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Funny you buy every left wing lie . I live near the Great Lakes , they are fine

You don’t want to discuss China because you buy left wing BS

China has nothing to do with protecting our environment here in America. The Great Lakes were not "fine", one caught on fire. It wasn't after enormous efforts to clean them did we see improvements. Now you want to cut the funds necessary to continue these efforts.

Why don't you just admit it, you will back Trump and figure a way to make excuses for every decision he makes. I mean we are actually debating if it's important to keep our waters clean. I never thought I'd be debating this. Ever.
 

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China has nothing to do with protecting our environment here in America. The Great Lakes were not "fine", one caught on fire. It wasn't after enormous efforts to clean them did we see improvements. Now you want to cut the funds necessary to continue these efforts.

Why don't you just admit it, you will back Trump and figure a way to make excuses for every decision he makes. I mean we are actually debating if it's important to keep our waters clean. I never thought I'd be debating this. Ever.
China has everything to do with world pollution and you are silent on it
 

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The , what aboutism deflection . Guys know it . You say Trump did something. And I say well so and so lefty did it . The what about ism as you say . And as usual you deflect to that instead of asking the simple question , what is my real Corp value here ? If you say Trump is a dick for cutting the EPA funding but ignore the guy in office did the same thing 2 things are in play . 1) your research sucks and you don’t know shit on who you suppport 2) you are just full of shit and don’t care about it anyway you just want to hate

Let me ask you this, is Obama responsible for Flint ? His EPA failed to inspect the pipes or make sure the water was safe for drinking . Why have an EPA if they don’t do that simple thing .? Instead we have quite a few dems locally in charge who put their citizens in danger on purpose .

Next let’s talk immigration and family separations . Again if you bash Trump for this practice but ignore that Obama did it too ,but you said nothing then one of 2 things are in play. The same two I listed above

The whole what about ism response are simple deflections . When your supposed Corp convictions are in play against. Someone you like well the conviction is on vacation
It makes it hard for me to believe your upset about it at all if you can’t call out your side for the same things

More will come out with this Russian collusion farce . The evidence is coming out that this was in affect a soft coup attempt and I wonder if it comes out Obama was involved in cover ups of crimes and using the IRS the DOJ , and the FBI what your responses will be ?

Lastly Trump did propose to cut the waterway projects in half . I have a solution . Give trump the money for the wall in exchange for more money for those “ desperately needed “ water cleanup projects that Obama didn’t think was necessary either .

Another question is why did Obama enter into the paris accords yet ignore our own waters .? The same argument DGF tried to pass
To me
 

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Now let’s talk emergencies ( National )

Obama declared national , national emergencies to give aid to Somalia , Libya ,Yemen Ukraine ,South Sudan ,Central Africa , Venezuela and Burundi . Now please tell me how aid to any of these countries is a national emergency to the US . Answer ? None , yet nothing from the left on these . Truth be told I don’t have an issue with us helping these countries . Worse yet , not a peep from anyone on this board about this being wrong . In fact until I brought it up most of you wouldn’t even have known about it ( if you are honest ) . Now the question begs , what is it about your news sources that you like but doesn’t present this to you ? And why trust it if it doesn’t ?

Now let’s talk about Trump and his one national emergency . The stats are there and they are hard to dispute . 90 % of drugs come through the southern border . Virtually all illegal immigration comes through there . Human trafficking comes through there by the vast majority . Our system can’t handle the numbers . This isn’t in a far away place but right here in america where our citizens are subject to all the negative effects of this problem . How many Americans have to suffer BS for the open borders crowd says uncle ? We need comprehensive border security with walls. Technology and law enforcement. Together to fix the issue . Anything less means open borders either by your will or your naïveté . It’s that simple

It’s time for my tax money to help america not foreign govts who would stab us in the back at first chance and don’t help the people it’s intended for because dictators line their pockets with it
 

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Now let’s talk emergencies ( National )

Obama declared national , national emergencies to give aid to Somalia , Libya ,Yemen Ukraine ,South Sudan ,Central Africa , Venezuela and Burundi . Now please tell me how aid to any of these countries is a national emergency to the US . Answer ? None , yet nothing from the left on these . Truth be told I don’t have an issue with us helping these countries . Worse yet , not a peep from anyone on this board about this being wrong . In fact until I brought it up most of you wouldn’t even have known about it ( if you are honest ) . Now the question begs , what is it about your news sources that you like but doesn’t present this to you ? And why trust it if it doesn’t ?

