Current HOF players

SteelersPride · May 20, 2019

Stomp said:
No love for Peyton?

yeah obvisouly forgot him

SteelersPride · May 20, 2019

richig07 said:
Donald is already a hall of famer? As in, if he retired tomorrow? I don't know about that. 5 fantastic seasons gets you close... but I wouldn't be necessarily certain about it as to include him with those other names. You almost have to include Mack then as well. Their numbers are very similar over 5 seasons.

And I would include Roethlisberger to your list.

it worked for terrell davis who was less dominant, and donald is more impressive than mack

SteelersPride · May 20, 2019

richig07 said:
We agree. As it stands, he's the NFL's equivalent to a Paul Konerko... or maybe not that since Konerko led a team to a World Series ring. However, you get the point and I digress. 440 HR's 2500 hits... a couple of MVP caliber seasons, but never was he in the conversation as being the league's best hitter.

That's how I see Ryan unless he finishes his career with a boom. I just think he's rather clearly better than Dalton, is all.

Also, I roll my eyes at whenever a fan touts a QB from the past 10-15 years as being "great" because they're top 5 or top 10 all-time in rating, yardage or TD's. No shit... Those lists will soon be almost exclusive to players from the mid-00's and onward. There's mediocre QB's from this decade who are either on all-time lists in those areas or will be. Jay Cutler and Josh Freeman are top 40 in all-time QB Rating still... I am fairly certain. Dalton will finish high on these lists as well.

It's about how you measure up to your contemporary counterparts. No sport fluctuates more with it's statistics than football. Hell... the majority of QB's in the HOF from pre-1980's had more INT's than TD's. lol. How can you compare that to the 2010's?

dalton is climbing high, hes right there knocking on the HOF door too

Myles · May 20, 2019

rmilia1 said:
If Ryan plays til he's 40 and his stats as re simply the average of his career stats ( not taking into account they're trending up )

He will finish with 72k yards , 450 TDS, a top 10 all time QB rating , a top 5 all time postseason QB rating , a minimum of 1 MVP ( maybe more ) and 1 SB appearance ( maybe more )

Given that no one behind him from 09-13 is putting up those numbers it jeans when his time comes he will likely be

Too 3 all time in yards.

Top 5 all time in TDs

Top 10 all time in QB rating

Top 5 in postseason. QB rating

And all that's if his current upward trend stops and he reverts to his average .

Sorry but that gets you in . Everytime

I agree he will get in. Personally I don't think him or Rivers should get in. Neither was ever considered one of top 3-4 QB's in the league at any time.

Shanemansj13 · May 20, 2019

Myles said:
I agree he will get in. Personally I don't think him or Rivers should get in. Neither was ever considered one of top 3-4 QB's in the league at any time.

Rivers is Jim Kelly without the SB losses and with better looking stats. I think he will get in. He has been better than Eli tbh, without those 2 SB runs and those great Giants defenses' Eli isn't sniffing the HOF. I think he is still borderline, personally I wouldn't put Eli in if it was up to me

Shanemansj13 · May 20, 2019

To answer the question, I think if Ryan keep it up for 3-4 more years which I expect him to with that ATL offense he will get in, still borderline but he will probably get in.

bksballer89 · May 20, 2019

SteelersPride said:
Adrian Peterson
Brees
Brady
Ben
Futz

Go

Leveon Bell

Myles · May 20, 2019

Shanemansj13 said:
Rivers is Jim Kelly without the SB losses and with better looking stats. I think he will get in. He has been better than Eli tbh, without those 2 SB runs and those great Giants defenses' Eli isn't sniffing the HOF. I think he is still borderline, personally I wouldn't put Eli in if it was up to me

The thing is, Superbowls and Superbowl victories add quite a bit to the resume. I would put Eli in before Rivers, but they are both borderline. Stats is always a big thing, but recent QB stats need to be taken with a grain of salt. Rivers, Eli nor Ryan have never been one of the top 3-4 QB's in the league.

