SportsHoopla's Discussion Thread after Week 12

iowajerms · Nov 17, 2018

cclxxxvdicere · Nov 19, 2018

Terry Rode said:
1. Notre Dame
2. Clemson
3. Alabama
4. Michigan
5. Georgia
6. Washington State
7. UCF
8. Oklahoma
9. LSU
10. Ohio State
11. Kentucky
12. NC State
13. Mississippi State
14. Texas
15. Florida
16. Utah State
17. Syracuse
18. Penn State
19. Utah
20. Iowa
21. West Virginia
22. Boise State
23. Washington
24. Army
25. Texas A&M

Saturday you said Clemson, Notre Dame, Michigan, Georgia, and Alabama, IN THAT ORDER, were better than UCF, make up your mind.

BamaDude · Nov 21, 2018

I've noticed a lot of people (AP, Coaches' Poll & SportsHoopla) have started to put Pitt in their Top 25. I know they've been on something of a run lately, but it seems most people haven't looked at their whole body of work. Being the least-bad team in the worst division (ACC Coastal) of P-5 football is not a good enough reason to rank them, in my opinion.

Across The Field · Nov 21, 2018

BamaDude said:
I've noticed a lot of people (AP, Coaches' Poll & SportsHoopla) have started to put Pitt in their Top 25. I know they've been on something of a run lately, but it seems most people haven't looked at their whole body of work. Being the least-bad team in the worst division (ACC Coastal) of P-5 football is not a good enough reason to rank them, in my opinion.

The close loss to ND is what's doing it, even though they were absolutely throttled by UCF and Penn State. Good for them for scheduling a monster OOC though.

TheDayMan · Nov 21, 2018

I forgot to drop West Virginia...

uncfan103 · Nov 21, 2018

Across The Field said:
The close loss to ND is what's doing it, even though they were absolutely throttled by UCF and Penn State. Good for them for scheduling a monster OOC though.

Throttled by Penn state, throttled by UCF, they’re the only d1 win UNC has this year. And their best wins are 7-4 Duke and Syracuse who is only ranked because of games they lost.

The ACC is the worst power 5 conference in the country and Pitt doesn’t deserve to be ranked. They’re schedule is worse than Cincinnati’s and their record is worse.

ericd7633 · Nov 21, 2018

uncfan103 said:
Throttled by Penn state, throttled by UCF, they’re the only d1 win UNC has this year. And their best wins are 7-4 Duke and Syracuse who is only ranked because of games they lost.

The ACC is the worst power 5 conference in the country and Pitt doesn’t deserve to be ranked. They’re schedule is worse than Cincinnati’s and their record is worse.

That's a pretty dumb thing to say.

uncfan103 · Nov 21, 2018

ericd7633 said:
That's a pretty dumb thing to say.

You’re right. I should’ve said if you replace two gimme games on Cincinnati’s schedule with a blow out loss to Penn state and a loss to Notre Dame then they’re very comparable. 7-4 Penn state and 7-4 Cincy (with losses to Notre Dame and Penn state) are pretty similar teams. Why does Penn State get the bonus points for losing games Cincinnati can lose to?

ericd7633 · Nov 21, 2018

uncfan103 said:
You’re right. I should’ve said if you replace two gimme games on Cincinnati’s schedule with a blow out loss to Penn state and a loss to Notre Dame then they’re very comparable. 7-4 Penn state and 7-4 Cincy (with losses to Notre Dame and Penn state) are pretty similar teams. Why does Penn State get the bonus points for losing games Cincinnati can lose to?

You're confusing the shit out of me. Are you trying to compare a 7-4 Penn State and a 7-4 Cincy?

Ickey Shuffle · Nov 21, 2018

uncfan103 said:
You’re right. I should’ve said if you replace two gimme games on Cincinnati’s schedule with a blow out loss to Penn state and a loss to Notre Dame then they’re very comparable. 7-4 Penn state and 7-4 Cincy (with losses to Notre Dame and Penn state) are pretty similar teams. Why does Penn State get the bonus points for losing games Cincinnati can lose to?

