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They should just award everyone a national championship trophy at the end of the college season like they do at my 5 year olds bowling league.

Then everyone gets a participation trophy and is a winner!!!!:lol:
 

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For example, last year it would've been Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, USC and UCF. I personally don't think you should be in the Playoff if you didn't even win your own conference title.

I don't think you should be in the playoffs if you haven't played or beaten a P5 team that finished better than 10th in their conference, so, you've proved we both have opinions.

It doesn't do much for your argument when half the teams you think should have made the playoffs got their ass handed to them in bowl games.
 

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Good thing it's not going to happen because the people in charge are smarter than you.

This is what you came up with? A 7 year old could write with more wit than that
 

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There is some truth to that. But I'd likely guess there are some 2nd and maybe even 3rd place teams more impressive than anything in the Pac right now. The only 1 loss teams right now are Colorado, Oregon, and WSU. There's pretty much no chance any of them will win out. And of course if Oregon did they might end up with only 1 ranked team on their entire schedule.

Even if it's not this year, sooner or later a 3 loss team will win a major conference and that's insane to give them any sort of playoff berth. Not with so many more qualified teams available.

I am not sure why. You see NFL teams improve dramatically over the course of the season. That is with roster of adult men. This is college football, where teenagers are starting for teams. I remember Pete Carroll saying his best USC team had 2 losses in September (Carson Palmer and Troy Palalalalalallmu). It is possible that one year a 3 loss team could be the best in January. Freshmen QB grows up. AD had some balls to schedule some tough OOC games early. I am not saying it is likely, but no need to be closed minded about it
 

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:agree:

There's more important things to tweak in college football than just expanding the playoffs.
I think the first thing on the list should be no more FCS games.
Used to be the Pac counted an FCS win as .5 of a win which all but prevented them. It's not hard to put an end to it. Too many key national brands rely on them though so there is a lot of vocal opposition to ending them.
 

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They should just award everyone a national championship trophy at the end of the college season like they do at my 5 year olds bowling league.

Then everyone gets a participation trophy and is a winner!!!!:lol:
Central Florida says we like 'dis fucking guy
 

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I am not sure why. You see NFL teams improve dramatically over the course of the season. That is with roster of adult men. This is college football, where teenagers are starting for teams. I remember Pete Carroll saying his best USC team had 2 losses in September (Carson Palmer and Troy Palalalalalallmu). It is possible that one year a 3 loss team could be the best in January. Freshmen QB grows up. AD had some balls to schedule some tough OOC games early. I am not saying it is likely, but no need to be closed minded about it
Again with the comparisons to the NFL... :L They don't equate at all on any level.

The NFL has real PARITY. On a grand scale. The difference between say KC and Oakland this year? is nominal. They play a 20 game season if you count the preseason (and that isn't entirely unlike OOC slates). The NFL is often way more about depth and development to be the most complete team at the end of the season.

The NFL also only has to attempt to make a playoff. They of course try to win every game, but losing 7 or 8 games doesn't end you. It's a different mind set.

College football has 12 to 13 chances to state their cases. Just over half of the number of games the NFL plays. Losses matter. If we aren't going to use that against a team then what are we going to use? Is it possible that a 3 loss team is better than some undefeated team? Yes and it isn't rare. That's why UCF didn't belong in a playoff last year. Quality of opponent matters. Still, even if you want to look at Bama or some other example people bitch about endlessly the current system looks at ALL of the criteria. Those that want auto bids will ONLY look at conf record.

When it comes to what I've said about the Pac not belonging, you only need to watch them to see there isn't a killer team in the league this year.
 

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Again with the comparisons to the NFL... :L They don't equate at all on any level.

The NFL has real PARITY. On a grand scale. The difference between say KC and Oakland this year? is nominal. They play a 20 game season if you count the preseason (and that isn't entirely unlike OOC slates). The NFL is often way more about depth and development to be the most complete team at the end of the season.

The NFL also only has to attempt to make a playoff. They of course try to win every game, but losing 7 or 8 games doesn't end you. It's a different mind set.

College football has 12 to 13 chances to state their cases. Just over half of the number of games the NFL plays. Losses matter. If we aren't going to use that against a team then what are we going to use? Is it possible that a 3 loss team is better than some undefeated team? Yes and it isn't rare. That's why UCF didn't belong in a playoff last year. Quality of opponent matters. Still, even if you want to look at Bama or some other example people bitch about endlessly the current system looks at ALL of the criteria. Those that want auto bids will ONLY look at conf record.

When it comes to what I've said about the Pac not belonging, you only need to watch them to see there isn't a killer team in the league this year.

You lost me at the NFL is more about development than college football
 

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They should just award everyone a national championship trophy at the end of the college season like they do at my 5 year olds bowling league.

Then everyone gets a participation trophy and is a winner!!!!:lol:
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This is what you came up with? A 7 year old could write with more wit than that

Ok, and it's still not going to happen.
 

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You lost me at the NFL is more about development than college football

I see more true freshman play for a team like Alabama than I do rookies playing for NFL teams.

Pretty much only 1st round draft picks are expected to play immediately, the rest have to be developed before they are able to play, many never make it that far.
 

