For You Stymie

[Sportster 72]

17. Washington

Bengals get: 1-17, 4-123
Washington gets: 2-41, 3-73, QB AJ McCarron

I already said that the Bengals don't make many trades, but given the market for tall quarterbacks who have shown some moderate semblance of competence in small samples (see: Glennon, Mike), it might behoove the Bengals to explore their trade options for McCarron. Here, they move up and get an additional first-round pick as part of a deal which values their backup quarterback as roughly equivalent to a late second-round pick on the traditional Johnson depth chart.

McCarron is entering the final year of his rookie deal, which seems like a bad fit given that Washington might lose Kirk Cousins after this season, and he'll be a restricted free agent next offseason. The extra year of cost control provides Washington with leverage as it attempts to negotiate a deal with Cousins, and if it's unable to come to terms with their incumbent on an extension, McCarron could get the first crack at replacing him. Jay Gruden left Cincinnati just before McCarron arrived, but you would figure Gruden might be able to work out something and get a reliable scouting report on the Alabama product from former boss Marvin Lewis.

ESPN is looking out for you buddy.

 

[gkekoa]

Ummm...hell no

 

[skinsdad62]

So we get a 2nd. A 3rd and AJ for our 17th and the right to trade up and get Rosen

 

[ehb5]

Oh no

 

[Sportster 72]

This was from an article by Bill Barnwell laying out trade prospects for every team. This is what he laid out at pick number 17. At pick number 2 he had the 49ers trading Hoyer and the No. 2 overall to the Skins for Cousins and some other picks.

I posted the one above because it is akin to what Sty has wanted.

 

[Sharkinva]

But we get AJ... that alone is worth the 17th. The rest is just gravy.

 

[Breed]

So we get a 2nd. A 3rd and AJ for our 17th and the right to trade up and get Rosen

You mean trade up to get Darnold who is a better QB than Rosen.

 

[Sharkinva]

You mean trade up to get Darnold who is a better QB than Rosen.

Again, why would we need Darnold or Rosen... we would already have AJ.

 

[Breed]

Again, why would we need Darnold or Rosen... we would already have AJ.

That's Stymiee's Wile E Coyote, Super Genius plan.

My Wile E Coyote, Super Genius plan involves the Skins getting Sam Darnold.

 

[Skin'EmAll]

I attempted to justify this several times and it was just -- STUPID.

 

[Sharkinva]

That's Stymiee's Wile E Coyote, Super Genius plan.

My Wile E Coyote, Super Genius plan involves the Skins getting Sam Darnold.

Unless we suck badly this year, i think any plan that involves Darnold is likely to cost us upwards of Rg3 levels in compensation. Remember, we took it Bridgette Powers style to move up four spots to #2, I can only shudder at what it will cost to move from say #10 to #1.... and this assumes we are 7-9 kind of bad. Because I dont think there is going to be another slew of 7-9 teams this year.

 

[skinsdad62]

You mean trade up to get Darnold who is a better QB than Rosen.

I think darnold is the top pick at qb but there are 4?top qbs coming outv

 

[gkekoa]

Honestly, if we dont resign KC, I hope we tank the entire season and get the #1 next season.

 

[Sportster 72]

You are expecting Darnold to come out after his sophomore year?

 

[Stymietee]

17. Washington

Bengals get: 1-17, 4-123
Washington gets: 2-41, 3-73, QB AJ McCarron

I already said thmat the Bengals don't make many tradesCousinmarket for tall quarterbacks who have shown some moderate semblance of competence in small samples (see: Glennon, Mike), it might behoove the Bengals to explore their trade options for McCarron. Here, they move up and get an additional first-round pick as part of a deal which values their backup quarterback as roughly equivalent to a late second-round pick on the traditional Johnson depth chart.

McCarron is entering the final year of his rookie deal, which seems like a bad fit given that Washington might lose Kirk Cousins after this season, and he'll be a restricted free agent next offseason. The extra year of cost control provides Washington with leverage as it attempts to negotiate a deal with Cousins, and if it's unable to come to terms with their incumbent on an extension, McCarron could get the first crack at replacing him. Jay Gruden left Cincinnati just before McCarron arrived, but you would figure Gruden might be able to work out something and get a reliable scouting report on the Alabama product from former boss Marvin Lewis.

ESPN is looking out for you buddy.

Remember my plan was congintent upon trading Kirk to Cleveland first, then parlaying a second and a conditional 4th forAJ. Good article though, at least someone' s thinking about how badly the Cousins situation seems headed towards.

 

[Stymietee]

That's Stymiee's Wile E Coyote, Super Genius plan.

My Wile E Coyote, Super Genius plan involves the Skins getting Sam Darnold.

Here's the thing about getting Darnold, it's going to take a whole lot of planning and scheming against our team to be in position to get him, and that's working on the assumption that he comes out next year. Sounds a whole lot like the thinking of Wiz fans when they were putting K. Durant on their shopping list.

 

[Sportster 72]

Yes. I am also not endorsing, opposing or any other thing. I just put this here because Sty has made a point of thinking bringing AJ here as a possible solution to all our QB possibilities.

Personally I would like to see Cousins here for the next 5-7 years ... at least. Time will tell. Like dad I have not written off the possibility. But Sty is not a lone wolf out there.

 

[Stymietee]

I've said it on many occasions, my preference would be in resigning Kirk. To me that time was after the 2015 season. There is still a small chance of getting him signed but even that (no matter the numbers) would be seen as an embarrassment to the front office because they are chiefly responsible for jacking up the price for his services. I honestly believed that the window had closed on keeping Kirk then, so I started formulating plans for his departure. We can only hope that Bruce and Dan are doing the same thing even if they have convinced themselves that signing Kirk rests solely with their desire to do so. There is the real possibility that Kirk may not want to play here any longer.

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

kirk will get signed

 

[Stymietee]

kirk will get signed

I totally and irrevocably agree with you Coach.......the question still remains, signed by which team?