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Stymietee · Apr 23, 2019

skinsdad62 said:
oh please she bought and paid for that dossier and the republicans were long since out of it
and they got help from russia via a british agent and the ulraine

there was no collusion and no obstruction period

Believe what you want, I'm sticking with the facts! If you don't want to read them or choose to dismiss them out of hand, that's on you to have to deal with at the point where your denials much like Trump's ring as hollow as they currently are. So you tell me, which part of this tells you that there was no obstruction?

if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state1.

skinsdad62 · Apr 23, 2019

Stymietee said:
Believe what you want, I'm sticking with the facts! If you don't want to read them or choose to dismiss them out of hand, that's on you to have to deal with at the point where your denials much like Trump's ring as hollow as they currently are. So you tell me, which part of this tells you that there was no obstruction?

if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state1.

those are the facts , go back and research it

no evidence of collusion or obstruction or else there would be

again show me where the obstruction occurred . i have the report that states there was none

Stymietee · Apr 23, 2019

skinsdad62 said:
ok what obstruction took place

There are 10 listed in the Mueller report, they are clearly and meticulously outlined. Here ya go!

READ: Mueller Report PDF On Russia Investigation : NPR
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/18/708850903

BTW: Remember when ole' boy chided Hillary for not remembering 39 times? He said that anyone who couldn't remember that little of anything has no right to be president!

Well here's a shocker for you: I completely agree with him!

As you read through this report, please take note of the section outlining Trump's response to the written questionnaire from Mueller. Summarizing, Trump totally refused to answer all questions relating to obstruction and only responded to questions concerning collusion. Of those, he indicated that he "couldn't remember" 37 times!

Maybe by his own standard and for the good of the country he should resign!

Stymietee · Apr 23, 2019

skinsdad62 said:
those are the facts , go back and research it

no evidence of collusion or obstruction or else there would be

again show me where the obstruction occurred . i have the report that states there was none

You clearly have "alternative facts" as Kelly Ann Conway refers to them. However, this should be easy to resolve, show it or offer a link. (NOT the discredited Bar shit either)

Stymietee · Apr 23, 2019

Bar is supposed to be AG of the U.S. NOT Trump's personal representative. The shit that he pulled with his 4 page summary of the Mueller report is grounds for removal from office. That however wasn't good enough for his boss, so during his appearance before congress he actually said that he believed that there was "spying" on the Trump campaign. THAT IS CATEGORICALLY UNTRUE!

He must know that our agencies don't use terms like "spying" when "investigations" are required by law to have prior approval from a judge. Certainly getting such a court order is dependent upon "evidence" and evidence can be presented in a manner that best accomplishes that goal, that however, is the system that we live with. In effect, lawful (court approved) investigations isn't "spying!"

Stymietee · Apr 23, 2019

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ehb5 · Apr 23, 2019

reptec101 said:
Trump has spoken about and acknowledged God and Christians many times. So he didnt mention Christians in a speech and its a gotcha moment. Hehe.. you’re funny. Sweet kid.. don’t ever change.

So have Obama and Hillary...cuz they're both ya know...Christian...

And no it is not a gotcha moment at all. Try to keep up. None of this is a gotcha moment. Complaining that any of them didnt use the word Christian is moronic and indicative of how far victimhood, partisanship, and emotion has seeped into the right.

ehb5 · Apr 23, 2019

gkekoa said:
Nope. Not in the manner you are asking for it.

Actually, yes, in the manner I am asking for it.

Sharkinva · Apr 23, 2019

Stymietee said:
You clearly have "alternative facts" as Kelly Ann Conway refers to them. However, this should be easy to resolve, show it or offer a link. (NOT the discredited Bar shit either)

Remember when I used to say dont raise the bar, lower expectations??

People have come to accept that because he was not criminally charged, he did nothing wrong. Would that this was the mentality they took in all instances. But the reality is, admitting he did something wrong would mean admitting they were on the wrong side of this thing... and we cant have that.

Stymietee · Apr 23, 2019

Sharkinva said:
Remember when I used to say dont raise the bar, lower expectations??

