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The Golden State Warriors are NOTHING Without.....

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I wonder how much a ticket for Dubs-Lakers at Staples will be?

Jeez!!

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Tell that to teams like the Sacramento Kings. 12 straight years with a pick in the first 8 spots and they haven't gotten any better. They are no better now than what they were 10-12 years ago. Same with the Phoenix Suns. 3 straight years with a top 4 draft pick and they've gotten progressively worse each year. Sometimes it doesn't matter what talent you have on the court, but what talent you have coaching the talent you have on the court.

Tell me, what superstar has the Kings drafted in the last 20 years? The Kings have a miserable track record of completely whiffing on those lottery picks.

And no, Boogie Cousins is not a superstar.
 

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We get it, Terry. You can only go so long in between your "hot takes". You wanna be the board's Skip Bayless. Whatever gets you by, man.

Just another one of my unpopular opinions, I suppose lol
 

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Tell me, what superstar has the Kings drafted in the last 20 years? The Kings have a miserable track record of completely whiffing on those lottery picks.

And no, Boogie Cousins is not a superstar.

Was Steph Curry a superstar one he was drafted? Hell no. Didn't average 20+ ppg until he came back from injury. It was like Curry needed that injury to release his true potential. Or, maybe his true potential was released once he got to play with Klay and Draymond? I mean the Warriors were a losing team with Steph the first 3 years. Even the year he was injured, the Warriors were 11-15.

I think De'Aaron Fox is a superstar in the making, but before that it was probably Tyreke Evans.
 

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Tell that to teams like the Sacramento Kings. 12 straight years with a pick in the first 8 spots and they haven't gotten any better. They are no better now than what they were 10-12 years ago. Same with the Phoenix Suns. 3 straight years with a top 4 draft pick and they've gotten progressively worse each year. Sometimes it doesn't matter what talent you have on the court, but what talent you have coaching the talent you have on the court.

Sacramento has an inept front office. GS has become the GS of today because of their front office. Even though Curry had injury issues they locked him up with a team friendly extension.
GS didn’t have top 5 picks to build their roster. Curry was 11th, Thompson was 7th, Green was a 2nd round pick.
The fact they had those 3 guys and could still sign Durant speaks volumes to how well the franchise is run.

Is Kerr a quality coach? Sure. But Luke Walton coached half a season while Kerr was out and GS was 24-0 and 39-4 while he was out, so it isn’t as if Kerr is the glue who holds this team together.
 

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Sacramento has an inept front office. GS has become the GS of today because of their front office. Even though Curry had injury issues they locked him up with a team friendly extension.
GS didn’t have top 5 picks to build their roster. Curry was 11th, Thompson was 7th, Green was a 2nd round pick.
The fact they had those 3 guys and could still sign Durant speaks volumes to how well the franchise is run.

Is Kerr a quality coach? Sure. But Luke Walton coached half a season while Kerr was out and GS was 24-0 and 39-4 while he was out, so it isn’t as if Kerr is the glue who holds this team together.

I don't think Walton is 39-4 if Kerr wasn't already there for a year and brought Golden State a title.
 

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Sacramento has an inept front office. GS has become the GS of today because of their front office. Even though Curry had injury issues they locked him up with a team friendly extension.
GS didn’t have top 5 picks to build their roster. Curry was 11th, Thompson was 7th, Green was a 2nd round pick.
The fact they had those 3 guys and could still sign Durant speaks volumes to how well the franchise is run.

Is Kerr a quality coach? Sure. But Luke Walton coached half a season while Kerr was out and GS was 24-0 and 39-4 while he was out, so it isn’t as if Kerr is the glue who holds this team together.
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Well ok, Jordan made the playoffs with a 30-52 record. Seriously. 30 Wins. You call that successful? Steph's team actually won more games in his 2nd year than Jordan did in his second year.

Yeah, back in the 80s, it was a common occurrence for teams with bad records to make the playoffs.

One year the Spurs went with a 31-51 record.
 

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I don't think Walton is 39-4 if Kerr wasn't already there for a year and brought Golden State a title.

Yes, it was Kerr that brought them a championship, not the multiple guys being named to an all-NBA team or multiple guys named to the All- defensive team.

What brought GSW a title is the front office. They drafted the core of the team and have kept them together. What has kept them so dominant is selfless play and the front office taking advantage of a big bump in the salary cap and opening space to bring in Durant.

When an assistant coach can step in and the team starts 24-0 and end up 39-4 while the HC is out, it tells you all you need to know.
 

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Was Steph Curry a superstar one he was drafted? Hell no. Didn't average 20+ ppg until he came back from injury. It was like Curry needed that injury to release his true potential. Or, maybe his true potential was released once he got to play with Klay and Draymond? I mean the Warriors were a losing team with Steph the first 3 years. Even the year he was injured, the Warriors were 11-15.

I think De'Aaron Fox is a superstar in the making, but before that it was probably Tyreke Evans.

LeBron James wasn't a superstar when he was drafted. Nobody is.

But, your Curry example is pretty terrible. Because he had one of the best rookie seasons of any player drafted in the last 15 years.

17.5 PPG, 4.5 Rebs, 5.9 assists, 2.1 3PTM 1.9 steals on 46.2% from the field and 88.5% from the line. Efficiency that is almost never seen from a rookie guard.

And no. Tyreke Evans was never a superstar in the making. DeAaron Fox is not anywhere near that trajectory. Superstars are elite players, the best of the best. LeBron, KD, AD, Harden, Russ, Curry.

