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Why are the Aggies ranked?

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If ULM is a really bad FBS team, so is BYU. They both were 4 win teams last year, they're both 2-1 and they've both already beaten teams that beat them last year. But Wisconsin should stay ranked for losing and A&M shouldn't move up for winning...gotcha. If we were evaluating teams based on what they have actually done this year, A&M should be ahead of Wisconsin.

We lost to Auburn last year, I think we would rock Wisconsin this year or last year. Hell, I think we are better than any B1G team this year or last, you are all a far cry from 2014. Hell, LSU beat Auburn last year handily, but I don't recall them losing to anyone not in the SEC. Michigan being just outside the CFP in 2016 is a joke, they beat one team with a pulse all year and got rocked in their bowl game by an FSU team that lost to Louisville by 43.

Wisconsin barely beat a Miami team that got rocked by Clemson and frankly wasn't that good. 38-0 and 31-0 speaks volumes for the state of B1G football, but y'all can keep pretending. The B1G west is the weakest division in football, Wisconsin is just the tallest midget. I also don't recall beating LSU or Auburn 38-0 in 2015, but keep on telling yourself Michigan was better.

Last week was just a harbinger of things to come for the B1G. Whose gonna get shutout in the playoff this year, probably no one, Notre Dame will probably fill your sacrificial lamb spot.


SEC East just said "Hold my beer"......
 

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Sitting around thinking about me, and I'm the one with hurt feelings?

Sorry that you made a shitty thread because you are obsessed with all things A&M and I called you out for it. Maybe be a better poster and I won't need to resort to doing so.

Shitty thread? We're on 13 pages now. I'm not the only one who wants to know why the Aggies are ranked for beating nobody........
 

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And just so you know, just like the stats I showed that illustrate how much more overrated VT has been than Iowa, these show that you are wrong.

The thing about stats is just because you quote them it doesn't actually mean you understand them or what they are relevant to.

Such stats are nifty for trivia and that's about it. They say nothing about the quality of the bowls, the quality of the opponents, how well they actually did in the games themselves relative to opponent strength or anything else real. Nevermind you just make up and cherry pick the timelines and such that fit your narrative.

And that in a nutshell is why I think you are a dumbass.
 

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The thing about stats is just because you quote them it doesn't actually mean you understand them or what they are relevant to.

Such stats are nifty for trivia and that's about it. They say nothing about the quality of the bowls, the quality of the opponents, how well they actually did in the games themselves relative to opponent strength or anything else real. Nevermind you just make up and cherry pick the timelines and such that fit your narrative.

And that in a nutshell is why I think you are a dumbass.
Well the West is 5-1 vs the Coastal in bowls the last 10 years including 2-0 vs Coastal champs. Not sure if that's relevant or not but it's fun
 

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The thing about stats is just because you quote them it doesn't actually mean you understand them or what they are relevant to.

Such stats are nifty for trivia and that's about it. They say nothing about the quality of the bowls, the quality of the opponents, how well they actually did in the games themselves relative to opponent strength or anything else real. Nevermind you just make up and cherry pick the timelines and such that fit your narrative.

And that in a nutshell is why I think you are a dumbass.
Ok dumbass, here's some more trivia for you. The B1G has played a significantly lower number of their bowls in the last decade against G5 schools than the ACC. Are you able to understand that? Or are you going to keep shrugging off these facts because they don't fit your ignorant, dumbass narrative?
 

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Well the West is 5-1 vs the Coastal in bowls the last 10 years including 2-0 vs Coastal champs. Not sure if that's relevant or not but it's fun
He's reeling. He has nowhere to go at this point but to admit defeat.
 

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Ok dumbass, here's some more trivia for you. The B1G has played a significantly lower number of their bowls in the last decade against G5 schools than the ACC. Are you able to understand that? Or are you going to keep shrugging off these facts because they don't fit your ignorant, dumbass narrative?

This statement makes my brain hurt. Fewer bowl games against G5 schools.
 

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He's reeling. He has nowhere to go at this point but to admit defeat.
Listen the West isn't great but Iowa bas more top 10s over the last decade than the entire Coastal combined . We will see what happens this year but people are overreacting to one bad loss by Wisky. No one in their right mind thought the bottin of the West was going to be good
 

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I'm sorry man, it's early and I was up celebrating last night. Browns fan.

I read that statement and then read it again and the sad part is that with so many freaking spare.com type bowls I thought I might have missed some rule change that does allow some G5 schools to participate in some of the bowls.

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Listen the West isn't great but Iowa bas more top 10s over the last decade than the entire Coastal combined . We will see what happens this year but people are overreacting to one bad loss by Wisky. No one in their right mind thought the bottin of the West was going to be good
That's normally the case, and nobody is trying to say the B1G West is some gauntlet. However, for as mediocre/bad as it's been, it's been nowhere near as bad as the ACC Coastal, or honestly before last year, the SEC East.
 

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I read that statement and then read it again and the sad part is that with so many freaking spare.com type bowls I thought I might have missed some rule change that does allow some G5 schools to participate in some of the bowls.

