politics thread

Stymietee said:

He also wanted the death penalty for five young men who were exonerated by DNA. NOT once since did he apologize or attempt to make amends for this racist stance.

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So you are suggesting that because 5 people were unanimously convicted by a jury of 12peers for a crime that warrants the death penalty and a person with only the conviction wanted them executed, it is racist? What if the five people were white and he still wanted the death penalty, is he still racist?

Why would he apologize for something he had nothing to do with?

Sharkinva said:

People dont change who they are, they just get better at hiding or not getting caught at the shit that got them into trouble. Trump is going to do or say what plays best for him, always has always will. Six months ago Micheal Cohen was a fine upstanding person. Now apparently he is a Rat. A month ago Manafort was a loyal American, by the end of the year.. I bet he will be a Rat as well.

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michael cohen always had a rep that was questionable

skinsdad62 said:

michael cohen always had a rep that was questionable

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So has Donald Trump

Sharkinva said:

So has Donald Trump

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not anywhere near HRC

skinsdad62 said:

not anywhere near HRC

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Always whatabout Hillary/Obama.

So here is a serious question, Would you trust Donald J Trump with

1. Your money to invest
2. Your Daughter
3. The life of your son or daughter??

If you can answer yes to all three honestly then roll with it. If you come back with some sort of dodge, but still trust him with the country... what does that say?

Sharkinva said:

Always whatabout Hillary/Obama.

So here is a serious question, Would you trust Donald J Trump with

1. Your money to invest
2. Your Daughter
3. The life of your son or daughter??

If you can answer yes to all three honestly then roll with it. If you come back with some sort of dodge, but still trust him with the country... what does that say?

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1) yes

2) no

3) yes

now lest flip it would you with HRC ?

Sharkinva said:

Always whatabout Hillary/Obama.

So here is a serious question, Would you trust Donald J Trump with

1. Your money to invest
2. Your Daughter
3. The life of your son or daughter??

If you can answer yes to all three honestly then roll with it. If you come back with some sort of dodge, but still trust him with the country... what does that say?

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1- Yes...if he is investing his money also.
2- Hell no. He is a male whore and an asshole...as I have stated frequently.
3- It depends on what you mean. As Commander in Chief, absolutely. Far more than Obama, Bushes, or Clintons.


I trust him with the country because he is one man and has done nothing wrong. He may have done things we disagree with, but he has done nothing wrong. Trump is enforcing the law which is his job. Economically, while I may disagree with certain approaches, time will tell if it is a mistake and there are definitely some positives.

skinsdad62 said:

1) yes

2) no

3) yes

now lest flip it would you with HRC ?

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I didnt vote for HIllary, HIllary isnt the President. And even if she were the President, she would not have my undying loyalty if she made some of the same moves Trump has made.

As for my answers though..

I wouldnt trust either of them with my money.

I would have no worries with my daughter around HIllary.

And I would have no fears that Hillary would wake up one morning and tweet out an attack on another country because she felt slighted.

Sharkinva said:

I didnt vote for HIllary, HIllary isnt the President. And even if she were the President, she would not have my undying loyalty if she made some of the same moves Trump has made.

As for my answers though..

I wouldnt trust either of them with my money.

I would have no worries with my daughter around HIllary.

And I would have no fears that Hillary would wake up one morning and tweet out an attack on another country because she felt slighted.

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Well, I would fear Hillary not giving the appropriate security when requested by our diplomats. I would fear she would not send help, even when it is available. I have every reason to have these fears because they have happened. I would then fear she would attempt to cover it up and blame a cheap and crappy video, after messaging her daughter that it was terrorism, and then sticking to the video lie to the face of the public.

gkekoa said:

Well, I would fear Hillary not giving the appropriate security when requested by our diplomats. I would fear she would not send help, even when it is available. I have every reason to have these fears because they have happened. I would then fear she would attempt to cover it up and blame a cheap and crappy video, after messaging her daughter that it was terrorism, and then sticking to the video lie to the face of the public.

