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Penn State was the better team IMO.

based on what?

Final rankings

1. Nebraska beat Colorado, beat Miami Fl,
2. Penn State
3. Colorado 11-1 lost to nebraska,
4. Florida State 10-1-1 beat #7 Florida, lost #6 Miami FL
5. Alabama beat #14 Ohio State
6. Miami Florida beat #3 Florida State, beat #23 Boston College. lost to Nebraska
7. Florida lost
8. Texas A&M
9. Auburn
10. Utah
11. Oregon
12. Michigan
13. USC
14. Ohio State
15. Virginia
16. Colorado State
17. NC State
18. BYu
19. K State lost #1 Nebraska
20. Arizona
21. Wash State
22. Tennessee
23. Boston College
24. Miss State
25. Texas


Penn State beat bowl teams

8-4 Michigan beat #16 ranked Colorado State
9-4 Ohio State lost to #5 ranked Alabama in Bowl game
8-3-1 USC beat unranked Texas tech in bowl game
9-4 Oregon lost Penn State won in the Rose Bowl
7-5 Illinois beat unranked virginia tech in bowl game

Other teams
0-11 Michigan State
2-9 Temple
3-8 Minnesota
4-6-1 Northwestern
5-5-1 Iowa
5-5-1 Rutgers
6-5 Indiana

Penn State beat 6 teams with winning records
Penn State beat only one team that lost 3 games, all other wins were against teams that lost 4 or more games
Penn State played 5 teams that went bowling
Penn State opponents went 3-2 in bowl games
Penn State beat no teams in the final AP top 10
Penn State opponents went 66-69-4

Nebraska beat bowl teams

7-6 West Virginia lost to unranked south carolina
6-6 texas Tech lost to #13 USC
10-2 Miami Fl Nebraska beat Miami on the Home Field in the Orange Bowl. Miami had won 58 straight home field games until Nebraska beat them
6-6 Oklahoma lost #18 BYU
9-3 K State lost #23 Boston College
11-1 Colorado won unranked Notre Dame

Other teams
0-10-1 Iowa State
3-7-1 Oklahoma State
3-8-1 Missouri
5-6 UCLA
6-5 Kansas
6-5 Pacific
6-6 Wyoming

Nebraska played 6 teams with winning records,
Nebraska handed one team their only loss and another team only their 2nd loss
Nebraska played 6 teams that went bowling
Nebraska beat two teams in the Final AP Top 10
Nebraska opponents went 78-71-3.

Rush Offense
1. Nebraska 340 yds
6. Penn State 250.9 yds


Passing Offense
12. Penn State 269.3
92. Nebraska 57.1

Offensively, Penn State looks great on paper. Nebraska did face six other teams with passing offenses ranked in the top 50.

Nebraska opponents passing offense
8. Wyoming lost 42-32
11. Pacific lost 70-21
19. Miami Florida lost 24-17
28. Kansas State lost 17-6
45. West Virginia lost 31-0
50. Colorado lost 24-7

Nebraska beat passing teams by 7 or more points

Total Offense

1. Penn State
3. Colorado lost to Nebraska
5. Nebraska
10. Wyoming lost to Nebraska
15. Miami Fl lost to Nebraska
17. Michigan Lost to Penn State
27. Iowa Lost to Penn State
28. Minnesota Lost to Penn State
31. Pacific lost to Nebraska
32. UCLA lost to nebraska
33. USC Lost to Penn State

Scoring Offense
1. Penn State
6. Nebraska
7. Colorado lost to nebraska
19. Miami Florida lost to nebraska
32. Kansas lost to nebraska
33. Iowa lost to Penn State
34. Michigan lost to Penn State
35. Kansas State lost to nebraska
38. Oregon lost to Penn State

Scoring Offense Nebraska played a lot better offenses than Penn State did. Nebraska played two top 20 scoring offenses, Penn State played ZERO top 20 offenses.

Rushing Defense
4. Nebraska
7. Miami Fl lost to Nebraska
15. Colorado lost to Nebraska
46. Oklahoma lost to Nebraska
48. Penn State

OK, if the #7, #15, and #46 rush defenses did not stop Nebraska why would the #48 one do it?

