Current HOF inductees will not show for future inductions if their "salary"demands aren't met

Battlelyon · Sep 19, 2018

They do know the Hall of Fame is independent of the NFL, right?

Manster7588 · Sep 19, 2018

CaptainStubing said:
Haha ... so only the Hall of Fame players get insurance in their minds? So the average players can just fuck off and die?

I swear, sometimes people piss me off

That's what I caught too. Looking at the list who 'Signed" I believe all have other revenues for $$$, I dont think they're hurting for insurance.

Battlelyon · Sep 19, 2018

Manster7588 said:
That's what I caught too. Looking at the list who 'Signed" I believe all have other revenues for $$$, I dont think they're hurting for insurance.

Though

Jerry Rice, Kurt Warner distance themselves from Hall of Fame group threatening boycott

Myles · Sep 19, 2018

The HOF is FOR the players. The NFL should just say fuck it and wash their hands of it.

Myles · Sep 19, 2018

I worked for Pizza Hut for a few years when I was young. I would now like a slice of their pie.

Used 2 B Hu · Sep 19, 2018

PEOPLESCHICKEN said:
Wanna do something about it? I know a fella who "makes things go away"

Nah nah nahhhh, it's cool...it's getting me the respect of Peter

Manster7588 · Sep 19, 2018

Battlelyon said:
Though

Jerry Rice, Kurt Warner distance themselves from Hall of Fame group threatening boycott

That's why I put Signed in quotes.

PEOPLESCHICKEN · Sep 19, 2018

Used 2 B Hu said:
Nah nah nahhhh, it's cool...it's getting me the respect of Peter

I am very sorry

PEOPLESCHICKEN · Sep 19, 2018

broncosmitty said:
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thats some black and white wood there

SoCalWizFan · Sep 19, 2018

Rockinkuwait said:
The thing is the NFL has a great retirement program. I've got a buddy who played in the NFL, but after a couple seasons left for a bigger contract in the USFL. Ended his career there and is PISSED he didn't stick in the NFL two more years for the benefits.

For example OJ simpson depending if he pulled out at 55 or 65 would be getting $50,000 or about $105,000 a year in his NFL pension.

And that's something the players union and league collectively bargain. Most years the players union pushes for more percentage in their pockets in salary than future retirement benefits. NFL even has offered deals where they pay out the majority of those benefits but union has to give up a little and they've been voted down by the players until lately. Current plan is a big pension, a 2:1 401k match (NFL matches TWICE what player puts in) and for players with 4 seasons $95k a season into another retirement fund.

Former players also can get a Joint Replacement Program provides assistance to former players who require medically necessary joint replacement. A Medicare supplement program helps to pay for Medicare supplement insurance for those 65 or older and covered by Medicare. Life insurance. A neurological care program with no out-of-pocket expense to retired players. A spine treatment program with no out-of-pocket expense to retired players. A discount prescription drug card. Priority access to assisted living facilities.

The AVERAGE pension in 2014 was $43,000 a year. This is a yearly calculation based on years played which means average NFL career length (4 years). Guess which end of the spectrum NFL HOFers end up on for career lengths. Remember that's not recent guys, the youngest someone who started in the mid-80's. Deion Sanders should be eligible in another 4 years for the early pension.

Now that is in a large part so high because 7 years ago the league agreed to a "legacy retirement" to spend over 620 million for about 1700 eligible players/families (about $365k per player in additional retirement benefits they had never signed up for or bargained for).

Good clarification. I certainly feel bad about long term issues for some players & also feel that they should get what is due for them. However I think it is important to note that the pension situation is not the same as for most of us. This will not be the last pension or source of income for most of these guys. They still have most of their working life ahead of them (unless they incur some type of devastating injury).

The players who only play for a handful of years in particular should be pursuing another career to account for the majority of their income. This is another reason why players need to take advantage of any free education that will serve them well throughout their life. Also - hopefully recent rule changes eventually result in less long term injuries that should help quite a bit with the long term health & money issues for some of these guys.

Battlelyon · Sep 21, 2018

Battlelyon · Sep 21, 2018

Schmoopy1000 · Sep 21, 2018

Battlelyon said:
I too want a pension and health care for life for doing a job I love for a decade, they must think they are government employees

Nah! they would never except that little LOL

Schmoopy1000 · Sep 21, 2018

Manster7588 said:
Not reading the full thread, but I could see lifetime health insurance for all players with at least 4 seasons of play plus for those who never made it due to career ending injury.

As for pay, give all players equally a certain amount of money for each year they played. With a 10 year cap.
Example 5,000 for each year. Player plays 3 years he gets 15,000. 8 years = 40,000. 10 or more years 50,000.

The yearly amount can be argued and I nearly said 10,000 per year played capped at 100,000.

I understand a 10 year vet is currently making more than 100,000. but if he cant survive on 100,000 sitting on his ass FUCK HIM.

Also this retirement fund should come equally from three sources. The NFL, the Teams and current players.

Hell I pay into my retirement they can too.

I want to say the NFL already has a pension plan.

I seem to remember (getting older so might not remember exactly) that when OJ got sued for killing people, they could bankrupt him but they couldnt touch his pension. & he was getting like 200k or something crazy every year in his pension.

YankeeRebel · Sep 21, 2018

I know it's been said, but honestly who gives two shits if they don't show up? Not I!

Manster7588 · Sep 21, 2018

Schmoopy1000 said:
I want to say the NFL already has a pension plan.

I seem to remember (getting older so might not remember exactly) that when OJ got sued for killing people, they could bankrupt him but they couldnt touch his pension. & he was getting like 200k or something crazy every year in his pension.

So yes they do.

NFL
The NFL could stand for "Not For Long," with the average career lasting only three years - just enough to qualify for the league's pension plan. The league's plan is based on years of service in the league. Players who retired in the '80s and '90s receive anywhere from $3,000-5,640 per month for every season played in the NFL. Newly retired players receive $5,640 dollars monthlyfor every year of service. Players with 10 years of service receive an additional retirement bonus in the form of an annuity.

Players are eligible to receive their full benefits at the age of 55. While the pension plan is much worse than other sports, the NFL does offer a generous 401(k) plan. The league matches every player's contribution up to 200%. (Housing your retirement plan inside a variable annuity contract offers some big advantages, but only if you are close to retirement. Find out more, in Should Your 401(k) Be In An Annuity

Manster7588 · Sep 23, 2018

Fuck Dickerson and any other WHINEY HOF'er

Current and former NFL players have addressed these questions in the aftermath of a group of Hall of Fame players’ recent demands for increased pensions and improved health care. Former running back Eric Dickerson, who has become a spokesman for this fledgling movement, says he wants every Hall of Famer to get $300,000 a year along with comprehensive health care coverage.

Wazmankg · Sep 23, 2018

I think that the NFL should provide them with lifetime health coverage, providing they're vested which I think happens after 3 or 4 seasons. But as far as a salary, they already receive pensions and playing a few seasons shouldn't obligate the NFL to provide them with a lifetime income.

Schmoopy1000 · Sep 23, 2018

Shouldnt they fight for all NFL players to get insurance not just HOFers?
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