Series Thread: ECF: 1) Milwaukee Bucks vs 2) Toronto Raptors

Moab · May 20, 2019

Yup, he's Great Dayne for sure...same nonsense posting style and as dumb as ever

kburjr · May 20, 2019

Moab said:
Yup, he's Great Dayne for sure...same nonsense posting style and as dumb as ever

One way to find out. Make a bet with him and see if he welches

buckalis · May 21, 2019

Hambombs said:
Yeah Bledsoes defense is much better than kemba but kemba is a beast on offense. lol I would take middelton over bojan easy

I would prefer Middleton over Bogdanovic, if it was for small lineup where Middleton would play SF, but on a "three towers" lineup with Mirotic playing SF which is what the Bucks now play and proves to be the most efficient lineup they can have, I would look for another "big" wing to back up Mirotic at 3/4 (Marcus Morris?) and would prefer Bogdanovic over Middleton to start at SG...

In any case, the Bucks should end up much better off if they don't (over)pay Middleton this summer, but spend what is projected as his new salary (or even less) on adding Bojan and Morris out of free agency and if they could additionally trade Bledsoe packed with Snell and add Kemba out of free agency, they should be all set for a championship next season.

dtgold88 · May 21, 2019

Moab said:
You're wrong. The game is competed for by the guys on the floor, not in your mind or a netherworld of what ifs or if only nonsense. The fact of the matter is the Raptors won the competition by making the plays they needed to make when it counted most and the Bucks didn't. That's all there is to it, not somebody's fault because you thought it would've made the outcome different.

The game is over, the Raptors won because they made the plays and all your mental masturbation isn't going to change anything except maybe make your feeble mind feel better about the loss.

Sorry, but I'm not sorry about blasting a stupid freaking homer that can't stop looking like a moron, that is a fan of the team I'm a fan of.

well said. Just don't get some of those comments. Should Raptor fans think they should have won the close game they lost if only Gasol or Van Vleet played less?

And all this because the Bucks are "only" up 2-1.

dtgold88 · May 21, 2019

Wamu said:
I just left a comment over in the Lakers off-season thread. I'm honestly speechless. Not a sarcastic thing to say right now about it. Talk about a bad look for the Lakers heading into this summers big FA pool.

Right. A player needs to weigh the one positive which is playing with Lebron (if he even believes that is a positive) over the overall mess that LA has become

dtgold88 · May 21, 2019

buckalis said:
I didn't say I expect him to be... He said that he is! ...after barking around like a mad dog like if his sis was insulted because of me saying that if Brogdon and Hill were given time out of Middleton and Brogdon, the Bucks would have won the game...

Because it's a silly comment. Doubt Toronto fans are saying they win if only they gave away Gasol's minutes in a close loss.....and that is more reasonable than giving away Middleton's minutes.

dtgold88 · May 21, 2019

msgkings322 said:
What if the home team wins every game and the series ends 4-3, does it start then?

nope...series continues.

dtgold88 · May 21, 2019

buckalis said:
I think you still overestimate Middleton... Bojan Bogdanovic over Khris would be a better fit for the Bucks.

Kemba would be a great addition, but the Bucks would then have to trade Bledsoe.

Agree on Kemba, but not seeing Bohan over KM.

raptorlife4 · May 21, 2019

Ron G · May 21, 2019

buckalis said:
I wish they wouldn't be fouled out, but let the buckets they comited the fouls against to count... then the Bucks would have ended the game in regulation.

Fans pay to see the best players in the world play. How about this for a rule. On the players sixth foul and all subsequent fouls on that player , it is treated in a similar manner as a technical foul, two shots and the ball and any player on the floor could shoot the foul shots.

packerzrule · May 21, 2019

Ron G said:
Fans pay to see the best players in the world play. How about this for a rule. On the players sixth foul and all subsequent fouls on that player , it is treated in a similar manner as a technical foul, two shots and the ball and any player on the floor could shoot the foul shots.

Then they shouldn't foul out :suds:

Robotech · May 21, 2019

Ron G said:
Fans pay to see the best players in the world play. How about this for a rule. On the players sixth foul and all subsequent fouls on that player , it is treated in a similar manner as a technical foul, two shots and the ball and any player on the floor could shoot the foul shots.

No keep it as it is. I like the attrition aspect of games, especially ones that go to overtime. The stuff that happens earlier in the games, such as fouls, should have an impact later in the game, including OT.

buckalis · May 21, 2019

Ron G said:
Fans pay to see the best players in the world play. How about this for a rule. On the players sixth foul and all subsequent fouls on that player , it is treated in a similar manner as a technical foul, two shots and the ball and any player on the floor could shoot the foul shots.

