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This team is playing like the 2010 team. Expect major coaching change as jerruh won't tolerate missing the playoffs. They can't let Richard leave like Zimmer and Peyton. And to be honest dak is not a franchise Qb. He has stunk since the Falcon game
 

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Ridley is building a tight connection with Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan, as evidenced by his seven catches on eight targets for 146 yards and three touchdowns. But we did not need a number #1 wide receiver:L
 

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The way Romo was tore down by Cowboy fans and the media after throwing for 500 yards and 5 TDs and losing against the Broncos tells you all you need to know about this fan base and the media.

Earl, for the most part, I always enjoy reading your posts. These last few are over the top, however.

There were a few who were always putting most of the blame on Romo, but most of us could see that Romo was also a part of the problem, even if not all of the problem - like Dak.

Yes, with Romo there was always a chance that he would do some amazing shit and the win was a possibility. Yet, with Romo there was also always the chance that he would do something boneheaded just when the game was on the line.

Romo was fun to watch at times and exasperating to watch at times.

Yesterday, Dak made some pretty God-awful throws. No, it wasn't all his fault. The o-line gave him little protection most of the game and the play-calling was absolutely predictable again. Yet, if you watched that game and didn't come away with the fact that Dak made a lot of horrible passes, then you are every bit as lopsided in your praise of Dak as you accuse others of being anti-Dak.

Most of us aren't anti-Dak, just like most of us weren't anti-Romo. It's just when the product is subpar, we call it like we see it.
 

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Romo was 100% PART of the problem for many big Cowboy losses. Dak is 100% PART of the problem right now. Team game and all have a role and the QBs role will always be biggest. Romo was a very good NFL QB that took stupid chances at times when they weren't needed. Dak has been at times a very good NFL QB that has recently seen far too many drives where we just didn't get it done. Yes, we can blame the OL and the receivers and the OC and the HC and Zeke stepping out...BUT at some point when you are the QB of an NFL team you need to get it done even with all of these problems and you can't make excuses when you don't. Dak needs to get back to being the guy that was able to do this and win games. All else is forgiven when you win, but when you lose you need to be accountable and right now he needs to be better or we go nowhere.:2cents:
 

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This team is playing like the 2010 team. Expect major coaching change as jerruh won't tolerate missing the playoffs. They can't let Richard leave like Zimmer and Peyton. And to be honest dak is not a franchise Qb. He has stunk since the Falcon game

The worst thing that could happen, is to have to look for a new QB next year. I sure hope Dak is the answer for all cowboy fans. If he is not, it will be a long time before we win again, and I am getting too old for this B.S.
 

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Dak is no where near the passer Romo was. Don't compare the two. I have no problem with Dak taking heat along with the coaches.
Romo had an entire career and way better weapons. Romo after two years was criticized as much if not more than Dak. Hindsight 20/20.
 

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Romo had an entire career and way better weapons. Romo after two years was criticized as much if not more than Dak. Hindsight 20/20.
The difference is: You never had to worry about Romo's accuracy passing the ball from day one. Dak, not so much. They both had critics, but for different reasons.
 

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The difference is: You never had to worry about Romo's accuracy passing the ball from day one. Dak, not so much. They both had critics, but for different reasons.
Ummm what? Romo threw 3 interceptions in his first game against the Giants taking over Bledsoe. He had a 3.9 Int% in 10 games in 06. He had a 3.7 Int% in the 13-3 2007 season. This was all with prime TO and prime Witten
and Glenn was still good in 06. Jesus Christ.
 

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It would be a big mistake for us to trade a 1st round pick for earl thomas. The Cowboys look terrible and will be lucky to win 5 or 6 games if this continues and lots of injuries happen. The Cowboys dropped 2 games to average teams. The panthers and seahawks don't look like playoff teams to me. I expected better play from Dak and the offense.
 

