2018 NBA offseason

WiggyRuss said:

what are you saying you dont think its true?

Baker is what? 23? LeBron will be 34 in December?

easy choice.

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Mecca said:

1 game.

That's all he's played.

I honestly don't think this will happen.

But, It wouldn't be considered crazy talk if someone predicted the Browns to go 2 and 14 for the Season.

34 year old LeBron is still better than 100% of the other players in the NBA.

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CitySushi said:

It's so shocking to me to see you continually talk shit about the only guy to ever bring you a championship in Cleveland. I mean shit he even CAME BACK to a fan base that burned his jerseys and hated the owner of the team. That's how much he wanted to get it done for you guys and you just continue to shit on him.

You guys don't deserve any championships and definitely didn't deserve having a player of Lebron's caliber playing for you guys. I thought you were a homer, which there's nothing wrong with, but I never figured you for being a weak fan as well.

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WiggyRuss said:

you take the good with LeBron but there are some dark corners too

he "sonned" Kyrie out of town.....forced the team in to making moves....was sulky and complained all the time....the first time around he refused to recruit anyone.

dont get me wrong- i will always revere and respect lebron for his talent, his ability to help the community and bringing the city's first championship- but there are things about LeBron that were not always conducive to winning as much as possible

you cant plan as a team and do things like the Warriors did and attract players if LeBron is going year to year.

literally- the Cavs could have had George, Kyrie and LeBron last year and won a title- all that stood in the way was guarateeing first round picks to the Pacers that were unprotected---- but LeBron wouldnt commit, and everything falls apart and befor you know it- instead of having LeBron as the highest player in the league with Kyrie and George- you have only Kevin Love. Thats no ones fault but LeBrons.

Right now LeBron could be in Cleveland making the most money in the NBA with Kyrie and George but his ego towards Kyrie, Dan G. got in the way of it. Thats a tough pill to swallow.

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WiggyRuss said:

Baker The Real Deal Mayfield

heard it here first.

He is legitimately amazing. dont even try and tell me otherwise.

I am telling you--- i have NEVER said this about a Browns QB from Quinn to Johhny to Holcomb to DA to Kizer to whoever.....

the guy is the real fucking deal.

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bksballer89 said:

I wonder why Lebron would have an ego towards Dan G lmao.

You fuckers are lucky he even came back

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WiggyRuss said:

you take the good with LeBron but there are some dark corners too

he "sonned" Kyrie out of town.....forced the team in to making moves....was sulky and complained all the time....the first time around he refused to recruit anyone.

dont get me wrong- i will always revere and respect lebron for his talent, his ability to help the community and bringing the city's first championship- but there are things about LeBron that were not always conducive to winning as much as possible

you cant plan as a team and do things like the Warriors did and attract players if LeBron is going year to year.

literally- the Cavs could have had George, Kyrie and LeBron last year and won a title- all that stood in the way was guarateeing first round picks to the Pacers that were unprotected---- but LeBron wouldnt commit, and everything falls apart and befor you know it- instead of having LeBron as the highest player in the league with Kyrie and George- you have only Kevin Love. Thats no ones fault but LeBrons.

Right now LeBron could be in Cleveland making the most money in the NBA with Kyrie and George but his ego towards Kyrie, Dan G. got in the way of it. Thats a tough pill to swallow.

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CitySushi said:

Jordan and Kobe were the same way. They were incredibly difficult personalities that often lead to conflicts with teammates and the front office. These guys that are that great are a different breed of people. And right or wrong, you absolutely have to take the good with the bad.

Lebron was absolutely correct in not signing long term because his loyalty was to the city, NOT to the organization. He came back for you guys... the fans, not Dan Gilbert. He outright hated Dan Gilbert and still put that aside. It wasn't a secret, everyone knew he hated Gilbert even on the day he first re-signed.

It's not Lebron's job to make sure the Cavs Organization is in a good standing going forward when he faced all that animosity the first time around. He wanted to bring the City of Cleveland a championship, not the Cavaliers. And personally, I don't think that's what you're quite getting.

This time around Lebron dictated the terms, because in all honestly he's earned the right to do so. And who could really blame him after what he endured when he left.

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Bolts said:

Bogdan needs a minor procedure done on his knee, damn it.

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tlance said:

I hope you are joking, because those other guys are all horrendous.

Mayfield might be good. But if you want to see a future superstar QB, go look in KC. Because Mahomes is the real thing. And I have been saying that since he got drafted.

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bksballer89 said:

How long is he out?

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Mecca said:

He's the Lion King and the kiddie corps are the Thunder Cats....lol

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Mecca said:

1 game.

That's all he's played.

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WiggyRuss said:

what are you saying you dont think its true?

Baker is what? 23? LeBron will be 34 in December?

easy choice.

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trojanfan12 said:

Exactly. Look at Sam Darnold. After the first game, he was gonna be Joe Namath.

2 games later. He looks like a rookie. Granted, he looks like a rookie who will be very good one day, but he still is looking like a rookie.

Lots of rookie qb's look good in their first game...then the opponents get video of them and they come back down to earth.

I think Mayfield and Darnold are both going to be very good. But it's going to look ugly at times while they're getting there.

Can't get too high about the good performances and can't get too low about the bad ones.

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CitySushi said:

Jordan and Kobe were the same way. They were incredibly difficult personalities that often lead to conflicts with teammates and the front office. These guys that are that great are a different breed of people. And right or wrong, you absolutely have to take the good with the bad.

Lebron was absolutely correct in not signing long term because his loyalty was to the city, NOT to the organization. He came back for you guys... the fans, not Dan Gilbert. He outright hated Dan Gilbert and still put that aside. It wasn't a secret, everyone knew he hated Gilbert even on the day he first re-signed.

It's not Lebron's job to make sure the Cavs Organization is in a good standing going forward when he faced all that animosity the first time around. He wanted to bring the City of Cleveland a championship, not the Cavaliers. And personally, I don't think that's what you're quite getting.

This time around Lebron dictated the terms, because in all honestly he's earned the right to do so. And who could really blame him after what he endured when he left.

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WiggyRuss said:

Right now LeBron could be in Cleveland making the most money in the NBA with Kyrie and George but his ego towards Kyrie, Dan G. got in the way of it. Thats a tough pill to swallow.

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