Now let’s talk about Trump and his one national emergency . The stats are there and they are hard to dispute . 90 % of drugs come through the southern border . Virtually all illegal immigration comes through there . Human trafficking comes through there by the vast majority . Our system can’t handle the numbers . This isn’t in a far away place but right here in america where our citizens are subject to all the negative effects of this problem . How many Americans have to suffer BS for the open borders crowd says uncle ? We need comprehensive border security with walls. Technology and law enforcement. Together to fix the issue . Anything less means open borders either by your will or your naïveté . It’s that simple

It’s time for my tax money to help america not foreign govts who would stab us in the back at first chance and don’t help the people it’s intended for because dictators line their pockets with it

You can’t mention what Obama did. You can’t use facts to back up the national border...

All because Obama is their poster boy and Trump is a racist. These are the rules.
 

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So so strange, you guys will go to any length to back Trump even as he pulls funding that has been necessary for a century, to protect our environment. As I said the states do not have the funds to do this job alone, they will always need the federal funding. This isn't about state's rights, it's about dollars and cents.

Trump could pass a law backing kiddie **** and you guys will create a reason to justify it. I really am not sure why I do these debates, it's talking to brick walls.

Not at all. I have been saying this far longer than Trump has been POTUS. It doesn’t matter if a state can afford these things. If the state can’t afford it, and it is still important to the state, then make regulations saving it. Wait, if you do that, the tax dollars will leave that state...so ultimately, it really is t important to the state.

I agree, it isn’t about state rights...it is about federal overreach.

Actually, he couldn’t, but now that you bring it up...

FACT CHECK: Did a TEDx Speaker Say Pedophilia Is an 'Unchangeable Sexual Orientation'?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/**...to-mcauliffe-decision-restoring-felons-rights

https://newspunch.com/democrat-elite-*********-ring-guilty/

Every Democrat Presidential Candidate in 25 Years Had ********* Ties


It is coming. They already don’t mind allowing children outside the womb to die.
 

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Awful just awful
 

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You can’t mention what Obama did. You can’t use facts to back up the national border...

All because Obama is their poster boy and Trump is a racist. These are the rules.

Simply not true. I have been critical of Obama and Hillary several times and I provided the posts. I didn't need to be prompted, I made those posts prior to being prompted unlike Dad who needed a push from me to admit that Trump is a dick.

Now we get to your group. You appear incapable of being critical of anything Trump does. Ever. Saying he's an asshole does not mean you have ever disagreed with anything he has done. This includes the record turnover in his administration, a clear sign of a dysfunctional organization, or any single decision he has made with regard to running the country. That is the behavior of a cult.
 

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China has everything to do with world pollution and you are silent on it

I am not silent on China's behavior. I have simply been discussing America's environment because that is the discussion. You continue to deflect to China means you don't have an answer for Trump's huge budget cut other than to offer our waters "are fine". LOL.

If Obama did cut funding then obviously I am opposed to that too. Know what I didn't read in your link? A budget cut of 90% of the funding.
 

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I am not silent on China's behavior. I have simply been discussing America's environment because that is the discussion. You continue to deflect to China means you don't have an answer for Trump's huge budget cut other than to offer our waters "are fine". LOL.
I gave you several answers. Try reading them
 

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I gave you several answers. Try reading them

LOL. No. No you did not. You said the waters were fine, tried to blame our bad waters on China, and then trotted out an Obama cut that I referenced in my edited post above. You're too damned quick on the responses Dad, I gotta keep that in mind as I respond to you.
 

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LOL. No. No you did not. You said the waters were fine, tried to blame our bad waters on China, and then trotted out an Obama cut that I referenced in my edited post above. You're too damned quick on the responses Dad, I gotta keep that in mind as I respond to you.
All in all it’s still an answer because if Obama didn’t see it as an issue then perhaps it isn’t . And yeah I will trot out China and others particularly when they are way behind in the environmental clean up game .
 

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So it sounds like its ok for journalists to withhold information of public interest if they expect to profit from it at a later date


Here is a proposal,


Publish the vital information because the public has a right to know and worry about your book sales later

CNN at its best
 

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How can a legit news organization do this ?
 
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