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Total QBR is an excellent tool to judge how a QB is playing.

So are the stats that are kept for "tight window accuracy".

Carr is a serviceable QB, but the HC needs to stop being a casual football fan and start acting like a HC.
 

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I keep seeing people say this yet Ryan ranks in the top 5 most every year for deep ball efficiency . You think it's just the wideouts are thst good ? Could be. He's had some great ones

Yeah the trio he has this year is one of the best in my opinion.
I think that is part of the problem I have. I see about 4-7 Falcon games a year (spend a lot of time in Atlanta so I can catch plenty of their games on TV) but when I watch it seems like his deep ball skills lack vs others. Just might be I watch the wrong games but not sure? This year doesn't help with their offensive line and lack of protection for him.
 

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Who's to say that there would even be an opportunity if the flag wasn't thrown earlier? Come on derpski! Be smarter! :suds:

This.

I want to agree but it’s just hard to assume a game will go exactly the same from that point forward if the call was different. Kind of like a check swing in baseball turning into a walk instead of a strikeout. Everything changes after that. Pitchers will throw different pitches which lead to different results. I have faith that Rodgers would’ve still put us in a position to win in the 4th. :suds:

That game was so close the whole way through that I think it's hard to say that either team being gifted points by petty calls wasn't a big deal. But back to my point, regardless of the "impact on the game", I just think it would have been a travesty if they had *not* called Matthews after they called Kendricks for the same thing earlier. Had Kendricks gotten a pass on that and not been called, I'd have been completely fine with them not calling Matthews for it later in the game. But that's not how they had established they were going to call that game, so IMO, they had to stick with the way they were calling it.

Nothing against you though, seriously. I agree with you that the new RTP rules are garbage. But the one thing that annoys me more than garbage rules is when refs don't call individual games consistently. It's bad enough that they can never seem to get it straight with all of the different games on a week-to-week basis, and even more infuriating when they can't even keep it together for individual games.
 

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Yeah the trio he has this year is one of the best in my opinion.
I think that is part of the problem I have. I see about 4-7 Falcon games a year (spend a lot of time in Atlanta so I can catch plenty of their games on TV) but when I watch it seems like his deep ball skills lack vs others. Just might be I watch the wrong games but not sure? This year doesn't help with their offensive line and lack of protection for him.
Lines been ok til last game . I mean the offense is putting up 27 ppg so I can't complain. D is just decimated by injury but they've got no depth so when you get injuries you are going to suffer. That's on the staff .Even an average D and they'd be 3-2 right now . Hopefully they address it in the off-season
 

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Lines been ok til last game . I mean the offense is putting up 27 ppg so I can't complain. D is just decimated by injury but they've got no depth so when you get injuries you are going to suffer. That's on the staff .Even an average D and they'd be 3-2 right now . Hopefully they address it in the off-season
Yeah that killed all chances this season of a Superbowl at home.
 

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Total QBR is an excellent tool to judge how a QB is playing.

So are the stats that are kept for "tight window accuracy".

Carr is a serviceable QB, but the HC needs to stop being a casual football fan and start acting like a HC.

Tight window throws... haha. Wasn’t Dak #1? That’s an awful stat cause Dak has been really bad most of this year.
 

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Tight window throws... haha. Wasn’t Dak #1? That’s an awful stat cause Dak has been really bad most of this year.
Dak is neither as good as was claimed in 16 or as bad as he's made out to be now. He's a top 13-17 QB imo. Got the benefit of a great line, rb in 16 and had decent skill guys . Has none of that now save the rb
 

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Tight window throws... haha. Wasn’t Dak #1? That’s an awful stat cause Dak has been really bad most of this year.


Dak is one of the best. However, now he's got a team full of butter hands. All his picks are due to low level WR's not being able to properly catch a perfectly placed ball from a ROY QB that is destined for greatness.
 

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Dak is one of the best. However, now he's got a team full of butter hands. All his picks are due to low level WR's not being able to properly catch a perfectly placed ball from a ROY QB that is destined for greatness.
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Does @PhoenixEagles1 have to put you in your place day after day? He wins... you lose.
 

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wrong again, pillow biter. I've been ownin' that fool for years now. You wouldn't know cause of all the time you spend getting your dong kicked in by PeterGozintite
He totally owns you. You’re nothing but a pawn in his game.

If “dong kicked in” means gently kissed... then you are correct good sir.
 

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He totally owns you. You’re nothing but a pawn in his game.

If “dong kicked in” means gently kissed... then you are correct good sir.


I totally own PE1. Been kickin' his head in since before you finally gave up getting served by PeterGozintite.

Your game is weak and you talk about gay shit too much...that's why you're a queer.
 

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I totally own PE1. Been kickin' his head in since before you finally gave up getting served by PeterGozintite.

Your game is weak and you talk about gay shit too much...that's why you're a queer.

Yeah... you’ve been kicking my head in. Especially with the post a couple up from here saying “Dak is great” and “Dak is destined for greatness”. That is 100% kicking my head in.
 

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I keep seeing people say this yet Ryan ranks in the top 5 most every year for deep ball efficiency . You think it's just the wideouts are thst good ? Could be. He's had some great ones

Imagine what Aaron Rodgers in his prime coulda done with Julio Jones....
 

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Imagine what Aaron Rodgers in his prime coulda done with Julio Jones....
For sure . Ryan is no Rodgers but he's far from overrated . Consistently top 5-10 QB, sometimes top 5.
 

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Why do people care about Pro Bowls? Why does that mean a player is good or not?

No different than an all-star game in another sport... or being all-conference or all-american in college. It means that it was widely considered that you were among the very best in the game at your position in a given season.

FWIW - I'm somewhat losing faith in Carr and I don't mean the above paragraph as an endorsement for him being good.
 

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No different than an all-star game in another sport... or being all-conference or all-american in college. It means that it was widely considered that you were among the very best in the game at your position in a given season.

FWIW - I'm somewhat losing faith in Carr and I don't mean the above paragraph as an endorsement for him being good.

The All Star game being selected is a joke, its a popularity contest. Pro Bowls don't mean much to me either because it's just another "fun" thing to play in. I get what you're saying though
 

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I totally own PE1. Been kickin' his head in since before you finally gave up getting served by PeterGozintite.

Your game is weak and you talk about gay shit too much...that's why you're a queer.

Goldenspur owns you.
PE1 owns you
NWPatsfan owns you
Damn near everyone you banter with owns you.
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