Texas vs Oak. 17-20

[romeo212000]

End all, tell all; to only give up 1 run in that situation is a good thing, even before Ortiz stunk it up

Wash's piss poor management saved by incredible talent yet again.

 

[fanman8825]

This is exactly what I'm talking about and you end up bringing Ross in to an even worse situation anyways. This is the reason wash has got to go.

Now I am even more pissed that Ross got us out of this after the damage was already done . I fully understand your frustration with Wash.

 

[jta4437]

Should be 1-1 if done the right way the first time.

There's no way you can assume it would be 1-1 even if he had brought in Ross first

Ross might have pitched different and gave up a hit, you never know

I'm happy with the result, but not the execution

 

[romeo212000]

There's no way you can assume it would be 1-1 even if he had brought in Ross first

Ross might have pitched different and gave up a hit, you never know

I'm happy with the result, but not the execution

Fact is, it was the wrong decision regardless of the results. Wash has yet again failed to put his team in the best position to succeed.

 

[romeo212000]

Now I am even more pissed that Ross got us out of this after the damage was already done . I fully understand your frustration with Wash.

It's exactly the kind of crap I'm always talking about. What more does the FO need to see?

 

[jta4437]

Fact is, it was the wrong decision regardless of the results. Wash has yet again failed to put his team in the best position to succeed.

Last line speaks to that

No matter what the decisions by the manager, to only give up one run = good

How we got to that point because of managerial decisions = bad

 

[jta4437]

Fact is, it was the wrong decision regardless of the results. Wash has yet again failed to put his team in the best position to succeed.

Your statement also makes the assumption that simply by bringing in Ross first it would still be 1-1, we have no way of knowing that, b/c thats not what happened

Only thing that can be debated is the bringing in of Ortiz over Ross, which we all agree was the wrong decision

 

[jta4437]

Tie ballgame

 

[romeo212000]

Last line speaks to that

No matter what the decisions by the manager, to only give up one run = good

How we got to that point because of managerial decisions = bad

Managers should be judged on the quality of the decisions themselves. Not just the results. A decision is good or bad regardless of the results.

 

[bone3421]

alright 2-2

 

[jta4437]

Managers should be judged on the quality of the decisions themselves. Not just the results. A decision is good or bad regardless of the results.

THATS NOT WHAT I'M SAYING, I'M AGREEING WITH YOU!

dear god you can be dense sometimes

 

[fanman8825]

It's exactly the kind of crap I'm always talking about. What more does the FO need to see?

And whats tough, despite this being just one game is that it has two game difference in the loss column either way

 

[romeo212000]

Your statement also makes the assumption that simply by bringing in Ross first it would still be 1-1, we have no way of knowing that, b/c thats not what happened

Only thing that can be debated is the bringing in of Ortiz over Ross, which we all agree was the wrong decision

No. You're assuming I'm basing my opinion on the results. The decision was right or wrong when it was made regardless of the results. That was wrong from the start.

 

[romeo212000]

THATS NOT WHAT I'M SAYING, I'M AGREEING WITH YOU!

dear god you can be dense sometimes

I guess I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. I'm a little fired up right now.

 

[fanman8825]

The last thing we need is another injury.

 

[Hambombs]

Question. Is there anyway Darvish gets his start pushed back to tuesday instead of sunday? Im going to the first game of a 3 game series with the yankees.

 

[jta4437]

No. You're assuming I'm basing my opinion on the results. The decision was right or wrong when it was made regardless of the results. That was wrong from the start.

When you say things like it should be 1-1, you're basing it on the decision and the result,

Your decision = bring Ross in

Result = Ross had a 1-2-3 outing, therefore it should be 1-1 still

TERRIBLE LOGIC

you cannot assume that in a different situation that Ross would've had the same result

I'm not even talking about Wash anymore, I'm talking about false assumptions

 

[romeo212000]

When you say things like it should be 1-1, you're basing it on the decision and the result,

Your decision = bring Ross in

Result = Ross had a 1-2-3 outing, therefore it should be 1-1 still

TERRIBLE LOGIC

you cannot assume that in a different situation that Ross would've had the same result

I'm not even talking about Wash anymore, I'm talking about false assumptions

I get what you're saying and frankly I just posted that out of frustration. Poor decision making regardless yet again by an inept manager.

 

[jta4437]

I guess I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. I'm a little fired up right now.

I'm agreeing that Ortiz was the wrong decision and that Ross should've been the guy

I'm disagreeing that the result would've been different

for all we know Ross grooves the first pitch to smith and its 4-1

 

[bone3421]

come on rangers...........got to run hope we pull this out