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Orange Bowl: Alabama vs Oklahoma

romeo212000

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Why isn’t Oklahoma’s talent comparable now? What’s going to change in recruiting? You saying Stoops couldn’t recruit? What are you saying?

Stoops got downright lazy recruiting. Go take a look at recruiting from 2012-2016. Zero top 10 classes.
 

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For the 2015 game, your 4 classes averaged out to be the #12 recruiting class. Clemson averaged out to be the #13 class. This year, your 4 classes averaged out to be the #11 recruiting class. This year, Clemson's is averaging out to be the #8 recruiting class. It seems the talent gap is actually getting wider. You've got the #10 class coming in (Clemson #5). That seems about par for Oklahoma. You tend to be top 15, sometimes break into the top 10, but usually right around 11 or 12.

Also, quit being such a pansy and take a fucking joke. I complimented Murray already. You're the "self-proclaimed asshole." But I guess you can dish it out but not take it.

The talent gap was on defense and in the trenches where it mattered most. Clemson has done an incredible job along their DL especially. We’ve been weak there for years. Our OL was extremely young and what experience we did have was weak in the middle of our line. That 2015 Clemson team was so much more talented where it counted it wasn’t even funny.
 

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Word got out on Mike and he wasn’t getting the players. Bobs biggest mistake was bringing Mike back.
 

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Truth is they haven’t been there enough to know how to act like they have been there before.
You're talking about our team....right?

Because a VAST majority of them WEREN'T EVEN FUCKING BORN the last time we were THE champs....and it was 15 years before THAT when the next to last one was secured.

I remember the nights they hoisted both of those trophies...but those were a long time ago Sir and I'm not sure how many more seasons I'm going to get to see.

LR needs to snag that fucking hardware POST HASTE.

...TO THE BATCOPTER!!!!
 

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The talent gap was on defense and in the trenches where it mattered most. Clemson has done an incredible job along their DL especially. We’ve been weak there for years. Our OL was extremely young and what experience we did have was weak in the middle of our line. That 2015 Clemson team was so much more talented where it counted it wasn’t even funny.

Agreed, your offensive line has gotten a lot stronger and more experienced over the last 4 years. When we played the two years, you had all the skill pieces (I mean, you had Baker at QB, who had like 4200 total yards and 45 total touchdowns to 7 turnovers, you had two solid RBs with Perine and Mixon, and were loaded at wide-out, especially sterling shepard). But your o-line was green (Like Clemson's in 2012), and Clemson's defensive front seven were able to get penetration and disrupt your game. Since then, your offensive line has gotten more solid, and it would be a lot harder to beat up your running backs and fluster your QB now, especially using a heavy scrambler like Murray over Mayfield (who was a better quarterback but didn't really add the running element). I honestly love the way your offense plays and Murray absolutely deserved the Heisman. Oklahoma's a tough out for anyone's defense.

But I do think Alabama wins, just because of your lackluster defense. Ordinarily, I give the 3 weeks of prep a lot of weight for the defense, but there are just too many weaknesses in your defense, and it gets worse as the game goes on. I think it's possible Oklahoma even goes into halftime winning. But if we say each team has 10 possessions, I think Oklahoma can go get points on 5 (maybe 6) of them. I think that's better than any other team can do against them (UGA played out of their minds offensively, and scored on 5 of 13 drives). But, at the end of the day, Oklahoma's defense is a sieve, and Alabama has an offense on par with theirs. I think Alabama can score 8 or 9 times on Oklahoma given 10 tries. West Virginia scored on 8 of 13 tries, Texas score 8 of 12 in the first game, and Oklahoma State scored on 7 of 11 (and missed a chip field goal). I think Alabama's offense is much better than any of theirs, so I think they can beat those performances. That's how I end up with a 56-31 score.

Even if that were to happen, it would still be a great season for the Sooners, and they keep climbing.
 

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Agreed, your offensive line has gotten a lot stronger and more experienced over the last 4 years. When we played the two years, you had all the skill pieces (I mean, you had Baker at QB, who had like 4200 total yards and 45 total touchdowns to 7 turnovers, you had two solid RBs with Perine and Mixon, and were loaded at wide-out, especially sterling shepard). But your o-line was green (Like Clemson's in 2012), and Clemson's defensive front seven were able to get penetration and disrupt your game. Since then, your offensive line has gotten more solid, and it would be a lot harder to beat up your running backs and fluster your QB now, especially using a heavy scrambler like Murray over Mayfield (who was a better quarterback but didn't really add the running element). I honestly love the way your offense plays and Murray absolutely deserved the Heisman. Oklahoma's a tough out for anyone's defense.

But I do think Alabama wins, just because of your lackluster defense. Ordinarily, I give the 3 weeks of prep a lot of weight for the defense, but there are just too many weaknesses in your defense, and it gets worse as the game goes on. I think it's possible Oklahoma even goes into halftime winning. But if we say each team has 10 possessions, I think Oklahoma can go get points on 5 (maybe 6) of them. I think that's better than any other team can do against them (UGA played out of their minds offensively, and scored on 5 of 13 drives). But, at the end of the day, Oklahoma's defense is a sieve, and Alabama has an offense on par with theirs. I think Alabama can score 8 or 9 times on Oklahoma given 10 tries. West Virginia scored on 8 of 13 tries, Texas score 8 of 12 in the first game, and Oklahoma State scored on 7 of 11 (and missed a chip field goal). I think Alabama's offense is much better than any of theirs, so I think they can beat those performances. That's how I end up with a 56-31 score.

Even if that were to happen, it would still be a great season for the Sooners, and they keep climbing.

I’ve got us losing too but by around 10. I don’t think they’ll beat us by 25.
 

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I’ve got us losing too but by around 10. I don’t think they’ll beat us by 25.

This is a less than 2 td game in either direction, maybe 17 at the outside, but could go either way. Depends on who shows up.
 

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OU's defense is fatally hampered with dwarfs and midgets in the defensive secondary. Look at this photograph. Yea, the guy on the right is our 5* DB who is supposed to cover 6'3" receivers. :tsk:

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OU's defense is fatally hampered with dwarfs and midgets in the defensive secondary. Look at this photograph. Yea, the guy on the right is our 5* DB who is supposed to cover 6'3" receivers. :tsk:

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5* - 5', tomato - tomahto
 

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OU's defense is fatally hampered with dwarfs and midgets in the defensive secondary. Look at this photograph. Yea, the guy on the right is our 5* DB who is supposed to cover 6'3" receivers. :tsk:

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Just in case anyone thinks this was photo shopped, it wasn't. This photograph was in the Daily Oklahoman. That DB is 5'9" tall and he's a 5* player........but he's just short as hell and is supposed to be covering tall receivers.
 

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Has the recruiting taken a great leap forward, or will OU slip to being an 8-4 team next year without Murray?
 

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Just in case anyone thinks this was photo shopped, it wasn't. This photograph was in the Daily Oklahoman. That DB is 5'9" tall and he's a 5* player........but he's just short as hell and is supposed to be covering tall receivers.
Which number are you talking about? 44?
 

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You bamers getting scared yet? Is it true they call you the crimson tide because you bleed through your tampons?
 

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You bamers getting scared yet? Is it true they call you the crimson tide because you bleed through your tampons?
But Bro.....Yall wear Crimson too.......


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