NFC Least just got interesting

Tapey · Oct 15, 2018

PhoenixEagles1 said:
Wetnz is 13-3 over his last 16. He seems fine to me as far as his injury. I'm betting he finished top 5 in the MVP voting this year too... Smith, no. But I see what youre saying.

Sure let's just cherry pick shit to make Wentz look better

PhoenixEagles1 · Oct 15, 2018

Tapey said:
Sure let's just cherry pick shit to make Wentz look better

How is that cherry picking? I just went back to his last season of games. Hes a superstar and will finish top 5 in the MVP race again and probably just about every year for the next decade.

handicappers · Oct 15, 2018

PhoenixEagles1 said:
How is that cherry picking? I just went back to his last season of games. Hes a superstar and will finish top 5 in the MVP race again and probably just about every year for the next decade.

Wrong. He's not a superstar and he hasn't won MVP. Nor will he win 10 in a row, like you claim.

Derp

PhoenixEagles1 · Oct 15, 2018

handicappers said:
Wrong. He's not a superstar and he hasn't won MVP. Nor will he win 10 in a row, like you claim.

Derp

Didn’t say he’d win 20 in a row

handicappers · Oct 15, 2018

PhoenixEagles1 said:
Didn’t say he’d win 20 in a row

I didn't say you did. I said he won't win TEN in a row, as you claimed.

rmilia1 · Oct 15, 2018

I'm not debating whether Wentz is good , he is. Actually Dak is good as well. I'm simply saying Smith is more proven than both , healthier than Wentz, has better weapons than Dak, wins at a high rate and absolutely isnt going to beat himself.

He's just the safer bet RIGHT NOW

handicappers · Oct 15, 2018

Smith > Dak > Wentz

Schmoopy1000 · Oct 15, 2018

jarntt said:
So those two years count but not the others? I think the point you are making is you will use the stats to fit your agenda

well he was a top draft pick , which means he went to one of the worst teams in the league. So of course he was gonna start his career with a horrible record.
Bottom line when he got replaced in SF he was having a career year. he didnt lose his job due to his play but due to a concussion. he is never gonna be a Dan Marino, but he has played well since his last couple years in SF. In the right systems he is a very good QB. I thought Wash. was gonna be tailor made for him. So far he is looking the part. & yes good coaching helps all QBs win. Before Harbaugh got to SF. that place was a hot mess in the coaching department.

Goff was a hot mess before they got a good coach.

Schmoopy1000 · Oct 15, 2018

rmilia1 said:
I'm not debating whether Wentz is good , he is. Actually Dak is good as well. I'm simply saying Smith is more proven than both , healthier than Wentz, has better weapons than Dak, wins at a high rate and absolutely isnt going to beat himself.

He's just the safer bet RIGHT NOW

I agree. He is very consistent & low on the mistakes

rmilia1 · Oct 15, 2018

Schmoopy1000 said:
well he was a top draft pick , which means he went to one of the worst teams in the league. So of course he was gonna start his career with a horrible record.
Bottom line when he got replaced in SF he was having a career year. he didnt lose his job due to his play but due to a concussion. he is never gonna be a Dan Marino, but he has played well since his last couple years in SF. In the right systems he is a very good QB. I thought Wash. was gonna be tailor made for him. So far he is looking the part. & yes good coaching helps all QBs win. Before Harbaugh got to SF. that place was a hot mess in the coaching department.

Goff was a hot mess before they got a good coach.

Niners never fully committed to Smith til 2011. He has 1 full season of starting ( 2005 ) his first 7 years in the league and never started more than 11 after 05 until 09 and 10 ( and in those years he actually played ok ). In 11 they committed to him and the rest is history. It really is odd that people are so unwilling to admit he's good

Schmoopy1000 · Oct 15, 2018

rmilia1 said:
Niners never fully committed to Smith til 2011. He has 1 full season of starting ( 2005 ) his first 7 years in the league and never started more than 11 after 05 until 09 and 10 ( and in those years he actually played ok ). In 11 they committed to him and the rest is history. It really is odd that people are so unwilling to admit he's good

Thats because he is unspectacular. But he is a very solid QB.
I was more worried about Smith going to the skins than the skins keeping Cousins.

PhoenixEagles1 · Oct 15, 2018

handicappers said:
I didn't say you did. I said he won't win TEN in a row, as you claimed.

Woops. Didn’t mean to write 20. I never said he would win 10 in a row either.

handicappers · Oct 16, 2018

PhoenixEagles1 said:
Woops. Didn’t mean to write 20. I never said he would win 10 in a row either.

Yes you did

rmilia1 · Oct 16, 2018

Schmoopy1000 said:
Thats because he is unspectacular. But he is a very solid QB.
I was more worried about Smith going to the skins than the skins keeping Cousins.

Yeah I was telling the Chiefs fans I thought this was a rare trade where both teams get better instantly. The chiefs are loaded with skill guys and needed a QB who was willing to take risks especially because their d is so bad they need to score which means you take chances . The skins have the perfect roster for Smith and their D is ok. Not great not bad but cousins just put them in bad spots far too often . Smith makes their d better just by not doing that . That alone adds a couple wins a year imo.

jarntt · Oct 16, 2018

rmilia1 said:
Every year counts but ( as stated ) if you need yo go back that far to make a case you've already lost imo. Smith is a funny case study . Guy puts up good numbers , wins and from all accounts is a good dude yet for whatever reason people refuse to believe he's good. If Washington wins the division we will all be deluged with posts about how they did so inspite of Smithvas opposed to because of him

You are the one that went back that far when you mentioned everywhere he goes :noidea:

jarntt · Oct 16, 2018

Schmoopy1000 said:
I agree. He is very consistent & low on the mistakes

He's low on everything...

Manster7588 · Oct 16, 2018

Schmoopy1000 said:
Thats because he is unspectacular. But he is a very solid QB.
I was more worried about Smith going to the skins than the skins keeping Cousins.

Not me, I'd much rather face Smith over Cousins. I'm glad the Skins botched up the Cousins situation.

rmilia1 · Oct 16, 2018

jarntt said:
You are the one that went back that far when you mentioned everywhere he goes

Well when people are "shocked " o might think he's quite good the only explanation is they're basing that belief off of 10+ years ago because since 09 he's been a solid to very good NFL QB

Manster7588 · Oct 16, 2018

rmilia1 said:
Well when people are "shocked " o might think he's quite good the only explanation is they're basing that belief off of 10+ years ago because since 09 he's been a solid to very good NFL QB

I'd say being Not Bad doesn't equal Very Good.

rmilia1 · Oct 16, 2018

Manster7588 said:
I'd say being Not Bad doesn't equal Very Good.

He's been far better than not bad especially over the past 5-6 yeaes

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