The Jerry Sloan Thread

I couldn't go a whole year without posting something in this thread. 364 days is fine.

"In my prime I could have handled Michael Jordan. Of course, he would be only twelve years old." -Jerry Sloan

MHSL82 said:

I couldn't go a whole year without posting something in this thread. 364 days is fine.

"In my prime I could have handled Michael Jordan. Of course, he would be only twelve years old." -Jerry Sloan

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Good post. Don't know if I've seen that one before, or if so, it's so seldom referenced that it's good to bring it up again.

MHSL82 said:

I couldn't go a whole year without posting something in this thread. 364 days is fine.

"In my prime I could have handled Michael Jordan. Of course, he would be only twelve years old." -Jerry Sloan

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nuraman00 said:

Good post. Don't know if I've seen that one before, or if so, it's so seldom referenced that it's good to bring it up again.

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I'm just glad no one interrupted him after he said the first part. That would frustrate me if I were Sloan. That's happened to me when I tell a joke a few times - I'll PM you with one.

Michael Jordan would be 12 on Feb. 17, 1975.

Jerry Sloan would be 32.

That's an older prime for Sloan than what is considered prime for most NBA players.

Then again, Sam Cassell made his first All-Star team at 34. Not to say that just because he made the ASG that he wasn't in his prime before. But it's one indicator. His actual problem of not making the ASG in years prior was that when he was in the East, Vince Carter, Allen Iverson, Ray Allen, and Reggie Miller were going to be a tough group to beat out.

Oh, Reggie Miller's last All-Star game was in 2000. And he only made 5 total teams. So I guess Cassell had slightly better chance some years.

Hall of Fame coach Sloan battling Parkinson's

He has had it for a while but didn't want people to feel bad for him or wonder if they saw and noticed.

MHSL82 said:

Hall of Fame coach Sloan battling Parkinson's

He has had it for a while but didn't want people to feel bad for him or wonder if they saw and noticed.

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Wow, thanks.

This is sad, John Henry versus the steam drill. Sloan is a tall tale. He joins Chuck Norris is bad ass contemporary lore.

A Good Tribute: Rutter: Jerry Sloan only wanted to say a last goodbye

I like that people are able to give these while he is still alive.

Good article: Williams, Sloan put the past where it belongs | Utah Jazz

MHSL82 said:

Good article: Williams, Sloan put the past where it belongs | Utah Jazz

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It's biased. There's missing information.

It's good because it's more than we knew a few days ago.

But it still leave me wanting to know the missing information.

nuraman00 said:

It's biased. There's missing information.

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nuraman00 said:

It's good because it's more than we knew a few days ago.

But it still leave me wanting to know the missing information.

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I don't think Sloan would have answered the questions if he were interviewed. It seems a bit awkward to be asking him. It would be like singing happy birthday to somebody by yourself when you are alone with them. I actually had my brother's friend's mom do this to me. She picked me up from school and played the song "Birthday" by the Beatles. Which is fine, but she stared at me the whole time.

Would you have been satisfied if they had added a line that Sloan declined comment?

And I know that it is coming from the other people, but we sort of hear what he did in their accounts. Unless they are lying, I don't think they are. Of course, it cannot be complete because that would've taken a long time.

But I think apologizing to somebody and then saying, "now, that I apologized, how do you feel?" sounds insincere.

"Was it good for you?"

(Yes, I am aware that it will be someone else asking, not Williams.)

MHSL82 said:

I don't think Sloan would have answered the questions if he were interviewed. It seems a bit awkward to be asking him. It would be like singing happy birthday to somebody by yourself when you are alone with them. I actually had my brother's friend's mom do this to me. She picked me up from school and played the song "Birthday" by the Beatles. Which is fine, but she stared at me the whole time.

Would you have been satisfied if they had added a line that Sloan declined comment?

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If it's someone I cared about enough, I'd sing happy birthday to them, if I was alone with them.

Now that you mention it, I think my friend's mom was at school for some reason, and found me and sang happy birthday to me. I guess that's what friend's parents do. I wonder if this is a partially made up memory because I read your post.

I would have been more satisfied if Sloan said he declined comment, because I would have a better understanding of what he thought about the event. No comment means something. Not even asking him means it's a mystery.

MHSL82 said:

And I know that it is coming from the other people, but we sort of hear what he did in their accounts. Unless they are lying, I don't think they are. Of course, it cannot be complete because that would've taken a long time.

But I think apologizing to somebody and then saying, "now, that I apologized, how do you feel?" sounds insincere.

"Was it good for you?"

(Yes, I am aware that it will be someone else asking, not Williams.)

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Maybe someone would ask how they felt about the apology, because the person they apologized to isn't showing whether they accepted it, or whether there's still hard feelings.

The person is asking so he knows whether they can move past it, or if it is still an open issue.

Yes, we hear what Sloan did, by others' accounts. But different people can view the same situation differently.

One person can see Person A something and say Person A is lying. Another person can see Person A and say that he's telling the truth.

Then we need to hear from Person A about if he's lying, telling the truth, or something else.

Three people hear the following phrase:

"The people are revolting".

Person A spreads the news that the people are displaying poor behavior. Maybe they're burning cars and doing other disgusting things.

Person B spreads the news that the people look physically disgusting. Maybe they have lice and acne.

Person C spreads the news that the people are trying to overthrow the government.

That's three interpretations. To find out which one is more accurate, we need more sources. Maybe some sources from the authority figures, so they can help clarify which interpretation is closer to being accurate.

I have no argument that it would be better to hear from Sloan an honest assessment of how he feels, I'm just saying that they're not going to get that.

There's no way that Sloan opens up in that manner. He barely said anything at his retirement press conference. I don't think he said much in his Hall of Fame induction. Or any other interview. He doesn't open up, especially about something like this.

From all I know about Sloan, what they said he said sounds like an accurate assessment of his personality. You're not going to get a "we are good" from him. I think sometimes you get more from Stockton than you would expect, but Sloan is tightlipped.

So, yes, we could feel incomplete from the information, but I don't think the information is inaccurate. And while I know that no one likes defeatism, I think it is an accurate assessment that this will always be incomplete. So therefore, I am happy with what I got, knowing that I'm not going to get anymore. I'm not going to fixate on his part of the story when I don't think it's going to be much different.

Again, I can't say that what I think he'd say is true, but that's how I feel. Think any of the details that we would like to hear would be basically declined by saying it is personal. I think he would have a lot of fluff and I would complement Williams (in what people could see as being either lip service, forced, or awkward; I don't think it would be backhanded) but I see him as not saying much substantive. He is not a touchy-feely person even though he has emotions that flair.

Maybe we can see if Williams and Sloan sit next to each other at a Jazz game, sometime.

I think if that article had said "when asked how the meeting meant, Sloan declined to share details", that would have been more satisfying. Because at least I would think, "that's Sloan".

And I would know the journalists made an attempt.

I was fine with Stockton and Sloan's hall of fame speeches.