Pass Efficiency defense
1. Miami Fl lost to Nebraska
3. Texas Tech lost to Nebraska
7. K State lost to Nebraska
10. Nebraska
14. Oregon lost to Penn State
15. Michigan State lost to Penn State
66. Penn State

hmmm, it sort of looks like Penn State might have had a bad defense and the opponents that they played were mostly average at best

Total Defense
1. Miami lost to Nebraska
4. Nebraska
9. Illinois lost to Penn State Illinois lost 35-31
12. Oklahoma lost to Nebraska
15. Ohio State lost to Penn State
22. Texas Tech lost to nebraska
23. K State lost to Nebraska
26. Oregon lost to Penn State
40. Colorado lost to Nebraska
41. West Virginia lost to nebraska
70. Penn State

Nebraska played 6 top 50 defenses beat them all, Penn State played 3.
 

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based on what?

Final rankings

1. Nebraska beat Colorado, beat Miami Fl,
2. Penn State
3. Colorado 11-1 lost to nebraska,
4. Florida State 10-1-1 beat #7 Florida, lost #6 Miami FL
5. Alabama beat #14 Ohio State
6. Miami Florida beat #3 Florida State, beat #23 Boston College. lost to Nebraska
7. Florida lost
8. Texas A&M
9. Auburn
10. Utah
11. Oregon
12. Michigan
13. USC
14. Ohio State
15. Virginia
16. Colorado State
17. NC State
18. BYu
19. K State lost #1 Nebraska
20. Arizona
21. Wash State
22. Tennessee
23. Boston College
24. Miss State
25. Texas


Penn State beat bowl teams

8-4 Michigan beat #16 ranked Colorado State
9-4 Ohio State lost to #5 ranked Alabama in Bowl game
8-3-1 USC beat unranked Texas tech in bowl game
9-4 Oregon lost Penn State won in the Rose Bowl
7-5 Illinois beat unranked virginia tech in bowl game

Other teams
0-11 Michigan State
2-9 Temple
3-8 Minnesota
4-6-1 Northwestern
5-5-1 Iowa
5-5-1 Rutgers
6-5 Indiana

Penn State beat 6 teams with winning records
Penn State beat only one team that lost 3 games, all other wins were against teams that lost 4 or more games
Penn State played 5 teams that went bowling
Penn State opponents went 3-2 in bowl games
Penn State beat no teams in the final AP top 10
Penn State opponents went 66-69-4

Nebraska beat bowl teams

7-6 West Virginia lost to unranked south carolina
6-6 texas Tech lost to #13 USC
10-2 Miami Fl Nebraska beat Miami on the Home Field in the Orange Bowl. Miami had won 58 straight home field games until Nebraska beat them
6-6 Oklahoma lost #18 BYU
9-3 K State lost #23 Boston College
11-1 Colorado won unranked Notre Dame

Other teams
0-10-1 Iowa State
3-7-1 Oklahoma State
3-8-1 Missouri
5-6 UCLA
6-5 Kansas
6-5 Pacific
6-6 Wyoming

Nebraska played 6 teams with winning records,
Nebraska handed one team their only loss and another team only their 2nd loss
Nebraska played 6 teams that went bowling
Nebraska beat two teams in the Final AP Top 10
Nebraska opponents went 78-71-3.

Rush Offense
1. Nebraska 340 yds
6. Penn State 250.9 yds


Passing Offense
12. Penn State 269.3
92. Nebraska 57.1

Offensively, Penn State looks great on paper. Nebraska did face six other teams with passing offenses ranked in the top 50.

Nebraska opponents passing offense
8. Wyoming lost 42-32
11. Pacific lost 70-21
19. Miami Florida lost 24-17
28. Kansas State lost 17-6
45. West Virginia lost 31-0
50. Colorado lost 24-7

Nebraska beat passing teams by 7 or more points

Total Offense

1. Penn State
3. Colorado lost to Nebraska
5. Nebraska
10. Wyoming lost to Nebraska
15. Miami Fl lost to Nebraska
17. Michigan Lost to Penn State
27. Iowa Lost to Penn State
28. Minnesota Lost to Penn State
31. Pacific lost to Nebraska
32. UCLA lost to nebraska
33. USC Lost to Penn State

Scoring Offense
1. Penn State
6. Nebraska
7. Colorado lost to nebraska
19. Miami Florida lost to nebraska
32. Kansas lost to nebraska
33. Iowa lost to Penn State
34. Michigan lost to Penn State
35. Kansas State lost to nebraska
38. Oregon lost to Penn State

Scoring Offense Nebraska played a lot better offenses than Penn State did. Nebraska played two top 20 scoring offenses, Penn State played ZERO top 20 offenses.

