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Series Thread: WCF: 1) Golden State Warriors vs 3) Portland Trail Blazers

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But some people here would actually have you believe this Portland team was a good team. SMH

They're not?

You don't make conference finals by being a bad team

You also don'y lead in 101 of a possible 184 minutes in that same conference finals by being a bad team
 

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They're not?

You don't make conference finals by being a bad team

You also don'y lead in 101 of a possible 184 minutes in that same conference finals by being a bad team
As someone here already stated, post season is more about match ups since you have to face the same team at least 4 games and in some cases through 7 games. Also at this stage some luck plays a part too. Injuries is another factor.

OKC has RW who will shoot his team right out of many games...and that worked in Portland's favor this year. Denver was tough, but IMO inexperienced in the sense of closing out games.

In case you're wondering a good team doesn't lead in 101 of a possible 184 minutes and not win ONE GAME. Seriously. Maybe you can say they're a good team on offense as they have Dame & CJ who can score, but again even that is an arguable point since they couldn't seem to really score that well in these 4 games either.

They definitely need to work on defense. It is no secret at this point what Steph & Klay need to do to score & for the team to win...yet somehow Steph kept getting wide open looks. Dray was a beast....with ZERO adjustments being made to combat him. Through all 4 games we watched him dominate the series on BOTH ends - and then heard him talk about it in the pressers after each game - and still saw no one trying to take that threat away.

I know you and others here want to give Portland a moral victory here since they made it to the conference finals...but sugar coating what GS exposed isn't going to make them better. This is the same concept as giving all participants a trophy.
 

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So you're going to discredit your own team by saying Portland isn't good?

Some people on here are very dumb
 

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So you're going to discredit your own team by saying Portland isn't good?

Some people on here are very dumb
You're the dumb one for trying to spin leading 101 of 184 minutes with not 1 win to show for it as a positive.
 

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The more we talk about it, maybe it is a coaching issue. I just can't believe zero adjustments were made on defense to try to eliminate the open looks and to try to slow Dray down some.

Also, maybe Portland is a good team when they play other teams not named GS.
 

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Portland performed like the pretenders I knew they were.
 

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Damn I didn't realize Portland was a bad team lolzzz no one can deny they didn't play very good in the 2nd half but now they aren't a good team bc the W's got to their 5th straight Finals. It seems like even some "Warrior fans" don't even realize how truly great this Warrior team is, or at least that core. I guess every team is "not good" or "bad" lol

The Blazers biggest problem is defending, at least in this series, but they really don't have any lockdown defenders like the W's do.
 

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Blazers about to lock in 191 mil on Lillard til he’s 34.

Crippling move for the franchise
 

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They're not?

You don't make conference finals by being a bad team

You also don'y lead in 101 of a possible 184 minutes in that same conference finals by being a bad team

Part of it also is that the Warriors have been there before. In all the games you had a sense it felt like they were pacing themselves. It looked like the Blazers always came out with a ton of energy from the start, but they couldn't sustain the level of play. I think that's a real factor when you think about them blowing their leads against the Warriors. Also the Blazers must be exhausted, especially Dame and CJ, from having to carry such a heavy load during the regular season. The Warriors essentially coasted the entire season. Draymond, Klay and Steph all look incredibly fresh at this point of the season. The Warriors big three were running all game long. In addition to the Blazers having to go at the Warriors on offense, they had to chase them around on defense too, expending a ton of energy.

This is the furthest the Blazers have been in the post season with this core assembled. The Warriors experience was just as valuable as their play. Their conditioning and the ability to save themselves for the post season was absolutely a factor here too.
 

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Part of it also is that the Warriors have been there before. In all the games you had a sense it felt like they were pacing themselves. It looked like the Blazers always came out with a ton of energy from the start, but they couldn't sustain the level of play. I think that's a real factor when you think about them blowing their leads against the Warriors. Also the Blazers must be exhausted, especially Dame and CJ, from having to carry such a heavy load during the regular season. The Warriors essentially coasted the entire season. Draymond, Klay and Steph all look incredibly fresh at this point of the season. The Warriors big three were running all game long. In addition to the Blazers having to go at the Warriors on offense, they had to chase them around on defense too, expending a ton of energy.

This is the furthest the Blazers have been in the post season with this core assembled. The Warriors experience was just as valuable as their play. Their conditioning and the ability to save themselves for the post season was absolutely a factor here too.

Bad team though

53 wins and made the conference finals without their starting center.


Bad team lmao
 

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Blazers about to lock in 191 mil on Lillard til he’s 34.

Crippling move for the franchise

It's not. Dame is worth the money. It's what they do with the rest of the cap space that will determine how the franchise holds up. They have a lot of money currently committed to fringe guys like Aminu, Leonard, Harkless, and Evan Turner. Those guys combined had a salary of about 46M this season. Get those guys off the books and you can surround Dame and CJ with another third star and this team could be a power house.
 

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Part of it also is that the Warriors have been there before. In all the games you had a sense it felt like they were pacing themselves. It looked like the Blazers always came out with a ton of energy from the start, but they couldn't sustain the level of play. I think that's a real factor when you think about them blowing their leads against the Warriors. Also the Blazers must be exhausted, especially Dame and CJ, from having to carry such a heavy load during the regular season. The Warriors essentially coasted the entire season. Draymond, Klay and Steph all look incredibly fresh at this point of the season. The Warriors big three were running all game long. In addition to the Blazers having to go at the Warriors on offense, they had to chase them around on defense too, expending a ton of energy.

This is the furthest the Blazers have been in the post season with this core assembled. The Warriors experience was just as valuable as their play. Their conditioning and the ability to save themselves for the post season was absolutely a factor here too.
Not taking anything away from this, but I said something similar above. Well said.
 

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Bad team though

53 wins and made the conference finals without their starting center.


Bad team lmao

I get the want to over-react to this series because it was a sweep, but context matters. Warriors fans should not gloss over how external factors play into the results. We of all people should know that there are a multitude of different aspects that can affect an outcome of a game.
 

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Not taking anything away from this, but I said something similar above. Well said.

Apologies if it was too similar to yours, I didn't see your comment and only looking at the latest comments.
 

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Damn I didn't realize Portland was a bad team lolzzz no one can deny they didn't play very good in the 2nd half but now they aren't a good team bc the W's got to their 5th straight Finals. It seems like even some "Warrior fans" don't even realize how truly great this Warrior team is, or at least that core. I guess every team is "not good" or "bad" lol

The Blazers biggest problem is defending, at least in this series, but they really don't have any lockdown defenders like the W's do.

We're just your average championship team.
 

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The more we talk about it, maybe it is a coaching issue. I just can't believe zero adjustments were made on defense to try to eliminate the open looks and to try to slow Dray down some.

Also, maybe Portland is a good team when they play other teams not named GS.

Think its more of a matchup issue than anything. The Blazers did make adjustments, it's just that their team as constructed had a limit to what they could accomplish against the Warriors. In the first game they never sent a second defender at Steph and he went off. In games 2-4, they sent a second defender at Curry every time and it opened up the 4-3 attack going to the basket. The problem with this is that the Blazers don't have the backline defenders the Warriors do. So they can't employ the same pick and roll defense the Warriors are doing to the Blazers because instead of Draymond, Iguodala, and Klay on the back, you've got Aminu, CJ, and Leonard/Kanter/Collins.

The Blazers just didn't match up defensively with the Warriors. The Rockets were able to double steph because on their backline they had at least two good defenders in PJ Tucker and Capela. I don't think this is a coaching issue at all because Stott's made adjustments. It's just that they didn't work out.
 
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