2018-2019 NBA Regular Season Thread

tlance · Feb 5, 2019

WiggyRuss said:
you are nuts

2 firsts for a 3 month rental? wtf

So Rodney Hood and Kyle Korver are worth firsts in your mind, but Love isn't worth 2?

Interesting.

gordontrue · Feb 5, 2019

flyerhawk said:
Even if all those things happen, there will be lots of teams that will have a LOT more flexibility in the offseason to make a move for Davis.

How many of those teams will be viewing him as a one-year rental?

Mecca · Feb 5, 2019

dtgold88 said:
So you keep saying, but the guy has averaged roughly 70 games a season the 4 years prior to this one. Only time he has missed playoff games was a freak injury when Olynyk tried to rip off his arm. and if he was needed this season I have no doubt he'd have been back a while ago.

Kinda Blake-ish.

Well, Blake has missed an entire Season.

dtgold88 · Feb 5, 2019

tlance said:
Okay.

Time will tell because both players are available in trade talks right now.

Reported Offers I have seen for Conley are very underwhelming.

But I do appreciate that you answered the question even though I disagree strongly.

I'll answer any direct question you ask. Trouble is many here seem to be allergic to the idea.

Indiana deal for PG seemed underwhelming but until the Oladipo injury looked pretty good, didn't it? Never mind nothing matters unless you see an actual deal made.

Stakesarehigh · Feb 5, 2019

Mecca said:
Lowry and Reggie Jackson ...lol

Reggie,.Jon Leuer and Luke Kennard plus a second

That's a great deal

Ok maybe not

Mecca · Feb 5, 2019

WiggyRuss said:
you are nuts

2 firsts for a 3 month rental? wtf

The Clippers gave up a 1st for 3 months of Jeff Green.

* turns off webcam, sobs quietly *

dtgold88 · Feb 5, 2019

tlance said:
Love signed a 5 year deal in 2015. That takes him through next year.

Next year may have been a player option, I don't feel like looking it up. But if that is a mistake, it is a tiny one.

@WiggyRuss,

If Love were expiring this year, what would teams be willing to deal for him?

I think 2 firsts minimum.

It's not an "if" he was expiring after this year, and because of this his deal would be more appealing to a wider variety of teams. At the very least, a team would offer more knowing they'd have him 4 more seasons.

tlance · Feb 5, 2019

dtgold88 said:
I'll answer any direct question you ask. Trouble is many here seem to be allergic to the idea.

Indiana deal for PG seemed underwhelming but until the Oladipo injury looked pretty good, didn't it? Never mind nothing matters unless you see an actual deal made.

Underwhelming sure.

But Indiana at least got 2 young players with upside.

Conley offers looking like vets with no upside.

Mecca · Feb 5, 2019

dtgold88 said:
I'll answer any direct question you ask. Trouble is many here seem to be allergic to the idea.

Indiana deal for PG seemed underwhelming but until the Oladipo injury looked pretty good, didn't it? Never mind nothing matters unless you see an actual deal made.

I can agree with the Olidipo part of your post.

I'd also add Cousins for Buddy.

I know I got that one wrong.

DJ · Feb 5, 2019

dtgold88 said:
So you keep saying, but the guy has averaged roughly 70 games a season the 4 years prior to this one. Only time he has missed playoff games was a freak injury when Olynyk tried to rip off his arm. and if he was needed this season I have no doubt he'd have been back a while ago.

Wrong again.....LOL.

Kevin Love Stats | Basketball-Reference.com

Before this season.....he played in 635 games in 10 seasons.....63 a season......that's injury prone.

Playing in just 4 games this season will bring that down even more...... :pound:

dtgold88 · Feb 5, 2019

Mecca said:
Kinda Blake-ish.

Well, Blake has missed an entire Season.

And missed many a playoff for nagging injuries. Love only missed playoff games for a freak injury.

tlance · Feb 5, 2019

Mecca said:
The Clippers gave up a 1st for 3 months of Jeff Green.

