2016 re-draft

Cowboys starting WRs in 2017: an old (from a body perspective), slow Dez Bryant that dropped everything in sight and still hasn't played a game since and Terrance Williams who can't catch and could do nothing but block and Beasley on 3rd downs who is a really good role player, but can only work the box. No speed at all in this group to go with very little talent.

Cowboys starting WRs in 2018 until Cooper arrived: Gallup who looks like a really, really good WR but was in his first 7 games in the league and either Beasley, Deonta Thompson or Hurns.

Both years had really bad OL play at times due to injuries. Amazing Dak's stats struggled some. But, more amazing maybe that he won the NFC East again for his team and also a playoff game.

jarntt said:

Cowboys starting WRs in 2017: an old (from a body perspective), slow Dez Bryant that dropped everything in sight and still hasn't played a game since and Terrance Williams who can't catch and could do nothing but block and Beasley on 3rd downs who is a really good role player, but can only work the box. No speed at all in this group to go with very little talent.

Cowboys starting WRs in 2018 until Cooper arrived: Gallup who looks like a really, really good WR but was in his first 7 games in the league and either Beasley, Deonta Thompson or Hurns.

Both years had really bad OL play at times due to injuries. Amazing Dak's stats struggled some. But, more amazing maybe that he won the NFC East again for his team and also a playoff game.

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But but... Wentz is phenomenal.

Across The Field said:

This is the main point that these Cowboys fans don't get. He had a phenomenal year for a rookie. It was not an MVP caliber year, and he hasn't been able to even duplicate that quality of a year yet, let alone improve on it. Until he proves he can do that, he is not an MVP-caliber QB. It's just that simple.

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what you don't get is most Cowboy fans know exactly what he is which is a very good QB that had a helleva lot to do with Dallas being in the playoffs 2 outta his first 3 seasons. He has far and away outplayed his draft position. I don't give a rats ass about MVP caliber bull shit you spew, fact remains he was the rookie of the year and at one point in that season, he was in the MVP conversation, and besides your OSU fanboy bull shit, he had everything to do with the way he was playing and not the because of the OSU RB. The biggest fan boy in these Dak conversations remains you and your OSU bias shit you spew. Dallas went 3-3 in year two when Elliott was out, the replacement RB got his yards...they were 3-3 because the D was suspect and the oline had injury issues. It sure as hell wasn't cause the RB fucked up and had to sit out 6 games as you so often say here.

BUT BUT....the better point about Dak is the character he brings to a team, his leadership, and the off the carts attitude to improve at his craft he brings to this team every day. Now....he might not be top 10 as we sit here today, but he remains the most important aspect to this team, a team that has drafted very well and has good players throughout the roster. A team that is unquestionable a contender. Dak is the most important player on this team going forward and is the reason why he will get paid regardless of the money bull shit you and others like you love to spew. I'll say it again, Dallas fans are fans of their team and should not have to apologize for being a fan. It's the fucking haters like yourself and the bull shit you spew that requires a fan of this team to call out.

Stick to your strengths bud, be the OSU fan boy you are and hope like hell your Browns will finally become NFL relevant, and stop pointing your finger at people for being what you are, which is a fan of a team, even if it's not your team.

Lastly...YES he had a phenomenal year for a rookie which was why he was named Rookie of the Year that season and at one point, in the MVP conversation. Duplicate? it's been 2 seasons shithead and besides you stupidty, year 3 was pretty darn close to as good. It's been 3 years for this 4th round draft pick, why not pipe down your constant bull shit and lets see how this turns out. Dallas fans are no different than any other fanbase, they see the glass half full. Take a look in the mirror and buy a fucking clue

Manster7588 said:

You're not just a moron for your Dak stance, you're a moron through and through.

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Oh my god. You insulted me for the 10,000th time. (Which has zero impact on me and just shows me you’re incapable of discussion and now run to Handi to back you up).

PhoenixEagles1 said:

Oh my god. You insulted me for the 10,000th time. (Which has zero impact on me and just shows me you’re incapable of discussion and now run to Handi to back you up).

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Why the parenthetical? You do realize it’s LONGER than the original statement, don’t you?

Score another one for the TOY!!

dbldwn711 said:

Why the parenthetical? You do realize it’s LONGER than the original statement, don’t you?

Score another one for the TOY!!

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You really want me to hold to proper English on a chat board? I guess if I use 4 dots on for an ellipsis you’re going to tell me I should only use 3? When you get to correcting people’s English on a chat board you know you’re just looking for anything to fight about.

