way back to 2018 week 17 against the giants. 387 yds & 4 tds. he passed the ball 44 times.
all 4 were over 15 yds. 3 were over 20 & one of those were over 45.
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Ok... you got me and the rest of the country. Daks incredible and doesn’t have a flaw in his game. The amount of 300 yard games Dak has had in his career are very very small.
You also listed a come back game in where Zeke playing. I don’t think he has the ability to carry a team without the great OLine and all world RB. Daks arm talent is mediocre. Everyone knows this but if you want to tell us he’s actually has a fantastic arm then more power to you. The truth is if Dak was elite Dallas would have won SBs all ready cause the team is stacked.
 

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This is REALLY all about PE1 fear that Dak is better than wentz. All his feigned praise of Dak is really backhanded compliments. He essentially says things like “he’s a nice little player” but he’s not phenomenal like Wentz.

The Eagles have had much better weapons on offense during these Wentz/Dak years but he will never admit that. He will say “Dak can’t win without Elliot” but whenever Wentz loses he will blame it on some injured player not being around.

He fails to see that THIS is the reason he catches shit. This is why he plays the victim card when he catches the shit he deserves.
 

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Proven wrong... 36 inches. Wow now that a huge fucking difference and totally negated my point. Not.

Every QB can throw a 60 yard bomb.

Everything I’ve heard about Dak is he’s a great leader and a very hard worker. He is very effective running the ball and doesn’t turn over the rock. Now if you’re trying to tell me he has a very good arm then I guess there isn’t a flaw in his game and he’s an elite QB. Unfortunately I’ve read in the papers, seen on the internet, most non Cowboy fans, announcers etc etc will all tell you the same thing. His weakness is his ability to throw the ball at a high level. Believe what you want but you can’t even handle one fan saying there is a flaw in his game. You want me to admit he’s perfect I guess even though I think Dallas might have the most overall talent in the NFL... but that’s not enough. I have to say Dak is great too and if not I’m a moron. Ridiculous

How did it prove you wrong?
Well for starters 10 yards is in fact longer than 9 yards, therefore you were proven wrong.

To add insult to injury you continued to dig your heels in when fans of multiple teams gave you proof you were wrong.
 
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