Rushing Defense
4. Nebraska
7. Miami Fl lost to Nebraska
15. Colorado lost to Nebraska
46. Oklahoma lost to Nebraska
48. Penn State

OK, if the #7, #15, and #46 rush defenses did not stop Nebraska why would the #48 one do it?

Pass Efficiency defense
1. Miami Fl lost to Nebraska
3. Texas Tech lost to Nebraska
7. K State lost to Nebraska
10. Nebraska
14. Oregon lost to Penn State
15. Michigan State lost to Penn State
66. Penn State

hmmm, it sort of looks like Penn State might have had a bad defense and the opponents that they played were mostly average at best

Total Defense
1. Miami lost to Nebraska
4. Nebraska
9. Illinois lost to Penn State Illinois lost 35-31
12. Oklahoma lost to Nebraska
15. Ohio State lost to Penn State
22. Texas Tech lost to nebraska
23. K State lost to Nebraska
26. Oregon lost to Penn State
40. Colorado lost to Nebraska
41. West Virginia lost to nebraska
70. Penn State

Nebraska played 6 top 50 defenses beat them all, Penn State played 3.

If everyone just says Nebraska is the greatest team in the 1990's, will you stop posting this non-sense?

IT WAS 20+ YEARS AGO. Who cares.
 

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My B1G Power Rankings after Week 4

1. Penn State (4-0, 1-0) - Last Week: 1 -With under two minutes left, the Nittany Lions needed a touchdown to win vs a defense that had done great job doing so all four quarters. They got that touchdown with no time left on the clock. Barkley is a beast of a running back.

2. Michigan (4-0, 1-0)
- Last Week: 3 - The Wolverines have found themselves a starting QB in O'Korn. I know struggling against Purdue isn't a feat to rush the field, but Purdue has looked pretty good so far. Plus, Michigan is one of two teams to be 4-0 with a conference win.

3. Wisconsin (3-0)- Last Week: 2 -The Badgers had a week off this week. They haven't really faced a team that could test them, but they also have played like it as well. We will see how they do against a NW team that has has failed to reach expectations.

4. Ohio State (3-1, 1-0) - Last Week: 4 - The Buckeyes dominated UNLV. I would have dropped them down if they didn't. The big test they have had, they didn't look good. But they are right in the mix with teams that I have above them with Rutgers and Maryland as their next two games.

5. Iowa (3-1, 0-1)[/B] - Last Week: 6 -Hawkeyes was one play away from having another upset over a Top 5 team at Kinnick Staduim. Iowa's offense struggled pretty much the entire game. Anyone looking at stats would say the defense got destroyed. Anybody watched the game would say the defense kept them in the game.

6. Minnesota (3-0) - Last Week: 8 -The Gophers had the week off and took advantage over a few losses from some B1G teams Minnesota has looked good the last two games, but they aren't that good of opponents. They are still undefeated.

7. Michigan State (2-1) - Last Week: 9 -End of a rivalry ends with the Spartans hanging their heads. Notre Dame had a 28-7 lead at halftime. However, the Spartans have looked good leading up to this game. With the Hawkeyes coming to town next week, will they get back on track?

9. Indiana (2-1, 0-1) - Last Week: 10 - The Hoosiers hung with the Buckeyes for a good half and ended up getting dominated. They have since dominated Virginia and Georgia Southern. PSU got an emotional win at Kinnick Stadium, could they be hung over when Indiana comes to town?

8. Purdue (2-2, 0-1)- Last Week: 5 -Losing to Purdue or Michigan is not that big of deal. Those are quality opponents compared to teams other B1G teams have faced. Losing to Louisville and Iowa has to cost them. But I still think the Boilermakers are overachieving still.

10. Maryland (2-1) - Last Week: 7 - The Terps have been the underdog story everyone was rooting for, it seemed. They beat Texas in Austin and totally dominated their FCS opponent. However, UCF totally dominated them today. Knights led 14-3 at halftime and outscored the Terps 24-7 in the 2nd half.

11. Northwestern (2-1)- Last Week: 11 -The Wildcats had a week off and last week they dominated the Wildcats. However, they got dominated by Duke and looked didn't look very good against Nevada. Could Justin Jackson have a big game at Camp Randall next week?

