Bye, Mick

kramer1 · Apr 9, 2019

Don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.

cincygrad · Apr 10, 2019

UC basketball is going to suck. No support from the AD, unattractive conference, a new coach that is going to be looking for his next gig. This is going to be a throwback to the Tony Yates era of Bearcat basketball.

It doesn't make much of a difference to the city of Cincinnati though... Back in the 90s when the Reds and Bengals sucked all the time, XU was inconsistent, tOSU football was average, and the Bearcats didn't even try at football, Bearcat basketball was the only game in town. Now everyone would rather watch soccer or pretend they have always liked OSU football.

cincygrad · Apr 10, 2019

If I'm wrong, i'll be with full J-Will style.

kramer1 · Apr 10, 2019

cincygrad said:
UC basketball is going to suck. No support from the AD, unattractive conference, a new coach that is going to be looking for his next gig. This is going to be a throwback to the Tony Yates era of Bearcat basketball.

It doesn't make much of a difference to the city of Cincinnati though... Back in the 90s when the Reds and Bengals sucked all the time, XU was inconsistent, tOSU football was average, and the Bearcats didn't even try at football, Bearcat basketball was the only game in town. Now everyone would rather watch soccer or pretend they have always liked OSU football.

They’ll be fine, bud. Hoping for Van Exel. Would be fine with Kennedy too.

cincygrad · Apr 10, 2019

kramer1 said:
They’ll be fine, bud. Hoping for Van Exel. Would be fine with Kennedy too.

I don't know Kramer..... Wouldn't Van Exel essentially just be the equivalent to Tony Yates? Key player turned coach, over his head in a new program? I absolutely love the dude, but I have no idea if he can coach.

I'm okay with the idea of this guy from NKU. He's done well down there.

My prediction for you is that you'll be a soccer hooligan within the next 3 years.

kramer1 · Apr 11, 2019

cincygrad said:
I don't know Kramer..... Wouldn't Van Exel essentially just be the equivalent to Tony Yates? Key player turned coach, over his head in a new program? I absolutely love the dude, but I have no idea if he can coach.

I'm okay with the idea of this guy from NKU. He's done well down there.

My prediction for you is that you'll be a soccer hooligan within the next 3 years.

Van Exel has been an nba coach for a long time now. Not sure if that translates. How hard could it be?!

The NKU dude would disappoint me greatly.

Scarf wearing soccer douche? Not a chance.

DanBengalfan · Apr 11, 2019

my path to soccer fan.

1. Kid tried baseball, hated it
2. let kids pick own sport. kid#1->football, but he wasn't mean enough. kid#2->soccer, but he's not getting playing time.
3. Soccer league begging for coaches, says they'll train me, great. both my kids on the team, great. We lose our first game 5-0 and I realize I've been duped, I start studying soccer hard core.
4. I start playing soccer with some guys at work, I tell them my dilemma, so they get used to yelling at me when I do the wrong thing, but I learn.
5. I start learning from other coaches who are better than I am.
6. Now, I'm an experienced soccer coach who still plays, I understand the game better than most people and I've been playing on Monday nights, even though the other players are much younger than me. I'll keep playing until I get injured. My #1 kid and I go to FCC games frequently, #2 kid will go occasionally, but he doesn't like to sit still.

Ojb81 · Apr 11, 2019

DanBengalfan said:
my path to soccer fan.

1. Kid tried baseball, hated it
2. let kids pick own sport. kid#1->football, but he wasn't mean enough. kid#2->soccer, but he's not getting playing time.
3. Soccer league begging for coaches, says they'll train me, great. both my kids on the team, great. We lose our first game 5-0 and I realize I've been duped, I start studying soccer hard core.
4. I start playing soccer with some guys at work, I tell them my dilemma, so they get used to yelling at me when I do the wrong thing, but I learn.
5. I start learning from other coaches who are better than I am.
6. Now, I'm an experienced soccer coach who still plays, I understand the game better than most people and I've been playing on Monday nights, even though the other players are much younger than me. I'll keep playing until I get injured. My #1 kid and I go to FCC games frequently, #2 kid will go occasionally, but he doesn't like to sit still.

^scarf-wearing douche!!

No but seriously, glad you have something you can enjoy with your kids. I meed to make it down to an FCC game here soon

Cincyfan78 · Apr 11, 2019

Here's what sucks, to me. Bohn basically ran the guy out. Now, people may not like Mick, they may point to his March success (or lack there of), but that is just 1 part of many pieces.

Bohn and Cronin never had a good relationship. That is no secrete - however, when UNLV came calling Cronin was going to take the job (he had history there, plus couldn't stand working with Bohn anymore and not getting any resources). Ono stepped in and basically promised Mick the new arena, overriding Bohn. That did not go well with Bohn, and a bad relationship was made even worse.

Bohn basically offered him an extension with little to no bump. Won nearly 90 games in 3 years, won a league title, 2 Tournament Championship - you figured, you would get something. Bohn gave him nothing. UCLA was already alluring enough, but when they are throwing 4MM a year plus hefty bonuses and perks not included in the salary and UC, whom I believe where Mick wanted to stay, is basically saying "Screw you". Yeah, he left.

