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I'm not the biggest Joe Biden fan but holy shit am I gonna cry laughing when he wins the Democratic nom and everyone spectacularly calling him a racist today spends the proceeding 6 months helping Trump win re-election.
 

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I'm not the biggest Joe Biden fan but holy shit am I gonna cry laughing when he wins the Democratic nom and everyone spectacularly calling him a racist today spends the proceeding 6 months helping Trump win re-election.

My personal opinion of Joe is relatively positive for a politician. I know a lot of people that lived in Delaware when he was a senator and they loved him.

And part of me hopes the primary reason he jumped in is JUST to show the hypocrisy around how we treat Trump. Joe does a few kinda weird things and gets lambasted. Trump does 10x worse, brags about it and gets worshipped.

Biden/Sanders as a ticket would certainly shake shit up.
 

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The Dems are running a bunch of crap...now they have 2 front running old turds. Trump wins this, as it stands now.
 

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My personal opinion of Joe is relatively positive for a politician. I know a lot of people that lived in Delaware when he was a senator and they loved him.

And part of me hopes the primary reason he jumped in is JUST to show the hypocrisy around how we treat Trump. Joe does a few kinda weird things and gets lambasted. Trump does 10x worse, brags about it and gets worshipped.

Biden/Sanders as a ticket would certainly shake shit up.
The worst thing that could've happened to him was the Kavanaugh hearings. It brought up all the Anita Hill stuff and now he's anti-woman.

Now in the past week the fact that he was anti-busing - not for racist reasons but rather because he was an early recognizer that it was a batshit stupid idea to force integration - along with him having given a eulogy at Strom Thurmond's funeral and that god damn mid-90s crime bill that people on the left can't stop bleating about as if the country was some crime-free utopia needless of tough action on a shit ton of criminal fronts is all coming back to create a bigger shitstorm of "we don't want him" than Donald Trump himself received when he entered the race in 2015.

They're already eating their own and we're 8 months from the first primary. If people thought "Bernie Bros" stayed home after Hillary plotted and schemed her way to the nomination in '16 I can only imagine what these people will do if Biden wins the nomination considering they basically think of him as Donald Trump lite.
 

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I'm not thrilled with any of the democrats running (the one I like most cannot win IMO) but I do not think any of them nor the Democratic party are responsible for Trump winning two years ago or getting reelected.
 

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I'm not thrilled with any of the democrats running (the one I like most cannot win IMO) but I do not think any of them nor the Democratic party are responsible for Trump winning two years ago or getting reelected.
This is my issue also. The democrats failed miserably at controlling/promoting who would be running. Now there are too many cooks so the good candidates will get lost in the shuffle. Now if the best they got is an old white man the hypocrisy of their policies will come through, as perception becomes reality.
 

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Sorry Cheif but.... https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e4a3bfb64841


Now you can add this quote:
The White House declined to comment. “We do not comment on hostage negotiations, which is why they have been so successful during this administration,” White House press secretary Sarah Sanders wrote in an email.
Ok Sarah you should have left it at the part before the comma, but adding in the later proves they paid the money. Also that Trump sucks at negotiations.
 

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Now if the best they got is an old white man the hypocrisy of their policies will come through, as perception becomes reality.
But why is this a problem? If that's who the primary voters select, why is it a problem and why go batshit trying to bury them if they're in with a shot of winning?

Not everybody is looking for an identity politics hero to run against Trump. And even if they do they're finding problems with them - Kamala Harris' record as a prosecutor is bad because she...prosecuted people? Cory Booker is bad because as a senator for the state of New Jersey - which is probably home to half of all people who work on Wall Street - he has some ties to Wall Street!

And it's not like they're just tarring and feathering people for not being 110% in support of single-payer healthcare and free tuition, things that date back to Bernie's 2016 campaign. Oh no. Don't have the perfect answer on reparations that will literally never fucking happen? GTFO! Don't think prisoners (not ex-convicts, current prisoners) should get to vote? THEY MUST BE A REPUBLICON! These are such niche issues that will literally never be something anyone beyond a small sliver of the general electorate would ever care about and yet they're using it right now in an effort to kill good candidates before they've even had a chance to host a Hollywood fundraiser.

If this was the campaign everyone wanted, they might as well just call up ol' Crooked H and see if she's interested in giving it a third go. She might actually be the best candidate if they're going to kill everyone else.
 

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But why is this a problem? If that's who the primary voters select, why is it a problem and why go batshit trying to bury them if they're in with a shot of winning?

Not everybody is looking for an identity politics hero to run against Trump. And even if they do they're finding problems with them - Kamala Harris' record as a prosecutor is bad because she...prosecuted people? Cory Booker is bad because as a senator for the state of New Jersey - which is probably home to half of all people who work on Wall Street - he has some ties to Wall Street!

And it's not like they're just tarring and feathering people for not being 110% in support of single-payer healthcare and free tuition, things that date back to Bernie's 2016 campaign. Oh no. Don't have the perfect answer on reparations that will literally never fucking happen? GTFO! Don't think prisoners (not ex-convicts, current prisoners) should get to vote? THEY MUST BE A REPUBLICON! These are such niche issues that will literally never be something anyone beyond a small sliver of the general electorate would ever care about and yet they're using it right now in an effort to kill good candidates before they've even had a chance to host a Hollywood fundraiser.

If this was the campaign everyone wanted, they might as well just call up ol' Crooked H and see if she's interested in giving it a third go. She might actually be the best candidate if they're going to kill everyone else.


I am not stating it is a problem. The issue it is a perceived problem that will be used against them.
 

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I get that, I just don't get why. Not directed toward you but toward the radical left who seem cool with doing Trump's work for him.
Ah ok... :suds:

Exactly they really pigeon holed strong candidates out of the race because of this.
 

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This is my issue also. The democrats failed miserably at controlling/promoting who would be running. Now there are too many cooks so the good candidates will get lost in the shuffle. Now if the best they got is an old white man the hypocrisy of their policies will come through, as perception becomes reality.

To speak to I know very few Trump supporters, thank goodness. But the ones I do know are Trump supporters and actually like him; they were not voting for him because of who the democrats were running.
 
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