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Ummm what? Romo threw 3 interceptions in his first game against the Giants taking over Bledsoe. He had a 3.9 Int% in 10 games in 06. He had a 3.7 Int% in the 13-3 2007 season. This was all with prime TO and prime Witten
and Glenn was still good in 06. Jesus Christ.

I don't think INT % is a valid argument to discredit Romo's accuracy in comparison to Dak. Romo took WAAAYYY more risks than Dak. Romo threw a far more accurate ball than Dak. Romo made the large majority of his receivers better because of his ability to throw guys open. To this point there is literally not one receiver Dak has played with that I would say is/was better because of it, and that is largely because Dak has trouble with his accuracy.
 

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It would be a big mistake for us to trade a 1st round pick for earl thomas. The Cowboys look terrible and will be lucky to win 5 or 6 games if this continues and lots of injuries happen. The Cowboys dropped 2 games to average teams. The panthers and seahawks don't look like playoff teams to me. I expected better play from Dak and the offense.
You talking about the Panthers and Seahawks as if the Cowboys should have beaten them. The Cowboys aren’t good after three weeks.
 

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I don't think INT % is a valid argument to discredit Romo's accuracy in comparison to Dak. Romo took WAAAYYY more risks than Dak. Romo threw a far more accurate ball than Dak. Romo made the large majority of his receivers better because of his ability to throw guys open. To this point there is literally not one receiver Dak has played with that I would say is/was better because of it, and that is largely because Dak has trouble with his accuracy.
How is that not a valid argument? Throwing the ball to the other team is in fact an accuracy issue and exemplifies erratic QB play. Romo didn’t make Witten, Dez, TO, and Austin better. Witten is first ballot, TO should have been first ballot. Austin in his prime was one of the best route runners the Cowboys have ever had. Dez is the most gifted athlete Dallas has ever had at the WR position. Just stop.
 

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Dak and Romo have nearly identical career completion percentages. One QB had way better weapons than the other. One QB threw way more interceptions than the other. This narrative that Romo was more accurate is a complete fallacy.
 

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What separates Dak and Romo was Romo ability to read defenses, keep his eyes downfield while being pressured. Romo might be top 5 all time in NFL history when it comes to pocket presence. But when it comes to accuracy and decision-making, Romo was not always great.
 

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Lol, starting to poke.
I’ve rewatched yesterday’s game three times and just like every year that Romo was here, I came to the conclusion that the quarterback was the least of the team’s problems. Has Dak been a problem? Absolutely, but not the problem that people think he is. Linehan, the lack of a security blanket(Witten), no weapons at WR that instill fear in the defense, and Zeke’s ineptitude in the passing game remain big issues. Rod Smith is much better as a receiving back and is not even getting snaps.
 

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Rod Smith has one touch all season
 

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How is that not a valid argument? Throwing the ball to the other team is in fact an accuracy issue and exemplifies erratic QB play. Romo didn’t make Witten, Dez, TO, and Austin better. Witten is first ballot, TO should have been first ballot. Austin in his prime was one of the best route runners the Cowboys have ever had. Dez is the most gifted athlete Dallas has ever had at the WR position. Just stop.

I have been fairly critical of Romo over the years so don't count me among his homer fans on this board, but damn man you are pretty far off.

I imagine Romo and Witten playing together for practically their entire careers had nothing to do with Witten's success. Sure :L. Witten is a HOF, but you're kidding yourself if you think Romo was not a big part of his success.

T.O. was legit great no matter who he played with. No argument there.

Dez's bread and butter was the back shoulder fade that Romo executed to perfection. That's not an easy throw to make -- just ask Dak Prescott. Yeah sure, Dez got hurt one year, but it's no coincidence that Dez fell off the map in his physical prime once Dak became starter, because Dak was incapable of executing the one throw/route that Dez made a large majority of his money on.

Miles Austin was just a more athletic version of Laurent Robinson. Oh that's right, that other guy who Romo made into an overnight star and got him paid big bucks.

Have we forgot how Tony Romo fooled people into thinking Terrance Williams was maybe a legit #2 WR? Just another example of a WR who should be in his physical prime that fell off a cliff when Dak took over.