12. Nebraska (2-2, 1-0) - Last Week: 12 - The Huskers had the longest active losing streak in the B1G until today. They beat the only B1G team who still has 1 win. Could they go from having a 2-game skid to a 2-game W streak when they face Illinois?

13. Illinois (2-1) - Last Week: 13 -The bye week does not help Illinois at all. They have only looked good against WKU and struggled in their win against Ball State. Even though USF is playing very well, they still got dominated.

14. Rutgers (1-3, 0-1) - Last Week: 14 - Rutgers is the only team to not have 2 or more wins. Doesn't look like it will be better next week as they face the Buckeyes.


Duke looks like the second best team in the ACC right now.
 

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If everyone just says Nebraska is the greatest team in the 1990's, will you stop posting this non-sense?

IT WAS 20+ YEARS AGO. Who cares.

I did not even start it. rmilia did. Then Lion=stehsucks who said Penn State was better. I just asked what he/she/it based it upon. I posted some data from the season.

Yet, your panties are wadded up your vajayjay about it. If you make irrational statements that are unsupported, I just might question them.
 

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Who knew Big E was a Hawkeye? Gotta love that HD TV from the 90s.

 

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I wonder if Long would have gotten Heisman over Bo Jackson if he had a good game there? IDK. All I hear from are Iowa fans, but it was the closest race for around 20 years.

I also wonder how true the Harmon Rose Bowl conspiracy theory is true?
 

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I did not even start it. rmilia did. Then Lion=stehsucks who said Penn State was better. I just asked what he/she/it based it upon. I posted some data from the season.

Yet, your panties are wadded up your vajayjay about it. If you make irrational statements that are unsupported, I just might question them.

1994 PSU team would've wiped the floor with NU.
 

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1994 PSU team would've wiped the floor with NU.

Here we go. Based on nothing but your opinion. My opinion agrees with RMilia, it would have been a good game.

Total Offense
#1 Penn State
#5 Nebraska

Total Defense
#4 Nebraska
#70 Penn State

Nebraska would have scored on that 70th ranked Penn State defense, the question is whether the Nebraska defense could have stopped the high powered Penn State offense. Nebraska's defense did stop three other Top 15 offenses.

The Big 8 was 4-2 against the B1G.

Iowa beat doormat Iowa State and illinois beat doormat Missouri.

Meanwhile, Colorado beat Wisconsin and Michigan, Kansas beat doormat Michigan State, and K State beat doormat Minnesota.

Notre Dame beat Northwestern, Purdue, and Michigan State and was trounced by Colorado in the bowl game.

As usual, I don't want facts to get in the way of the opinions.
 

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Who has the best defense in the B1G? Minnesota, Wisconsin, or Penn State?
 

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Michigan
Ohio St
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those teams

I am not super impressed with their defenses. To be honest, I don't think Minnesota's is either, but they got the stats. Penn State's and Wisconsin's I am though.
 

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I am not super impressed with their defenses. To be honest, I don't think Minnesota's is either, but they got the stats. Penn State's and Wisconsin's I am though.
I was impressed by Iowa's vs. PSU. Have they been consistent this year?
 

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I was impressed by Iowa's vs. PSU. Have they been consistent this year?

Dominated Jared Allen and Wyoming.

ISU's RB David Montgomery had their number, like Barkley did. He came out of nowhere. We were expecting WR Lazard to tear apart Iowa's weak DBs.

North Texas surprised Iowa by having speed in their first drive, the NT's 2nd scoring drive was mostly due to some of Iowa's stupid penalties (pass interference and late hit out of bounds), and after that, Iowa contained them pretty good.

and then Penn State.

Iowa's front 7 are probably some of the best in the country. Jewell could possibly be the best LB in the country. Iowa's DBs are inexperience. Only real test this season is ISU and ISU did better. That is why I expect Iowa to beat Wisconsin and struggle vs Purdue.
 

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Who has the best defense in the B1G? Minnesota, Wisconsin, or Penn State?

We put those defensive numbers up on a OOC slate that would make Baylor blush at how soft it is.
 

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Ot may sound a bit homerish, but Wisconsin is unscored upon in the second half. Points to 2 things. Good adjustments and depth since 2nd and 3rd string were getting playing time.
 
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