Shanemansj13 · May 20, 2019

ALL CURRENT PLAYERS

LOCKS OR CLOSE TO IT

Tom Brady
Ben Roethlisberger
Adrian Peterson
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Larry Fitzgerald
Antonio Gates
Rob Gronkowski
Jason Peters
Jason Witten
JJ Watt
Julius Peppers
Antonio Brown
Adam Vinatieri
Earl Thomas
Eli Manning (they will put him in even though I don't believe he should)

ON TRACK OR TOO EARLY TO SAY

Eric Berry
A.J. Green
DeAndre Hopkins
Julio Jones
Luke Kuechly
Patrick Peterson
Matt Ryan
Tyron Smith
Ndamukong Suh
Bobby Wagner
Russell Wilson
Aaron Donald
Terrell Suggs - I think he is most likely getting in

ON THE OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW

Frank Gore
Philip Rivers
Marshawn Lynch
Clay Matthews
LeSean McCoy
Haloti Ngata
Greg Olsen

PLAYERS THAT JUST RETIRED IN THE LAST YEAR THAT ARE LOCKS

Richard Sherman
Joe Thomas
Darrelle Revis
Dwight Freeney

**Other great players not listed are either just too young or too early in their career to even list

Shanemansj13 · May 20, 2019

Myles said:
The thing is, Superbowls and Superbowl victories add quite a bit to the resume. I would put Eli in before Rivers, but they are both borderline. Stats is always a big thing, but recent QB stats need to be taken with a grain of salt. Rivers, Eli nor Ryan have never been one of the top 3-4 QB's in the league.

Ohh I agree, Eli is almost a lock. Rivers is borderline but not in at this point in time. Longevity could get him in eventually though. Getting to a SB or winning one would help his resume A LOT

CrashDavisSports · May 20, 2019

Geno Atkins

AJ Green

SteelersPride · May 20, 2019

bksballer89 said:
Leveon Bell

Yeah, right. As much as kaepernick

SteelersPride · May 20, 2019

Wait how did a poll get attached to this

bksballer89 · May 20, 2019

SteelersPride said:
Yeah, right. As much as kaepernick

I was joking. Was seeing if it would trigger you or not

rmilia1 · May 20, 2019

SteelersPride said:
Wait how did a poll get attached to this

Harold did it to "prove " Ryan isn't a HoFer to me . Which of course I never said he was right now . It's cool though he's going to keep the poll open 6-8 more years lol

Manster7588 · May 20, 2019

Shanemansj13 said:
ALL CURRENT PLAYERS

LOCKS OR CLOSE TO IT

Tom Brady
Ben Roethlisberger
Adrian Peterson
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Larry Fitzgerald
Antonio Gates
Rob Gronkowski
Jason Peters
Jason Witten
JJ Watt
Julius Peppers
Antonio Brown
Adam Vinatieri
Earl Thomas
Eli Manning (they will put him in even though I don't believe he should)

ON TRACK OR TOO EARLY TO SAY

Eric Berry
A.J. Green
DeAndre Hopkins
Julio Jones
Luke Kuechly
Patrick Peterson
Matt Ryan
Tyron Smith
Ndamukong Suh
Bobby Wagner
Russell Wilson
Aaron Donald
Terrell Suggs - I think he is most likely getting in

ON THE OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW

Frank Gore
Philip Rivers
Marshawn Lynch
Clay Matthews
LeSean McCoy
Haloti Ngata
Greg Olsen

PLAYERS THAT JUST RETIRED IN THE LAST YEAR THAT ARE LOCKS

Richard Sherman
Joe Thomas
Darrelle Revis
Dwight Freeney

**Other great players not listed are either just too young or too early in their career to even list

Good list and very accurate IMO. I'd add Andre Johnson to the Just to Retired list though.

Shanemansj13 · May 20, 2019

Manster7588 said:
Good list and very accurate IMO. I'd add Andre Johnson to the Just to Retired list though.

Ahh forgot about him. Yeah definitely a lock imo

Manster7588 · May 20, 2019

Shanemansj13 said:
Ahh forgot about him. Yeah definitely a lock imo

Honestly I figured it was just of out of sight out of mind.

I'm also including D. Ware to the list.

rmilia1 · May 20, 2019

Shanemansj13 said:
Ahh forgot about him. Yeah definitely a lock imo

Johnson will get in but I've always found it interesting that fans and media hold QBs to a different standard now because of era but no one does the same for WR or TE.

You'd think if a QB shouldn't get in because " the league is different now and the rules hugely favor offense especially the pass" that those same ideals would be applied to the people catching the ball as well

Shanemansj13 · May 20, 2019

Manster7588 said:
Honestly I figured it was just of out of sight out of mind.

I'm also including D. Ware to the list.

Forgot about Ware. He retired in 2017, right? I think he is a lock or close to a lock for HOF as well

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