Actually only a few out of the fans that are in a game "pay to see the best players in the world... The vast majority out of the fans that pay to be in the arena pay to see their team win... I any case, the change of the rule that you suggest would destroy the game. Every player on the floor would run on the player that has 5 (or more) fouls in the last minutes, so that he can get three points out of their best shooter.

Hambombs · May 21, 2019

Very worried For Milwaukee hope I'm wrong

GNG · May 21, 2019

buckalis said:
I would prefer Middleton over Bogdanovic, if it was for small lineup where Middleton would play SF, but on a "three towers" lineup with Mirotic playing SF which is what the Bucks now play and proves to be the most efficient lineup they can have, I would look for another "big" wing to back up Mirotic at 3/4 (Marcus Morris?) and would prefer Bogdanovic over Middleton to start at SG...

In any case, the Bucks should end up much better off if they don't (over)pay Middleton this summer, but spend what is projected as his new salary (or even less) on adding Bojan and Morris out of free agency and if they could additionally trade Bledsoe packed with Snell and add Kemba out of free agency, they should be all set for a championship next season.

Blah, Blah, Blah.

GNG · May 21, 2019

Bucks should win this one.

tlance · May 21, 2019

buckalis said:
I would prefer Middleton over Bogdanovic, if it was for small lineup where Middleton would play SF, but on a "three towers" lineup with Mirotic playing SF which is what the Bucks now play and proves to be the most efficient lineup they can have, I would look for another "big" wing to back up Mirotic at 3/4 (Marcus Morris?) and would prefer Bogdanovic over Middleton to start at SG...

In any case, the Bucks should end up much better off if they don't (over)pay Middleton this summer, but spend what is projected as his new salary (or even less) on adding Bojan and Morris out of free agency and if they could additionally trade Bledsoe packed with Snell and add Kemba out of free agency, they should be all set for a championship next season.

Did you realize that your "3 towers lineup" was atrocious in game 3?

Any time the Bucks had 2 bigs in together, they were minus. For the game it was like -30.

Some of those minutes were without Giannis, but still.

Lopez was minus 16 in 40 minutes
Mirotic was minus 11 in 29 minutes
Ilyasova was minus 3 in 12 minutes

Brogdon was plus 3 in 36- despite also ALWAYS being in when Giannis was out.
Connaughton was plus 7 in 12
Bledsoe, as bad as he was was plus 2 in 33 minutes
Middleton was -13 in 44 minutes

What are the reserve guard plus minus so much better?

Because the starting lineup that you love got boatraced and once they went to 3 guards with Giannis and
1 big they were overwhelmingly positive.

3 towers lineup is a matchup specifc group that is not effective against the Raptors.

The Bucks best lineup by far is with Brogdon at 2 and Middleton at 3 with Giannis and whichever PG is playing best. If they use 3 guards more and 3 towers less they will win games 4 and 5.

buckalis · May 21, 2019

tlance said:
Did you realize that your "3 towers lineup" was atrocious in game 3?

Any time the Bucks had 2 bigs in together, they were minus. For the game it was like -30.

Some of those minutes were without Giannis, but still.

Lopez was minus 16 in 40 minutes
Mirotic was minus 11 in 29 minutes
Ilyasova was minus 3 in 12 minutes

Brogdon was plus 3 in 36- despite also ALWAYS being in when Giannis was out.
Connaughton was plus 7 in 12
Bledsoe, as bad as he was was plus 2 in 33 minutes
Middleton was -13 in 44 minutes

What are the reserve guard plus minus so much better?

Because the starting lineup that you love got boatraced and once they went to 3 guards with Giannis and
1 big they were overwhelmingly positive.

3 towers lineup is a matchup specifc group that is not effective against the Raptors.

The Bucks best lineup by far is with Brogdon at 2 and Middleton at 3 with Giannis and whichever PG is playing best. If they use 3 guards more and 3 towers less they will win games 4 and 5.

How can one can come to a conclusion while what he posts shows exactly the opposite, beats me... Bucks being minus with 2 bigs , means that they should play ...three!

Ron G · May 21, 2019

buckalis said:
Actually only a few out of the fans that are in a game "pay to see the best players in the world... The vast majority out of the fans that pay to be in the arena pay to see their team win... I any case, the change of the rule that you suggest would destroy the game. Every player on the floor would run on the player that has 5 (or more) fouls in the last minutes, so that he can get three points out of their best shooter.

Don't they run at them now to foul them out.

Ron G · May 21, 2019

packerzrule said:
Then they shouldn't foul out

When you can explain exactly what a foul in the NBA is, they I would agree.

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