What are your opinions of this draft?

[jeffro151]

I had 8th pick in a 10 man league
1-Jamaal Charles, RB
2-Steven Jackson, RB
3- Jimmy Graham, TE
4- Wes Welker, WR
5- Danny Amendola, WR
6- RGIII, QB
7- Torrey Smith, WR
8- DeAngelo Williams, RB
9- Seahawks, D/ST
10- Eli Manning, QB
11- Lance Moore, WR
12- Pierre Thomas, RB
13- Justin Tucker, K
14- Patriots, D/ST
15- Brandon Pettigrew, TE
16- Michael Bush, RB

 

[MilkSpiller22]

dont love your WR, dont love your RB depth, so i think you have an average team at best...

 

[tlance]

I had 8th pick in a 10 man league
1-Jamaal Charles, RB
2-Steven Jackson, RB
3- Jimmy Graham, TE
4- Wes Welker, WR
5- Danny Amendola, WR
6- RGIII, QB
7- Torrey Smith, WR
8- DeAngelo Williams, RB
9- Seahawks, D/ST
10- Eli Manning, QB
11- Lance Moore, WR
12- Pierre Thomas, RB
13- Justin Tucker, K
14- Patriots, D/ST
15- Brandon Pettigrew, TE
16- Michael Bush, RB

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All in all, I think you had a good start and got a few good values in the middle, but I have to agree with Milk Spiller. I love the first 3 picks and I also love RG3 in the 6th. Many are divided on Amendola. I think his upside is easily worth a round 5 pick, but you need to be prepared for him to miss time. I also think you will deeply regret the Welker pick in about 2 months.

RB depth is vital. Those picks spent on a back-up defense and TE are pretty much wasted. You will never start Pettigrew aside from Graham's bye week, so why roster him? You can easily find a TE equal or better when the bye comes closer. Same with the D. The Seahawks are elite. There aren't many weeks where you will bench them, so why draft another?

 

[TREFF]

Pretty much in agreement with the others..you have great RB'S especially going from #8. Your probably set at QB especially with Eli for when RGIII misses tine (he will). But your WR'S are gonna hurt you. Welker wasn't a good #1when he was Brady's top target..he won't be any better as Peyton's second or third. Amendola is a walking injury. And there's a big questiin as to what Torrey Smith can do without a guy like Boldin on the opposite side.

I'd give ya a C+ - B- on this one..solid team with an obvious weakness

 

[Sox33OSU]

Personally I'm a big fan of this team.

For starters, I love Torrey Smith as a WR3 if that's what he ends up being for you. He's a burner, for sure, and without Boldin I think he could really emerge (although his first 2 years were great for a WR3). Amendola is an injury risk, but you've gotta love the odds of him being a PPR monster, especially early on. The good news is, if he gets hurt, WR is probably the one position where you are most likely to find a stud UFA by week 3-4 anyhow, so I think you're covered. Welker may be a bit out of top-flight WR1 territory, but Manning has always like working with his slot guys. Remember what he did with Austin Collie in Indy when he was healthy? He also led the league in completion % to his slot WRs in 2012, so I think he will be serviceable at worst.

Love the RB depth. I think Charles could have a MONSTER year under Reid for you, especially if this is PPR. Jackson could also have a great year in terms of TDs (I easily see 14+ with that offense). He's also an underrated pass-catcher at the position. Michael Bush is terrific because you just know Forte is gonna miss some time, and he's also a TD vulture who can start in a pinch of you really need him, even if Forte is hurt.

Seattle's D speaks for itself, as does Jimmy Graham at TE. A+ there.

If you can drop Eli and add Tannehill if he's still there, I would. Tanny has some favorable matchups this year both in and out of the division.

Overall, for having the 8th pick out of 10, I like it. B+ if Amendola gets injured, A if he stays healthy.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

i do think 10 team snake draft is unfair for the later first round drafters... very unfair...

 

[SmokingMonkey]

i do think 10 team snake draft is unfair for the later first round drafters... very unfair...

depends on the year. This year, I'd rather be at the end of the 1st than the beginning. In other years, just the opposite. If you went RB-RB at the end of the 1st round last year, good chance your team wouldnt look that great. Now, RB-RB at the end of the 1st looks pretty good in a 10 team league.

 

[wilwhite]

Nice team for PPR, otherwise it's competitive but not amazing.

After the first two RBs it gets sketchy, especially in a 10-team league. If the league isn't PPR and has a flex, you might be in trouble, and you're in trouble anyway if Charles or SJAX have any problems.

 

[TKOSpikes]

Strangely, I'm in disagreement with the board, for the most part.

RG3 and Eli can take you far, as long as you don't have to depend on Eli, and for the round value... I like.
Charles and SJax are a very good 1-2 punch. I'm not as high on JC as others, but I like SJ in 2013... I like.
Welker and Amendola are extremely underrated by most, and although aren't monsters like Calvin and the boys, they'll get you points every single week. You didn't say PPR so I can't assume it, but if so, then big bonus... I like. Smith is a hit or miss each week, high highs and low lows.
Graham in round 3 in a 10-teamer seems weird to me, but great grab, great... I love.
K/DST - Not big on the rounds you chose them in, even if it is to get the Seahawks... I don't like.
RB Depth is (as noted) the opposite... shallow. If you have to go to DeAngelo and Thomas, oh boy... I don't like.
WR Depth is quality in Lance, and I'd probably start him over Smith most weeks, but I'd look for more... I'm okay with.

and...