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i would also fear she would try to rig an election using the FBI , CIA and DOJ . i fear she would weaponize depts of govt to quash her opponents

i also fear she wouldnt keep our secrets safe and the enemy would take huge advantage of this because she values "convenience " over security

also fear she would enrich herself and her husband and be beholden to foriegn powers in exchange for "contributions "

in a few days more texts will come out and the total fisa warrant will come out and we will see just how corrupt obamas DOJ and FBI reallly were at the top and ebb will somehow not get the message that they did shady stuff

skinsdad62 said:

i would also fear she would try to rig an election using the FBI , CIA and DOJ . i fear she would weaponize depts of govt to quash her opponents

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1. UNtil captain scam became President, rarely if ever did people and ESPECIALLY Republicans, question the DOJ. In fact most scream about how we are a nation of LAWS and that our DOJ keeps those laws enforced. Now all of a sudden they are going to be weaponized??

2. Trump has called for just that from the moment he announced he would run. Im sure you guys were digging the hell out of the lock her up chants. But you worry that Clinton would have weaponized the DOJ to go after her enemies, when Trump has routinely called for the DOJ to go after his enemies AND protect him.

skinsdad62 said:

i also fear she wouldnt keep our secrets safe and the enemy would take huge advantage of this because she values "convenience " over security

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We have a president about to declassify documents, just to try and some how cover his ass and discredit the DOJ. But again, HIllary worries you more.

skinsdad62 said:

also fear she would enrich herself and her husband and be beholden to foriegn powers in exchange for "contributions "

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We have a man who is using federal funds to pay for his golf weekends at properties he owns. But yes Hillary would use the office to line her pockets.

skinsdad62 said:

in a few days more texts will come out and the total fisa warrant will come out and we will see just how corrupt obamas DOJ and FBI reallly were at the top and ebb will somehow not get the message that they did shady stuff

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IN a few days we will see cherry picked documents from the FISA warrant released to try and discredit the Mueller investigation. When is the last time a FISA warrant has been declassified?? Oh thats right, never. And if they couldnt cherry pick it they wouldnt declassify any of it. If Trump had any balls at all he would release the whole thing and testify under oath.

Oh wait, that would likely lead to impeachment and possibly worse.

Sharkinva said:

1. UNtil captain scam became President, rarely if ever did people and ESPECIALLY Republicans, question the DOJ. In fact most scream about how we are a nation of LAWS and that our DOJ keeps those laws enforced. Now all of a sudden they are going to be weaponized??

2. Trump has called for just that from the moment he announced he would run. Im sure you guys were digging the hell out of the lock her up chants. But you worry that Clinton would have weaponized the DOJ to go after her enemies, when Trump has routinely called for the DOJ to go after his enemies AND protect him.





We have a president about to declassify documents, just to try and some how cover his ass and discredit the DOJ. But again, HIllary worries you more.




We have a man who is using federal funds to pay for his golf weekends at properties he owns. But yes Hillary would use the office to line her pockets.




IN a few days we will see cherry picked documents from the FISA warrant released to try and discredit the Mueller investigation. When is the last time a FISA warrant has been declassified?? Oh thats right, never. And if they couldnt cherry pick it they wouldnt declassify any of it. If Trump had any balls at all he would release the whole thing and testify under oath.

Oh wait, that would likely lead to impeachment and possibly worse.