Troll on bro, troll on.
 

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I don't think Walton is 39-4 if Kerr wasn't already there for a year and brought Golden State a title.

I think there is a reason your opinions tend to be very unpopular. You may may want to spend some time self evaluating.
 

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Tell that to teams like the Sacramento Kings. 12 straight years with a pick in the first 8 spots and they haven't gotten any better. They are no better now than what they were 10-12 years ago. Same with the Phoenix Suns. 3 straight years with a top 4 draft pick and they've gotten progressively worse each year. Sometimes it doesn't matter what talent you have on the court, but what talent you have coaching the talent you have on the court.

Strongly disagree. Your Kings example actually points out the need to have a good GM & solid ownership - not coaching. You could pretty much guarantee that if the Warriors had the same roster for the past 5 years & a different coach (barring having an absolutely awful coach) they would have the same or very similar results.

In the NBA the roster determines the outcome much more than the coaching. Isn't it funny how Phil Jackson didn't do as well in his last several years. Did his coaching all of sudden get worse? Hell no - he just didn't have guys like Jordan, Kobe (in his prime) or Shaq on the roster. As a Wizards fan I can tell you that poor personnel decisions will hurt you much worse than bad coaching.

I am not stating that coaching is not important - just that you are overstating the importance of coaching in the NBA.
 

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Strongly disagree. Your Kings example actually points out the need to have a good GM & solid ownership - not coaching. You could pretty much guarantee that if the Warriors had the same roster for the past 5 years & a different coach (barring having an absolutely awful coach) they would have the same or very similar results.

In the NBA the roster determines the outcome much more than the coaching. Isn't it funny how Phil Jackson didn't do as well in his last several years. Did his coaching all of sudden get worse? Hell no - he just didn't have guys like Jordan, Kobe (in his prime) or Shaq on the roster. As a Wizards fan I can tell you that poor personnel decisions will hurt you much worse than bad coaching.

I am not stating that coaching is not important - just that you are overstating the importance of coaching in the NBA.

Front office hasn't change since Curry was drafted though and the Warriors struggled for 3 years after Curry was drafted. The Warriors went from a team bounced out of the first round of the playoffs to NBA Champions in Kerr's first year. I think in this instance, the coaching was a much bigger piece of the puzzle.
 

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I think there is a reason your opinions tend to be very unpopular. You may may want to spend some time self evaluating.

No thanks. I do the self evaluating before the opinion comes lol
 

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Yes, it was Kerr that brought them a championship, not the multiple guys being named to an all-NBA team or multiple guys named to the All- defensive team.

What brought GSW a title is the front office. They drafted the core of the team and have kept them together. What has kept them so dominant is selfless play and the front office taking advantage of a big bump in the salary cap and opening space to bring in Durant.

When an assistant coach can step in and the team starts 24-0 and end up 39-4 while the HC is out, it tells you all you need to know.

Thanks! It was Kerr! Those guys weren't all-NBA, All-Defensive or anything else until Kerr came along.
 

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Thanks! It was Kerr! Those guys weren't all-NBA, All-Defensive or anything else until Kerr came along.
Steve Kerr had as much to do with GSW becoming dominant as he did with the Michael Jordan Bulls teams.:suds:
 

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Steve Kerr had as much to do with GSW becoming dominant as he did with the Michael Jordan Bulls teams.:suds:

Damn, really dumbing down the impact he's had on this Warriors team huh? lol
 

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STEVE KERR.

Yes, The Golden State Warriors are not 3 time NBA Champions without their Head Coach, Steve Kerr.

Stephan Curry joined the Warriors in 09-10. Klay Thompson in 11-12 and Draymond Green in 12-13. In the years from 09-10 until Steve Kerr joined as head coach in 2014-15, which was 6 seasons, the Golden State Warriors had 2 playoff appearances, 1 playoff series win and 2 years with more than 40 wins. But, since Steve Kerr joined in 2014-15, the Warriors have gone to 4 straight NBA finals, won 3 of them and have had no less than 58 wins in each of the last 4 years.

Every last bit of the success the Warriors have had as of late belongs to Steve Kerr. Yes, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and the rest of the Warriors starters are key players, but the Warriors had Steph for 5 years and Klay for 2 years before they started winning anything substantial. Without Steve Kerr, the Golden State Warriors are still meddling in the 6th, 7th and 8th seed of the Western Conference.

If KD does indeed head south to the Inland Empire after this season...not even Kerr will be able to elevate GS past the Lakers.

What I'm trying to say...the NBA is a player's league...and if you don't have the horses, you're not going to win. A good example...HOU plays this ridiculous fire it up at will OFC under D'Antoni, but he has the horses to make it work.
 

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If KD does indeed head south to the Inland Empire after this season...not even Kerr will be able to elevate GS past the Lakers.

What I'm trying to say...the NBA is a player's league...and if you don't have the horses, you're not going to win. A good example...HOU plays this ridiculous fire it up at will OFC under D'Antoni, but he has the horses to make it work.

Golden State had Curry and Klay and Draymond before Kerr came along. All were healthy and they were only able to get to the 6th seed in the West and the 2nd round of the playoffs. Once Kerr comes in, 3 NBA titles in 4 years. Once again, not saying the players aren't a huge part of the success and definitely not saying that Curry or Klay or KD aren't talented, but I believe Steve Kerr is a more vital piece to the puzzle than any other coach on any other team.
 
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