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This kid may well be the best QB in the PAC 12

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:lol: @ USC fans who act like they know football but then blame their QB/Coach for the reason they lost, when it was clear both your lines were getting their shit pushed in and it wouldn't have made a bit of difference who the QB or HC for USC was.
 

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:lol: @ USC fans who act like they know football but then blame their QB/Coach for the reason they lost, when it was clear both your lines were getting their shit pushed in and it wouldn't have made a bit of difference who the QB or HC for USC was.

How fuckin lonely are you.lol . Stop we aren't coming out to play. Go wake up your wife or something. Go walk outside it's probably cooled off now. Jeeze dude. lol
 

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How fuckin lonely are you.lol . Stop we aren't coming out to play. Go wake up your wife or something. Go walk outside it's probably cooled off now. Jeeze dude. lol

Yes, so extremely lonely, and all the other things you need to tell yourself....other guy posting on the internet at the exact same time...
 

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Helton started Max Browne because Browne had been loyal, waiting his turn at USC. Browne couldn't beat out Cody Kessler or Max Wittek. He didn't even beat out Darnold, Helton went with Browne because he had been there waiting, not because he earned the starting job.

Actually, that's incorrect. He started Browne because he was the only QB he had with any kind of experience. Had he not started him, Browne would have transferred. Helton didn't want to lose his only QB with any experience. Plus, Darnold had never even taken a snap in a college game and Helton didn't want to throw him to the wolves (Bama's defense).

Not saying it was necessarily the right choice, especially given how Browne (and the team played) but I understand and agree with the logic behind it.
 

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Well at least you're thinking positive. lol
Look I like Helton. He's the first grown up (TF12s words) we've had running the show since Pete left. That was his first game as the head coach. I know he stunk it up. I was there. I spent time and money to go watch that. I paid for tickets twice because my buddy (whos not in charge of the tickets for the Texas game) left the first pair in his hotel room in Dallas when we went to Arlington . Yes, Darnold should have been starting from day one. he fucked up. The play calling needs to improve I agree. I hope Tee Martin studied and talked to offensive minds all off season because this is it for him. He gets no more passes. Anyway. I'm tryng to give him at least until after this year to see where he's at. You do know he's won more every season than what's projected and he's the first coach at USC to win 10 or more in his first two seasons. That's gotta buy him a little time.

Yep, at the very least, Helton has stabilized the program. Is he the answer? I don't know. Jury is still out on that.

But at least we don't have to worry about turning on ESPN and seeing that our head coach was seen acting like a petulant child or a drunk frat boy.
 

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:lol: @ USC fans who act like they know football but then blame their QB/Coach for the reason they lost, when it was clear both your lines were getting their shit pushed in and it wouldn't have made a bit of difference who the QB or HC for USC was.

Not this one. I have been complaining about the o-line and to an extent, the d-line, for about the last 5 or so years. That was literally the last (and hopefully past us now) effect of the sanctions. Most of the limited scholarships under Kiffin and Sark were used for "skill position" guys rather than the o and d lines.

Having 4* and 5* talent at QB, RB, WR, LB and DB is great and all. But at some point you have to be able to block somebody and pressure the QB once in awhile.
 

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Not this one. I have been complaining about the o-line and to an extent, the d-line, for about the last 5 or so years. That was literally the last (and hopefully past us now) effect of the sanctions. Most of the limited scholarships under Kiffin and Sark were used for "skill position" guys rather than the o and d lines.

Having 4* and 5* talent at QB, RB, WR, LB and DB is great and all. But at some point you have to be able to block somebody and pressure the QB once in awhile.

Like its wrong to blame the coach when the team looks unprepared. lol
 

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Epic bump is epic
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Can someone link this thread in tonight's gameday thread?
 

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Its got a nice leave Helton on the tarmac feel to it :whistle:
We need a real game thread for tonight's game. Oklahoma cheaped out last week and bumped a two year old OU vs ISU game thread for last week's game and that was about as cheap & tacky as it gets.
 
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