Now, UC is still in a crappy conference with crappy revenue (The latest AAC media deal is a JOKE) and the resources allocated for bball are nearly non-existent, or they have been for Cronin. Maybe with him gone, Bohn will gladly pour some new resources towards Bball, but the problem is - this lasted so long the list of coaches reads like a who's who of crap. Honestly, the best name out there right now is Matta. Think about that for a moment.

Outside of that, the list is a who's who of nobody - and if by chance they get lucky, he'll be gone in 3 years and the cycle will begin again. If they miss, UC bball reverts back to the early BE days, getting hammered on the court, with no post-season in site. All because the AD got his feelings hurt by a 5'4 leprechaun.

BKBroiler9000 · Apr 11, 2019

UC should just sell its soul for Rick Pitino.

Since that’s not happening though, they resort themselves to the St. John’s/Georgetown route of hiring a former player (Van Exel) and hoping for a miracle.

It’s between NVE and the guy from NKU. Neither of which provide much optimism. I don’t think Thad Matta’s health will allow him to return to coaching anytime soon.

cincygrad · Apr 11, 2019

Cincyfan78 said:
Here's what sucks, to me. Bohn basically ran the guy out. Now, people may not like Mick, they may point to his March success (or lack there of), but that is just 1 part of many pieces.

Bohn and Cronin never had a good relationship. That is no secrete - however, when UNLV came calling Cronin was going to take the job (he had history there, plus couldn't stand working with Bohn anymore and not getting any resources). Ono stepped in and basically promised Mick the new arena, overriding Bohn. That did not go well with Bohn, and a bad relationship was made even worse.

Bohn basically offered him an extension with little to no bump. Won nearly 90 games in 3 years, won a league title, 2 Tournament Championship - you figured, you would get something. Bohn gave him nothing. UCLA was already alluring enough, but when they are throwing 4MM a year plus hefty bonuses and perks not included in the salary and UC, whom I believe where Mick wanted to stay, is basically saying "Screw you". Yeah, he left.

Now, UC is still in a crappy conference with crappy revenue (The latest AAC media deal is a JOKE) and the resources allocated for bball are nearly non-existent, or they have been for Cronin. Maybe with him gone, Bohn will gladly pour some new resources towards Bball, but the problem is - this lasted so long the list of coaches reads like a who's who of crap. Honestly, the best name out there right now is Matta. Think about that for a moment.

Outside of that, the list is a who's who of nobody - and if by chance they get lucky, he'll be gone in 3 years and the cycle will begin again. If they miss, UC bball reverts back to the early BE days, getting hammered on the court, with no post-season in site. All because the AD got his feelings hurt by a 5'4 leprechaun.

This is spot on.... One more key point - Mick ran an entirely clean program (as far as we know). This was a huge issue with him taking over for Huggins. And he ran it during a time when many other schools were getting popped for dirty play.

Cincinnati fans overrate how important Bearcat basketball is to the college basketball world. The program is getting ready to go into the toilet.

BKBroiler9000 · Apr 14, 2019

John Brannen of NKU is the new coach of the Bearcats. Not a splashy hire, but probably the right move.

cincygrad · Apr 14, 2019

Some around here won't like it, but it was the obvious choice. You can't really argue with his success in building that program. Obviously no guarantee he'll do well at UC, but it's worth a shot. Given what UC is offering, the only other option is to find someone looking for a second chance (much like the Kelvin Sampson hire at Houston).

kramer1 · Apr 15, 2019

Kenyon Martin is not happy.

cincygrad · Apr 15, 2019

kramer1 said:
Kenyon Martin is not happy.

It's not like his son was playing at UC anyway.

kramer1 · Apr 15, 2019

cincygrad said:
It's not like his son was playing at UC anyway.

Does Bobby Brannen have a son?

Cincyfan78 · Apr 15, 2019

cincygrad said:
Some around here won't like it, but it was the obvious choice. You can't really argue with his success in building that program. Obviously no guarantee he'll do well at UC, but it's worth a shot. Given what UC is offering, the only other option is to find someone looking for a second chance (much like the Kelvin Sampson hire at Houston).

His record as a recruiter is actually solid. He was part of some really good recruiting classes at VCU (final 4 team) and Alabama (pulled in multiple top 50/100 kids).

The job he did at NKU is as strong of a resume builder as you can add to a recruiting profile. He took a team to the NCAA twice in its first 3 years of D-I play - in a one bid league. That's nothing to sneeze at. They were the clear favorites to win the league last year, this year, and were favored again next year. This tells you he can construct a roster.

Most importantly, maybe, for many fans is that he runs a very open offense. Certainly is going to be a bit of a change from the past, nearly, 30 years.

cincygrad · Apr 15, 2019

kramer1 said:
Does Bobby Brannen have a son?

If he does, I certainly hope his son has a matching 90s tattoo.

kramer1 · Apr 16, 2019

Aaaaand it looks like Nysier Brooks is leaving...

Bye, Mick

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