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NFL in LA in trouble?

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People in St. Louis are not happy at all about Kroenke leaving. A big majority of them do not like the Rams. St. Louis people are kinda weird and are way more loyal to their city than most.
He pretty much kept Fisher around so long to breed apathy and make it an easier sell to move. They are pissed at him and have every right to be.
 

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It's amazing how everyone knew how stupid and shortsighted moving the Chargers was yet Spanos and the NFL did it anyway.

Basically sums up how the league runs.
even though 400 million profit in la was always bullshit, i suspect the 150 million revised estimate is still more than they wouldve made at qaulcom in san diego.....
 

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jags are looking to play 4 home games a year there. they are looking into tax implications of it.

frankly...jax doesn't support their team and London games bank

Kahn has longed to move or play games in London for a long time.

I don't see how they will be able to split their home games like that. Doing a little digging...JAX attendance is not as bad as I was thinking...low to mid 20s is where they've been ranking the last 5 yrs.

So...if he's getting roughly 510,000 (about 63,000 per game on avg.) through the gate in JAX, I wonder how much more profit is on the table for a game in London, when you factor the travel/hotel/meals, currency exchange

London works for one game per season, but one team having 4 games there I just see being a major challenge.

Having lived in FL and spent a fair amount of time in JAX...it's the one NFL city that's kind of a head scratcher...clearly it's a CFB town.
 

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People in St. Louis are not happy at all about Kroenke leaving. A big majority of them do not like the Rams. St. Louis people are kinda weird and are way more loyal to their city than most.

It's a Cardinal town...1st and foremost....imo some of the best MLB fans in the country.
 

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It's a Cardinal town...1st and foremost....imo some of the best MLB fans in the country.

oh, absolutely baseball comes first in that town and, quite honestly, the Blues were probably just as popular as the Rams when the Rams were there ....

having said that, I believe St Louis should have an NFL team .... the stadium they had was a real piece of shit and obviously the team really went downhill but I think they could easily support one.
 

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oh, absolutely baseball comes first in that town and, quite honestly, the Blues were probably just as popular as the Rams when the Rams were there ....

having said that, I believe St Louis should have an NFL team .... the stadium they had was a real piece of shit and obviously the team really went downhill but I think they could easily support one.

So you'd give them a chance at 3 strikes, huh?

NHL failed in ATL twice...we're not going to get another team...not in my lifetime.

I think STL would have bend over backwards...fully funded new stadium, and a great lease like sharing parking/concession from THEIR stadium. I see SD getting the Chargers back long before STL gets another team.
 

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LA is like the smoking hot chick we all know who can't keep a man longer than a few months . There's a reason dudes keep dropping her but dudes keep trying to get with her after. Bitch is crazy as fuck
 

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So you'd give them a chance at 3 strikes, huh?

NHL failed in ATL twice...we're not going to get another team...not in my lifetime.

I think STL would have bend over backwards...fully funded new stadium, and a great lease like sharing parking/concession from THEIR stadium. I see SD getting the Chargers back long before STL gets another team.

i think this last go around with the Rams was not the city's fault personally but maybe the Cards and Blues just own that town .... ??
 

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i think this last go around with the Rams was not the city's fault personally but maybe the Cards and Blues just own that town .... ??


Not the fans fault that the Rams product was so bad on the field.

STL was a great football town from 1999-2004 or so. Those teams were just so bad from 2005 on
 
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Well I think the Rams will do just fine in LA in the long run. They embraced the LA region far better than the Chargers did, and the Chargers moved just up the road. Rams came in hired a young head coach with offensive mindset, they weren't afraid to spend money on big names, and they are a fun offensive team.

But moving to LA is always a gamble. For one, no matter how good you are, you will always be second to the Lakers. Second, unless you are winning, and winning with glitz, you aren't going to attract a ton of fans. Simply too much to do in LA that if you aren't a fun show, there are other shows to attend.

Chargers can't even fill a soccer stadium with their own fans. Most of the time the opposing fans are louder. That enormous new stadium they are about to move into to share with the Rams will be embarrassing. The Chargers aren't even a terrible team this year, but they don't have the glamour and spotlight like the Rams do.
 

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How much longer until Rivers calls it quits? They probably have another long dry spell when that happens.
 

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Chargers won’t be leaving L.A. for at least two decades

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Chargers have a firm 20-year lease at the venue being built by Rams owner Stan Kroenke. The Chargers also hold a pair of exclusive 10-year options after the first 20-year term.

Don’t shrug at the existence of a 20-year lease and say, “Contracts were made to be broken.” Everything currently being sold at the venue — from naming rights to luxury boxes to sponsorships to advertising — hinges on at least 20 NFL games per year, for at least 20 years. Thus, a premature exit by the Chargers would be the first domino in a cascade of contractual breaches.

The first breach would surely be the biggest. Kroenke didn’t amass his fortune by not holding his business partners to their commitments. He’s shelling out billions to build the stadium, and the return on his investment relies on the Chargers honoring their commitment to play roughly 200 total games there over two decades. There’s no way Kroenke would look the other way on a way out for the Chargers absent significant compensation, from someone.
 

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i think this last go around with the Rams was not the city's fault personally but maybe the Cards and Blues just own that town .... ??

It was the cities fault. They bent the Rams over on a shitty stadium deal in which Rams had to lease and ownership got damn near nothing in concessions and parking. And every time the Rams wanted a stadium improvement, they had to go through the equivalent of an HOA. They played hardball on a new stadium until the very last second and then acted butthurt when the businessman called their bluff.
 
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