* turns off webcam, sobs quietly *

The Rockets offered 4 firsts for 5 months of Jimmy Butler.

And got turned down.

I know Butler is a lot more valuable than Love, just didn't think Wiggy would admit that so readily.

dtgold88 · Feb 5, 2019

Mecca said:
The Clippers gave up a 1st for 3 months of Jeff Green.

* turns off webcam, sobs quietly *

does this mean you are now saying the Cavs could get multiple firsts for Love after agreeing they couldn't get an asset for him?

WiggyRuss · Feb 5, 2019

tlance said:
Okay.

Time will tell because both players are available in trade talks right now.

Reported Offers I have seen for Conley are very underwhelming.

But I do appreciate that you answered the question even though I disagree strongly.

Why Kevin Love wanted to stay with the Cleveland Cavaliers - Terry Pluto

By Terry Pluto, The Plain Dealer

[email protected]

INDEPENDENCE, Ohio -- The day after the Cavaliers season ended with a loss at home to Golden State in the NBA Finals, Kevin Love talked to Koby Altman for more than an hour.

One of the topics was LeBron James possibly leaving via free agency. What would that mean to Love?

The All-Star forward had one more year left on his contract, plus a player-option for 2019-20.

"I want to be here," Love told Altman. "I want to be a part of it."

dtgold88 · Feb 5, 2019

DJ said:
Wrong again.....LOL.

Kevin Love Stats | Basketball-Reference.com

Before this season.....he played in 635 games in 10 seasons.....63 a season......that's injury prone.

Playing in just 4 games this season will bring that down even more......

what did I say that was wrong? Said "before this year he averaged roughly 70 per season THE LAST 4 YEARS."

Apology accepted.

Stakesarehigh · Feb 5, 2019

Mecca said:
The Clippers gave up a 1st for 3 months of Jeff Green.

* turns off webcam, sobs quietly *

What's not to like about Jeff Green? Horrible rebounder and terrible shooter from outside

He's the bestest

WiggyRuss · Feb 5, 2019

tlance said:
So Rodney Hood and Kyle Korver are worth firsts in your mind, but Love isn't worth 2?

Interesting.

would u like to retract your comment that Love had an extra year left on his deal?

your 2 first rounder comment was based on your wrong assumption that he had a year after this year left on his deal.

Mecca · Feb 5, 2019

dtgold88 said:
It's not an "if" he was expiring after this year, and because of this his deal would be more appealing to a wider variety of teams. At the very least, a team would offer more knowing they'd have him 4 more seasons.

Put your personal feeling aside for a moment.

You'd get more for a guy like Lou Williams with a longer contract because of his pay vs production.

Nobody is saying Love doesn't have worth.

He is a good player.

But, he gets you less than the Clippers got back for Blake.

Not because Blake is better.

But, because teams aren't as desperate to roll the dice on a oft-injured player with long money left on his deal.

Detroit was desperate because of their new stadium.

There will be decent, cheaper options this Summer.

Mecca · Feb 5, 2019

Stakesarehigh said:
What's not to like about Jeff Green? Horrible rebounder and terrible shooter from outside

He's the bestest

Fucker will have one Magical game.

Next 5 he'd give you 4ppg and 1 rebound.

#FoolsGold

tlance · Feb 5, 2019

WiggyRuss said:
Why Kevin Love wanted to stay with the Cleveland Cavaliers - Terry Pluto

By Terry Pluto, The Plain Dealer

[email protected]

INDEPENDENCE, Ohio -- The day after the Cavaliers season ended with a loss at home to Golden State in the NBA Finals, Kevin Love talked to Koby Altman for more than an hour.

One of the topics was LeBron James possibly leaving via free agency. What would that mean to Love?

The All-Star forward had one more year left on his contract, plus a player-option for 2019-20.

"I want to be here," Love told Altman. "I want to be a part of it."

I have no idea what any of this has to do with Love's post extension trade value.

If Gilbert keeps Love through next year, then good on him.

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