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Defensive lines definitely do.
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What did North Texas ever do to you to deserve such an insult?
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Look I get you don't want to be associated with Oklahoma but unfortunately you're stuck with them.
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Well, no. Oklahoma is whatever region Texas is. I don’t know and I don’t care, but it ain’t the Midwest.
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End of the day, we're 4-0 with another win. Our D got many needed reps. Kenneth Murray set an OU record. Had our O taken care of business, our D wouldn't have had to play so hard.
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Son, Oklahoma is more Midwest than Ohio is. Ohio is Mideast. Texas is a big state. Hell, they are 3-4 regions all by themselves.
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Mideast? You mean like Iraq and Syria?
No sir. The Midwest starts when you cross the Appalachian mountains. It’s the part of the country that was known as “the West” by citizens of the new nation just after independence from Britain, and was never settled by the British. What is now Wisconsin, Illinois and Indiana was called “the Northwest Territories”. That’s why you’ve got Northwestern University in Chicago.
People started calling it the “Middle West”, or Midwest, as the country spread even farther to what we now call the West. Oklahoma is the West, not the Midwest. They had cowboys and Indians and shit.
That’s the history, but even today, Milwaukee has a hell of a lot more in common with Buffalo or Toledo than Tulsa. The Midwest largely coincides with the Rust Belt.
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Oklahoma City is a hell of a lot closer to Madison, Springfield, and Indianapolis than Sacramento, Salem and Olympia. (Using state capitals, not campus locations.)
OKC to Madison 839 miles
OKC to Springfield 596 miles
OKC to Indianapolis 741 miles
OKC to Sacramento 1,626 miles
OKC to Salem 1,972 miles
OKC to Olympia 2,032 miles
Oklahoma City is not the "West" even if they have cowboys and Indians and shit.
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The other divider is climate. The 100th meridian, where the climate pretty suddenly gets very arid compared to the eastern US and Midwest, is the western boundary of the Midwest:
Parts of Kansas and Nebraska are in the Midwest (and they’re the parts with most of the population). But most of the land area is not. The sand hills of western Nebraska and Kansas are part of the interior West.
Oklahoma is both too far west and too far south to be part of the Midwest.
Parts of Kansas and Nebraska are in the Midwest (and they’re the parts with most of the population). But most of the land area is not. The sand hills of western Nebraska and Kansas are part of the interior West.
Oklahoma is both too far west and too far south to be part of the Midwest.
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What happened to this dadburn thread?? Are we really arguing about the geographic region of Oklahoma?
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This doesn’t matter. The West is big. Everyone knows this.
I mean, all of New England would fit inside of Texas or California. That doesn’t mean we shift the borders to make it bigger. And distance is relative. Here in England a two hour drive is considered a long way, because it’s a small country. In Texas it’s practically a commute. What you’re saying is like saying that New York City is really in New Jersey, because it’s closer to Trenton than Albany. It’s irrelevant.
The West is just bigger than the Midwest or the South, which are both bigger than the Northeast. States and regions get bigger as one moves south and west toward the newer, more sparsely populated parts of the country.
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I'll agree Oklahoma ain't the "Midwest". But it damn sure ain't the "West" either...geographically or cuturally. Norman, OK ain't a thing like Berkley, CA cuturally. I can assure you of that!
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Coastal California isn’t necessarily representative of “the West” either. California is California. And if you’re going to use that benchmark, then what the hell is Provo, Utah?
Really you need to think of more distinct regions (New England, the Mid-Atlantic, the Deep South, the Great Lakes, the Southwest, the Pacific Northwest, etc). But anyway...
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There is only one Oklahoma.
After reflection we won, so I'm happy. The defense couldn't muster tfls to put army 3rd and long and they killed us with long sustained drives. 45 mins time of possession for Army, my God!
They came up big in the 4th and OT so there's a ray of sunshine. Offense is way explosive and needs to learn to put together those long drives. We should have muscled army with punishing ground game and we didn't. Riley needs to work on that if we want to win the cfp.
After reflection we won, so I'm happy. The defense couldn't muster tfls to put army 3rd and long and they killed us with long sustained drives. 45 mins time of possession for Army, my God!
They came up big in the 4th and OT so there's a ray of sunshine. Offense is way explosive and needs to learn to put together those long drives. We should have muscled army with punishing ground game and we didn't. Riley needs to work on that if we want to win the cfp.
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Oklahoma is in the Plains States or Central region, which extends from North Central Texas to South Dakota. OU's Owen Field is also known as Palace on the Prairie. Elites from the West and East coasts call this part of the country the Flyover States. Others call this the Heartland. This region is a transition from the Greenbelt Eastern half of the U.S. to the Arid Mountain/High Desert Western States. It is NOT the Midwest nor is it the West.
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