Hell, Romo could coax 600-700 yards a year out of Patrick fucking Crayton. Arguably the worst "#2" WR I have ever seen.

Dak is the kind of QB that on 3rd and 15 the coaching staff is just going to pack it in and do something safe, like run a screen pass. Romo was the kind of QB that on 3rd and 15 the coaches would let him challenge a defense and often enough he would execute in those situations. That's kind of what I mean when I say Romo's INT% isn't exactly the greatest indicator of accuracy. Dak attempts a lot of safe throws, where as Romo attempted a lot more difficult throws.

Earl, you don't have to agree with me. I'm okay with you being wrong. :suds:
 

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I have been fairly critical of Romo over the years so don't count me among his homer fans on this board, but damn man you are pretty far off.

I imagine Romo and Witten playing together for practically their entire careers had nothing to do with Witten's success. Sure :L. Witten is a HOF, but you're kidding yourself if you think Romo was not a big part of his success.

T.O. was legit great no matter who he played with. No argument there.

Dez's bread and butter was the back shoulder fade that Romo executed to perfection. That's not an easy throw to make -- just ask Dak Prescott. Yeah sure, Dez got hurt one year, but it's no coincidence that Dez fell off the map in his physical prime once Dak became starter, because Dak was incapable of executing the one throw/route that Dez made a large majority of his money on.

Miles Austin was just a more athletic version of Laurent Robinson. Oh that's right, that other guy who Romo made into an overnight star and got him paid big bucks.

Have we forgot how Tony Romo fooled people into thinking Terrance Williams was maybe a legit #2 WR? Just another example of a WR who should be in his physical prime that fell off a cliff when Dak took over.

Hell, Romo could coax 600-700 yards a year out of Patrick fucking Crayton. Arguably the worst "#2" WR I have ever seen.

Dak is the kind of QB that on 3rd and 15 the coaching staff is just going to pack it in and do something safe, like run a screen pass. Romo was the kind of QB that on 3rd and 15 the coaches would let him challenge a defense and often enough he would execute in those situations. That's kind of what I mean when I say Romo's INT% isn't exactly the greatest indicator of accuracy. Dak attempts a lot of safe throws, where as Romo attempted a lot more difficult throws.

Earl, you don't have to agree with me. I'm okay with you being wrong. :suds:
. Witten was a 2x Pro Bowler before Romo was even a thought for starting QB in Dallas. Witten did not need Romo. You’re the one that’s far off. Dez and Romo just like Dak and Dez got off to a rocky start. It took years before Romo and Dez clicked. This is revionist history. Miles Austin for one year was a top 5 WR in the NFL. Romo did not make him. Injuries ruined him. Laurent Robinson is legit the only WR that Romo “made.”

Dak does not always make safe throws. Dak is just better at not turning the ball over than Romo was. Only one QB threw into more coverage than Dak last year. Dak is one of the best tight window passers in the NFL. Garrett was calling plays the majority of Romo career. Linehan is way more conservative and inept at playcalling than Garrett ever was.

Int% is a great indicator of accuracy. Romo was launching interceptions and interceptable passes left and right early in his career. You guys are trying to rewrite history just because Romo isn’t playing anymore. There were stretches when the offense played bad during Romo era as well. That’s how Garrett lost playcalling duties.

Romo after 10 years of starting is no question a better QB than Dak after two years of starting. But it took Romo years to become a top 10 QB. He wasn’t really good off the bat. His weapons and Garretts playcalling back in 2007 when it was a breath of fresh air and not yet predictable was helping Romo be very successful. The more teams caught onto Garrett, the more mediocre the offense became, the more we finished 8-8 and wasted Romo’s prime years during which he became a top 10 QB.
 
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I’m trying real hard to stay out of this. It’s not really worth it. People are going to back who they want to. There are so many ways to spin stats. If u look hard enough you can find a few to support your argument whichever way you want.
 
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