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Well then I can't help you.

No, please do. Tell me how a sport with free agency that picks players after college needs more development than a sport that relies on taking 17 year old athletes out of high school. Many of those athletes end up switching positions from high school to college.
 

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No, please do. Tell me how a sport with free agency that picks players after college needs more development than a sport that relies on taking 17 year old athletes out of high school. Many of those athletes end up switching positions from high school to college.
Well, first of all that's not what I said so there's that.

Second I already explained what I meant quite clearly and you said you stopped and didn't read after that point so I really can't help you.

If you can't understand how key depth (read: developing backups into serviceable) is in a league with such parity that runs 20 games on a 52 man roster in order to be peaking at the end then I'm not sure how much more clear I can make it. You obviously have no grasp on what the NFL is and how very different they are than college football. So again, I'm sorry but it appears I cannot help you.
 

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I think the committee's job is to evaluate and determine the four best teams in the country. If they truly believe that two of those teams just happen to reside in the same conference, than I don't think you punish the second place team, just because they are in the same conference as the first place team.

Bama didn't win their division yet got in after finishing 3rd in their conference. Auburn's 3 regular season losses were to 2 of the top 4 teams in the country and the 18th ranked team in the country, they beat the best team in the country yet miss out.

How was Alabama the best team last year over Ohio State with Alabama's shit schedule where their best regular season wins was over the 18th and 19th ranked teams in the country? Also, you have a conference champion in Ohio State who, yes, lost badly to Iowa, but also had better quality wins over Alabama. They had 3 wins over top 15 teams, while Alabama had 2 wins over top 20 teams and didn't even finish 1st or 2nd in their conference.
 

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I also don't think the best way to determine the best 4 teams in the country are a bunch of people's opinions where more than a few, without a doubt, have biased opinions. I'm not saying to go back to the BCS way of doing things, but bias opinions shouldn't decide to has a chance at a National Championship. Take the AP polls into consideration, whether the team won their conference title or not and look at their quality wins and losses as well as SOS. In my opinion, Alabama had no business being in the CFP last year even with Ohio State's loss to Iowa.
 

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8 game play offs 5 conference champions,G5 champion and two at large bids

I cant say a G5 team wouldn't have a fighting chance. UCF disproved that last year beating Auburn. The team that beat Bama and UGA. Theres a reason the NCAA had to recognize UCF as co champions. I'm a fan of a P5 team theres a glaring need for change imo

Go 6 to 8 decide the play offs on the field including G5.Rather than rankings and opinions. I don't think "champions" are decided by a committee. If teams want in without a conference championship go to an 8 game play off with two at large

"Mid Majors" are still FBS its not like we're talking sub divisions like FCS who FBS teams shouldn't even be playing.

I feel like the term "mid major" is created by a program like Wake Forest ( no insult @Hitman Hart ) who have never accomplish anything before and it's just a way to undermind and insult other programs who don't have the revenue and etc...

It makes little to no sense. It's even worse in College Basketball. It's toxic and whoever created it needs to have a talking to.

It feels like we're talking iin circles about the same thing for years now which is the first sign of a flawed system. I just say this... This G5 / P5 thing has brought out the most delusional and superiority complex of fans. It's fascinating to watch.
 

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Again with the comparisons to the NFL... :L They don't equate at all on any level.

The NFL has real PARITY. On a grand scale. The difference between say KC and Oakland this year? is nominal. They play a 20 game season if you count the preseason (and that isn't entirely unlike OOC slates). The NFL is often way more about depth and development to be the most complete team at the end of the season.

The NFL also only has to attempt to make a playoff. They of course try to win every game, but losing 7 or 8 games doesn't end you. It's a different mind set.

College football has 12 to 13 chances to state their cases. Just over half of the number of games the NFL plays. Losses matter. If we aren't going to use that against a team then what are we going to use? Is it possible that a 3 loss team is better than some undefeated team? Yes and it isn't rare. That's why UCF didn't belong in a playoff last year. Quality of opponent matters. Still, even if you want to look at Bama or some other example people bitch about endlessly the current system looks at ALL of the criteria. Those that want auto bids will ONLY look at conf record.

When it comes to what I've said about the Pac not belonging, you only need to watch them to see there isn't a killer team in the league this year.

You mean nominal like KC would beat the piss out of Oakland?
 

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I'm sure this has come up before but why doesnt' the NCAA got to a 6 team playoff.

Take the P5 conference champions and one at large bid for the highest ranked Mid Major or Independent team.

By doing this, you could put importance back into a conference championship which would in effect be another playoff game.

I've always hated the fact that conference champions don't always end up in the playoff. This way all 5 conference champions get it. The committee could rank them 1 thru 5 with the top 2 getting first round byes.
I don't think you can make all 5 P5 conference champions automatically make it unless you have 8 teams. If you have an 8-team then I think the best way would be P5 champs and 3 at-large. Maybe, MAYBE, in that scenario you could give the best G5 team a chance. Problem is most years even the best G5 team is nowhere near that level. Sometimes you do get a UCF from last year where you could at least argue they deserve a shot, but that's far from every year. So I don't think you can automatically give a G5 team a spot every year.
 
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