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shark lets take stock on what has happened here

lynch strzok page roesnstien mccabe muellar brennan comey and now weissman were involved in clearing HRC of mishandling classified information involving her illegal server .

now i dont know what you did in the marines but i have handled classified documents and have been trained in their use and care . most americans have not and what she did should have gotten her a jail sentence . now i can go conspiracy theory on you but i am not suffice it to say there are reason she had the server which i have stated in pages above and why she deleted 30 grand emails but that isnt what needs to be answered for here

what these guys did is used a phony dossier paid for by HRC , ( no the dossier wasnt in existence during the REP primary ) and( no poppadappolis wasnt enough ) to investigate something that ISNT a crime hence either as an straight up FBI investigation or a counterintelligence investigation , the FBI cant just open up an investigation to find a crime .

they mislead a fisa judge to obtain a warrant to spy on trump which they did with no evidence of a crime the spy i have named above which you nor ebb responded too

there isnt any cherry pick parts of the warrant shark because as you know some of this warrant has been released .already but that wasnt enough for some . now they whole thing unredacted is being released so the public can see it for themselves ( along with a butt ton of 302 's )

we now know that the FBI and the CIA have been leaking stuff to the press and then using the leaked information to help support fisa warrants in other cases by saying " see the press is reporting it " this has come out in the last few weeks and originated from eric holders time as AG

these text show the bias and show they intended to reverse the will of the people in a fair election based on our laws

if i am correct fisa courts havent been around before 911 ( i could be wrong ) bvut one of the things from the patriot act we were sold was that there would be checks and balances for these warrants . it turns ouy 98 % of fisa warrants are approved

now what has trump called on the doj to do to protect him ?

skinsdad62 said:

the way it came off it did but that s ok its text

trump was never called a racist until he ran for president , he supported lots of organizations supported by minorites and won several awards for his work in there communities

i support the right for them to kneel but i consider it disrespectful

i believe it because its the truth and i have made it work in my life

well i am sorry about the wall , it isnt racist to want it and there are several reasons to have it . but we also have to fix other loopholes

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That is not true at all. He was called out for racism publicly several times before running. Maybe hes just racist...

Just because it worked for you (a white male i think?) doesnt mean it would work for everybody or that a black man or woman would not be held back from that same success or at least have a harder time achieving it.

I dont know if its AUTOMATICALLY racist to want it but there are racist reasons to want it. And the non racist reasons for it are pretty weak.

gkekoa said:

Affirmative action exists because of all the racism that existed towards minorities. The problem with affirmative action though is it tries to solve a perceived problem (racism) by being literally racist.

As for white privilege, it is a myth. The privilege comes from parenting, schooling, culture, and respect for the law...not pigmentation.

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I dont have a strong affirmative action opinion. That said, it is an attempted solution to a very real problem.

White privilege is not a myth. And the fact you realize that one race is benefitting more than another from schooling culture and respect from the law kind of proves that.

gkekoa said:

Wow...nothing has changed over the last 45 years.

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This Is the Woman President Trump Wants to Be the First Female African-American Marine General

He dated a black woman. He hangs with black celebrities. Hell, you will have a hard time getting black people that know him to say he is racist. One man said, “forget about black friends. He has no friends at all.” He is a bus8nessman. He uses people to further himself and his agenda. He doesn’t care about race.

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Hes not a nazi or trying to bring back slavery. But he is a racist.

skinsdad62 said:

not anywhere near HRC

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Sharkinva said:

Always whatabout Hillary/Obama.

So here is a serious question, Would you trust Donald J Trump with

1. Your money to invest
2. Your Daughter
3. The life of your son or daughter??

If you can answer yes to all three honestly then roll with it. If you come back with some sort of dodge, but still trust him with the country... what does that say?

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1. No
2. HELL no
3. HELL no

skinsdad62 said:

i would also fear she would try to rig an election using the FBI , CIA and DOJ . i fear she would weaponize depts of govt to quash her opponents

i also fear she wouldnt keep our secrets safe and the enemy would take huge advantage of this because she values "convenience " over security

also fear she would enrich herself and her husband and be beholden to foriegn powers in exchange for "contributions "

in a few days more texts will come out and the total fisa warrant will come out and we will see just how corrupt obamas DOJ and FBI reallly were at the top and ebb will somehow not get the message that they did shady stuff

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So basically you don't care about any of that stuff cuz you only care about it for hillary not for trump.