Uh. We're 9-2 lol @uncfan103

uncfan103 · Nov 21, 2018

Trench Mob said:
Uh. We're 9-2 lol @uncfan103

ericd7633 said:
You're confusing the shit out of me. Are you trying to compare a 7-4 Penn State and a 7-4 Cincy?

Cincinnati is 9-2. My point is that Pitt shouldn’t be ranked just for losing to Notre Dame and Penn State, because anyone can lose those games. If Cincy had lost those games instead of winning games against cupcakes nobody would consider ranking them

Deep Creek · Nov 21, 2018

BamaDude said:
I've noticed a lot of people (AP, Coaches' Poll & SportsHoopla) have started to put Pitt in their Top 25. I know they've been on something of a run lately, but it seems most people haven't looked at their whole body of work. Being the least-bad team in the worst division (ACC Coastal) of P-5 football is not a good enough reason to rank them, in my opinion.

I hear ya but there are a lot of teams that look overranked to me...not just the last of the 25. Someone has to be in the top 25.

Once you get past about 10, there are a bunch of warts. We have a lot of teams with at least 4 warts on them.

Deep Creek · Nov 21, 2018

uncfan103 said:
The ACC is the worst power 5 conference in the country and Pitt doesn’t deserve to be ranked. They’re schedule is worse than Cincinnati’s and their record is worse.

There seems to be a lot of competition for that award this year.

ericd7633 · Nov 21, 2018

uncfan103 said:
Cincinnati is 9-2. My point is that Pitt shouldn’t be ranked just for losing to Notre Dame and Penn State, because anyone can lose those games. If Cincy had lost those games instead of winning games against cupcakes nobody would consider ranking them

Pittsburgh also has wins over 1 other ranked team and three 7-4 ACC teams. Cincy's beaten nobody.

SteelersPride · Nov 21, 2018

ericd7633 said:
Pittsburgh also has wins over 1 other ranked team and three 7-4 ACC teams. Cincy's beaten nobody.

preach brother......

uncfan103 said:
Cincinnati is 9-2. My point is that Pitt shouldn’t be ranked just for losing to Notre Dame and Penn State, because anyone can lose those games. If Cincy had lost those games instead of winning games against cupcakes nobody would consider ranking them

cincy is 3rd in their own division of the american east
with top wins over south florida, ucla, and i dunno OHIO?

gtfo

uncfan103 · Nov 21, 2018

ericd7633 said:
Pittsburgh also has wins over 1 other ranked team and three 7-4 ACC teams. Cincy's beaten nobody.

SteelersPride said:
preach brother......

cincy is 3rd in their own division of the atlantic
with top wins over south florida, ucla, and i dunno OHIO?

gtfo

Syracuse, Duke, UVA, etc. are no better than South Florida, SMU and UCLA. And Pitts loss to UNC is worse than the temple loss

ericd7633 · Nov 21, 2018

uncfan103 said:
Syracuse, Duke, UVA, etc. are no better than South Florida, SMU and UCLA. And Pitts loss to UNC is worse than the temple loss

WTF? Yes they are. lol.

SteelersPride · Nov 21, 2018

uncfan103 said:
Syracuse, Duke, UVA, etc. are no better than South Florida, SMU and UCLA. And Pitts loss to UNC is worse than the temple loss

Wait cuse , duke , uva are equal to. 3-8 UCLA
Team, smu!!!! Check your head and get someone to agree with u

SteelersPride · Nov 21, 2018

ericd7633 said:
WTF? Yes they are. lol.

I know wtf logic is that

uncfan103 · Nov 21, 2018

SteelersPride said:
Wait cuse , duke , uva are equal to. 3-8 UCLA
Team, smu!!!! Check your head and get someone to agree with u

Yeah, the acc is really bad. The coastal is 7-10 out of conference against FBS teams. The AAC is 7-11 out of conference against POWER 5 opponents. The acc is 3-11 against power 5 schools (Duke and Clemson are the only acc teams to win out of conference against a power 5 school). It’s not unreasonable to think UCLA or SMU would beat Virginia or Syracuse, despite their record.

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