People have come to accept that because he was not criminally charged, he did nothing wrong. Would that this was the mentality they took in all instances. But the reality is, admitting he did something wrong would mean admitting they were on the wrong side of this thing... and we cant have that.

Agreed!! In fact they cannot see their own hypocrisy in not realizing that had Clinton won and done just one (1) of the things that we know that Trump has done, impeachment hearings would have started and probably ended by now, with her removal from office.

Sharkinva · Apr 23, 2019

Stymietee said:
Agreed!! In fact they cannot see their own hypocrisy in not realizing that had Clinton won and done just one (1) of the things that we know that Trump has done, impeachment hearings would have started and probably ended by now, with her removal from office.

Fuck the noise. If Russia had been found to have even TRIED to help HIllary win, and she actually won... these guys would be calling for an annulment of the election and a declaration of war against Russia.

Rowdy · Apr 23, 2019

Stymietee said:
There are 10 listed in the Mueller report, they are clearly and meticulously outlined. Here ya go!

READ: Mueller Report PDF On Russia Investigation : NPR
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/18/708850903

BTW: Remember when ole' boy chided Hillary for not remembering 39 times? He said that anyone who couldn't remember that little of anything has no right to be president!

Well here's a shocker for you: I completely agree with him!

As you read through this report, please take note of the section outlining Trump's response to the written questionnaire from Mueller. Summarizing, Trump totally refused to answer all questions relating to obstruction and only responded to questions concerning collusion. Of those, he indicated that he "couldn't remember" 37 times!

Maybe by his own standard and for the good of the country he should resign!

No he shouldn’t, cuz he said Hillary said it 39. He only did 37, that’s two no’s short. :nono:

Rowdy · Apr 23, 2019

Sharkinva said:
Fuck the noise. If Russia had been found to have even TRIED to help HIllary win, and she actually won... these guys would be calling for an annulment of the election and a declaration of war against Russia.

That’s why obummer and company spied on the trump campaign. They were so sure she’d win and be able to cover their tracks

Stymietee · Apr 23, 2019

Sharkinva said:
Fuck the noise. If Russia had been found to have even TRIED to help HIllary win, and she actually won... these guys would be calling for an annulment of the election and a declaration of war against Russia.

I don't know about that, a war would genuinely put the Clinton Tower-Moscow in serious jeopardy!

Stymietee · Apr 23, 2019

libhater said:
No he shouldn’t, cuz he said Hillary said it 39. He only did 37, that’s two no’s short.

Give or take one or two and it's a tie. Well within the margins!

Sharkinva · Apr 23, 2019

libhater said:
That’s why obummer and company spied on the trump campaign. They were so sure she’d win and be able to cover their tracks

So wait... they were so sure that they would win that they felt the need to spy on Trump... just in case they actually won??

Rowdy · Apr 23, 2019

Sharkinva said:
So wait... they were so sure that they would win that they felt the need to spy on Trump... just in case they actually won??

Yes. They thought they’d gather enough dirt to defeat him.

Stymietee · Apr 23, 2019

libhater said:
That’s why obummer and company spied on the trump campaign. They were so sure she’d win and be able to cover their tracks

There was zero spying, none at all. Investigations by law requires an OK by a judge. This was done so no spying, just an investigation which turns out to have been justified.

Sharkinva · Apr 23, 2019

libhater said:
Yes. They thought they’d gather enough dirt to defeat him.

If they thought they would win, why would they need dirt to defeat him??

Stymietee · Apr 23, 2019

There were questions in previous posts about Obama's failure to warn the public about "Russian meddling." Here are the facts: (McConnell must be tried for treason)

Russian Election Meddling Is All On Mitch McConnell, Not ...
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/02/17/earth-to-conservatives...

Obama Warning on Russia Meddling Was 'Watered Down' By ...
https://www.newsweek.com/obama-warning-russia-meddling-was-watered...

Biden: McConnell stopped Obama from calling out Russians ...
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/23/mitch-mcconnell-russia...

McConnell owes the country a fuller explanation on Russian ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/02/20/...

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