Which is my point all along. A large part of this country just wants to own the other side. They dont give a shit about the issues or what will help this country or about other people or about morals. They only care about taking down the other side.

skinsdad62 said:

shark lets take stock on what has happened here

lynch strzok page roesnstien mccabe muellar brennan comey and now weissman were involved in clearing HRC of mishandling classified information involving her illegal server .

now i dont know what you did in the marines but i have handled classified documents and have been trained in their use and care . most americans have not and what she did should have gotten her a jail sentence . now i can go conspiracy theory on you but i am not suffice it to say there are reason she had the server which i have stated in pages above and why she deleted 30 grand emails but that isnt what needs to be answered for here

what these guys did is used a phony dossier paid for by HRC , ( no the dossier wasnt in existence during the REP primary ) and( no poppadappolis wasnt enough ) to investigate something that ISNT a crime hence either as an straight up FBI investigation or a counterintelligence investigation , the FBI cant just open up an investigation to find a crime .

they mislead a fisa judge to obtain a warrant to spy on trump which they did with no evidence of a crime the spy i have named above which you nor ebb responded too

there isnt any cherry pick parts of the warrant shark because as you know some of this warrant has been released .already but that wasnt enough for some . now they whole thing unredacted is being released so the public can see it for themselves ( along with a butt ton of 302 's )

we now know that the FBI and the CIA have been leaking stuff to the press and then using the leaked information to help support fisa warrants in other cases by saying " see the press is reporting it " this has come out in the last few weeks and originated from eric holders time as AG

these text show the bias and show they intended to reverse the will of the people in a fair election based on our laws

if i am correct fisa courts havent been around before 911 ( i could be wrong ) bvut one of the things from the patriot act we were sold was that there would be checks and balances for these warrants . it turns ouy 98 % of fisa warrants are approved

now what has trump called on the doj to do to protect him ?

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So again what about Hillary.

1. They are planning to unredact 20 pages out of 412 pages of the FISA warrant. If that aint cherry picking for effect, I dont know what is.

2. You are correct FISA warrants did not exist before 9/11. But since they have existed, they have never even partially been released to the public. And the reason for that is to protect procedure as well as assets. But now that Donny is in the crosshairs, we need limited transparency.

3. He has constantly been bemoaning how the DOJ should really be investigating Hillary and not any possible wrong doing he or his camp has done.

4. Muellers probe has leaked exactly ZERO. Which is what pisses Trump off the most. Because until Mueller does what he does, Trump has no idea its coming.

5. Trump vilifying Jeff Sessions for recusing himself is a direct request for Sessions to end the Russia Probe. And again he is more pissed that he cant fire Sessions or Mueller because either move WOULD bring about impeachment.


Trump also ordered the Justice Department to release text messages from a number of the key players in the Russia investigation "without redaction" -- including Ohr, Strzok, Lisa Page, former FBI Director James Comey and former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.

The 21 pages only make up a small part of the 412 pages of FISA applications and warrants related to Page released by the FBI earlier this year in heavily redacted format. The June 2017 application was the last of four filed by the Justice Department in support of FISA court orders allowing the monitoring of Page for nearly a year.

Trump orders feds to declassify key FISA documents, text messages in FBI Russia probe

ehb5 said:

I dont have a strong affirmative action opinion. That said, it is an attempted solution to a very real problem.

White privilege is not a myth. And the fact you realize that one race is benefitting more than another from schooling culture and respect from the law kind of proves that.

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Would i be a dick to point out that CULTURE which he seems to harp on is just another code word.

Or the fact that Blacks in the US in general were stripped of their culture when they were brought here in chains. And the resulting culture he finds so substandard is a direct result of a concerted 200+ year effort to ensure that black CULTURE was eradicated in this country. .

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So basically you don't care about any of that stuff cuz you only care about it for hillary not for trump.

Which is my point all along. A large part of this country just wants to own the other side. They dont give a shit about the issues or what will help this country or about other people or about morals. They only care about taking down the other side.

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They committed huge crimes dude , sorry but you can’t do that