:pound:
Oh that's the thing. The ACC has faced something like 4x as many G5 schools because they play in those buttwartcream.com bowls against teams like Southern Miss. The B1G rarely faces a G5 team in bowl season because of their tie-ins.
 

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I'm not the only one who wants to know why the Aggies are ranked for beating nobody........
They went from unranked to unranked after barely losing to Clemson. It wasn’t until the next week that they achieved top 25 status.

Do you think they could beat Maryland?
 

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They went from unranked to unranked after barely losing to Clemson. It wasn’t until the next week that they achieved top 25 status.

Do you think they could beat Maryland?

Absolutely they could beat MD. 95% of D1 programs could beat MD.
 

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Absolutely they could beat MD. 95% of D1 programs could beat MD.
So you think they are better than Maryland, who beat the #21 ranked team. Perhaps A&M deserves a ranking?
 

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Ok dumbass, here's some more trivia for you. The B1G has played a significantly lower number of their bowls in the last decade against G5 schools than the ACC. Are you able to understand that? Or are you going to keep shrugging off these facts because they don't fit your ignorant, dumbass narrative?

"G5" and "P5" are nothing more than stupid labels that say nothing about the actual strength of the teams. I use to think win% was about the worst measure of team strength you could ever come up with, and then all of a sudden you stupid fucks started using "G5" and "P5" as if it really said something about team strength.

Because you gotta be an absolutely fucking moron to think those labels mean shit. As if playing Ohio St and Oregon St are equal. Oh they are a big bad "P5" team, and yet Auburn played "G5" UCF in a bowl game last year, which according to the logic here is somehow an easier and less opponent than Oregon St would be.

It's one thing to use them as a generalization, but when you actually think they have meaning, then you are a dumbass. Yeah, we want more teams to play "P5" games, because it's a generalization to say "we'd like to see better teams playing better teams". But then to turn around and actually think that holds water to use as a stat to suggest 1 is better than another - you're a fucking idiot and that's all there is to it.

The only dumbass narrative being talked about here is you. All I said was something that is common knowledge, the Big10 West is a very weak division. You are the one who keeps cherry picking stupid shit like it means something because you want a narrative otherwise.
 

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"G5" and "P5" are nothing more than stupid labels that say nothing about the actual strength of the teams. I use to think win% was about the worst measure of team strength you could ever come up with, and then all of a sudden you stupid fucks started using "G5" and "P5" as if it really said something about team strength.

Because you gotta be an absolutely fucking moron to think those labels mean shit. As if playing Ohio St and Oregon St are equal. Oh they are a big bad "P5" team, and yet Auburn played "G5" UCF in a bowl game last year, which according to the logic here is somehow an easier and less opponent than Oregon St would be.

It's one thing to use them as a generalization, but when you actually think they have meaning, then you are a dumbass. Yeah, we want more teams to play "P5" games, because it's a generalization to say "we'd like to see better teams playing better teams". But then to turn around and actually think that holds water to use as a stat to suggest 1 is better than another - you're a fucking idiot and that's all there is to it.

The only dumbass narrative being talked about here is you. All I said was something that is common knowledge, the Big10 West is a very weak division. You are the one who keeps cherry picking stupid shit like it means something because you want a narrative otherwise.
So what you're saying is you have no possible way of proving your enormously idiotic narrative about the ACC Coastal being better than the B1G West. Yes, I know. You're completely outmatched in this discussion.
 

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So what you're saying is you have no possible way of proving your enormously idiotic narrative about the ACC Coastal being better than the B1G West. Yes, I know. You're completely outmatched in this discussion.

Or you could use stats that actually say something.

BCF Toys - 2017 FEI Ratings

Here's last years FEI. I have no idea what the outcome will be, but feel free to do the math with this if you want to make a point. Iowa and Wisconsin were decent last year, so you got a pretty good chance.

The other years are there too.

Here, I'll even do 2017 for you.

8 Wisconsin
14 Iowa
26 Purdue
43 Northwestern
82 Minnesota
99 Nebraska
119 Illinois

391 / 7 = Average rank of 55.

vs

17 Miami
31 Virginia Tech
41 Duke
60 Georgia Tech
71 Pittsburgh
78 Virginia
97 North Carolina

395 / 7 = Average rank of 56.


Well what do you know, it's pretty close but I think the Big10 West would have a small advantage last year over the ACC Coastal. Mostly because of...Purdue!! Didn't see that one coming. Wisconsin and Iowa also make the Big10 West a little better at the top last year, no surprise there. Beyond that, the ACC has an advantage and the bottom teams aren't as bad as the Big10 West's teams.

And that is how you make an actual argument that isn't based on bullshit and narratives. Of course, you don't make your opinions based on shit like this, you're just a ignorant Big10 homer looking for any stupid shit thing you can throw out there, so you give me "P5" and "G5" in bowl games over your cherry picked amount of time.
 

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Man fuck this thread, I was hoping for a good old fashioned Texas or A&M bashing thread and our self absorbed B1G posters took this shit over too. Fuck you guys.
 
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