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Oh my god. You insulted me for the 10,000th time. (Which has zero impact on me and just shows me you’re incapable of discussion and now run to Handi to back you up).

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10,000 times? You are giving yourself way too much credit.

PhoenixEagles1 said:

You really want me to hold to proper English on a chat board? I guess if I use 4 dots on for an ellipsis you’re going to tell me I should only use 3? When you get to correcting people’s English on a chat board you know you’re just looking for anything to fight about.

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I just asked a question. Of course, it’s a chatboard but what you write AND how you write it is a reflection of you. I just find it funny that you call people out for being “dumb”, “stupid”, “uneducated”, etc yet you have no concerns that your writings show you to be the very thing about which you call other people out.

Manster7588 said:

10,000 times? You are giving yourself way too much credit.

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There you go again... hyper analyzing every word and turning to trolls for support by marking their posts as “winners”. Happy for you that you have Handi and DblDown on your side. It shows me your real intentions.
Today you’re taking me to task for saying, “Dallas is loaded with talent and have stars on every level of their team and that Dak is a good QB with some special skills but just not MVP level”. You’re calling me a moron for not saying Dallas is a very good team, they have stars all over and DAK IS A SENSATIONAL MVP TYPE OF QB.
Cut me a break

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There you go again... hyper analyzing every word and turning to trolls for support by marking their posts as “winners”. Happy for you that you have Handi and DblDown on your side. It shows me your real intentions.
Today you’re taking me to task for saying, “Dallas is loaded with talent and have stars on every level of their team and that Dak is a good QB with some special skills but just not MVP level”. You’re calling me a moron for not saying Dallas is a very good team, they have stars all over and DAK IS A SENSATIONAL MVP TYPE OF QB.
Cut me a break

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Stop overstating BULLSHIT and I'll leave your moronic ass alone.

Guys cant we all be friends here

Tapey said:

Guys cant we all be friends here

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Most of us yes. Nobody is friends with everybody.

Across The Field said:

This is the main point that these Cowboys fans don't get. He had a phenomenal year for a rookie. It was not an MVP caliber year, and he hasn't been able to even duplicate that quality of a year yet, let alone improve on it. Until he proves he can do that, he is not an MVP-caliber QB. It's just that simple.

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Nobody is saying Dak is an MVP. Why can't we say he can be? Dak is a good QB and still young. Half the teams in NFL would like to have a QB like Dak......

Southieinnc said:

Nobody is saying Dak is an MVP. Why can't we say he can be? Dak is a good QB and still young. Half the teams in NFL would like to have a QB like Dak......

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Because some have crystal balls that say it's impossible, and they closed their books on it.

All us HOMER Cowboys fans are saying is he COULD win the MVP.

Manster7588 said:

Because some have crystal balls that say it's impossible, and they closed their books on it.

All us HOMER Cowboys fans are saying is he COULD win the MVP.

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I agree...it's the haters saying what he won't do...as for me, screw the MVP, I just want him to deliver a championship

PDay8810 said:

I agree...it's the haters saying what he won't do...as for me, screw the MVP, I just want him to deliver a championship

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Agree, 15th Best QB holding the Lombardi is good as far as I'm concerned.

PDay8810 said:

I agree...it's the haters saying what he won't do...as for me, screw the MVP, I just want him to deliver a championship

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It's kind of funny watching a Browns fan get all puffed up about your QB. What 7 wins will do to fan.....

Southieinnc said:

It's kind of funny watching a Browns fan get all puffed up about your QB. What 7 wins will do to fan.....

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Bakers on his way to greatness. At least that's the impression I get from a certain anti Dak Browns fan.

Southieinnc said:

It's kind of funny watching a Browns fan get all puffed up about your QB. What 7 wins will do to fan.....

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no shit, but I think he's more the Ohio State ball washer and protecting Elliot's value more than anything else.

Manster7588 said:

Stop overstating BULLSHIT and I'll leave your moronic ass alone.

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Uuuuuugh. I was watching the Sopranos and I literally thought of you when Tony said, “You miserable fuck”.

Again, maybe it will make more sense if you put your shoes in mine. Let’s say you meet an Eagle fan and YOU say, “The Eagles are loaded with studs. Great line play and a fantastic TE duo. I think Alshon is good and has some special qualities but he’s not a true #1 superstar WR” and the Eagle fan says, “You’re a fucking moron. My god you are a moronic ass clown”.

Incredible you are. You’re literally insulting me up and down cause I said Dallas is stacked with all pros and Dak is good with special qualities but he’s not an MVP type. You’re one unique dude.