Those picks spent on a back-up defense and TE are pretty much wasted. You will never start Pettigrew aside from Graham's bye week, so why roster him? You can easily find a TE equal or better when the bye comes closer. Same with the D. The Seahawks are elite. There aren't many weeks where you will bench them, so why draft another?

...I agree.

and...

Welker wasn't a good #1when he was Brady's top target

... I disagree.

and...

Nice team for PPR, otherwise it's competitive but not amazing.

...agree, but would insert Great (for Nice).

 

[Skin'EmAll]

I had 8th pick in a 10 man league
1-Jamaal Charles, RB
2-Steven Jackson, RB
3- Jimmy Graham, TE
4- Wes Welker, WR
5- Danny Amendola, WR
6- RGIII, QB
7- Torrey Smith, WR
8- DeAngelo Williams, RB
9- Seahawks, D/ST
10- Eli Manning, QB
11- Lance Moore, WR
12- Pierre Thomas, RB
13- Justin Tucker, K
14- Patriots, D/ST
15- Brandon Pettigrew, TE
16- Michael Bush, RB

Since I'm in a PPR league, I'm judging from that standpoint so, I'd give it a C+.
A injury to Charles or Jackson even for a few games could ruin your season. That's really my only concern, your lack of depth there. While your WR situation isn't top tier, the guys you do have can certainly produce some huge games here and there.

I'd like to see your week 1 match up

 

[ckhokie]

People who are complaining about your WRs are looking past the fact that you have Jimmy G at TE, who puts up WR numbers from a spot where (now that Gronk and Hernandez are out) maybe only 2 guys in the league will. You're basically getting free points here.

Lance Moore occasionally puts up some decent numbers, and if it turns out to be that big of an issue, it's not like you can't move a RB. People ALWAYS need RBs.

I think you have a fine team, especially for picking 8th.

 

[TKOSpikes]

Three year average in my money league, which is standard scoring, Welker is 3rd among all receivers at 175 points, behind Calvin (215) and Roddy (188).

2012: 12th at 162 (Roddy was 10th at 169)
2011: 3rd at 204 (Larry was 5th at 181)
2010: 23rd at 121 (okay, but ironically had 7 TD's)
2009: 12th at 152 (only 4 TD's)
2008: 17th at 127 (without Brady)
2007: 10th at 159 (Roddy was 12 at 145)

It's not sexy, but Welker gets points every week for the most part and with a good surrounding cast (and as I've said in my WR Rankings), he can be a border line #1 that your not crazy about, but works.

...Amendola seems to be a poor man's Welker, now with the man who "made" Welker and injury is his only concern.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Yes graham is a great 3rd round pick... best pick of his draft by far... but welker is going to fight with thomas and decker to get catches... Peyton manning is a year older and he does not have as much to prove as he did last year, so i predict that the team runs more than they did last year even if hillman is the number one... BTW hillman is one of my biggest sleepers this season... so welker wont even be the teams #1 so having him be your fantasy one is not great... Ammendola might become the next welker for the patriots but Brady has been falling the last couple of seasons and the patriots drafted those 2 rookie WR that they seem to like, it will be a fight to see who becomes brady's favorite target, to assume it will be amendola is not the best way to go... so the top 2 WR are both question marks(even if they are not big question marks) torey smith is a very good WR3, and your WR depth is decent...

The good news is that you dont win the league on draft day and your team is not bad enough to lose on draft day... You also did not draft any potential sleepers, which i am never a fan of... but i am sure there are some available... maybe a lacey or a hillman...

 

[TKOSpikes]

but welker is going to fight with thomas and decker to get catches...

A common thought, but actually the 85 targets to Tamme, the 58 targets to Dreessen and the 58 targets to Stokely can easily be turned into 100 for Welker....and I'm being generous.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

A common thought, but actually the 85 targets to Tamme, the 58 targets to Dreessen and the 58 targets to Stokely can easily be turned into 100 for Welker....and I'm being generous.

Yes, if they never use their TE... And i guarantee that they will run the ball more often this season than last... Manning is getting older, and now he does not have to prove to the league that he is back... Last year manning had 400 completions, i would bet money that he will have less completions this season lets say he has 370 completions... He also likes to spread the ball out, so 130 will go to the non big 3(TE, RB, other WRs)... that means 240 will go to the big 3... since thomas is the best he should get the most, and that means that at most welker can get 80 catches(barring any injury). But more realistically around 70 catches... He is still a very good fantasy WR, but he is not a good one... He is still top 20 WR just nowhere near his previous amazingness...

 

[Barilko]

great work with feedback nothing i can add

only why a kicker in 13 i always wait until my last round pick....

 

[Barilko]

You will never start Pettigrew aside from Graham's bye week, so why roster him? You can easily find a TE equal or better when the bye comes closer. Same with the D. The Seahawks are elite. There aren't many weeks where you will bench them, so why draft another?

i couldnt agree any more than i do..there is never a need for a back up D or back up TE unless its a young (projected to be stud Te) in a keeper league

 

[TREFF]

i couldnt agree any more than i do..there is never a need for a back up D or back up TE unless its a young (projected to be stud Te) in a keeper league

not entirely true..if you end up waiting too ling for a strong starting TE, it's not all that bad of an idea to have a second option every week. Not ideal of course, but I've seen it work firsthand

 

[Barilko]

not entirely true..if you end up waiting too ling for a strong starting TE, it's not all that bad of an idea to have a second option every week. Not ideal of course, but I've seen it work firsthand

yes true Treff i should have added that reason....

 

[TKOSpikes]

Yes, if they never use their TE...

Well, I see 103 targets still available for TE usage... and that's with a low projection for 100 on Welker.